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    Post by Mulvy Thu Mar 17, 2016 1:17 am

    Oh and I missed the Broncos warriors game (only one I didnt see), does Gavet look to be playing well generally?
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    Post by RandomSil Thu Mar 17, 2016 1:18 am

    mulvy wrote:
    Already have Walker and Jaifiti and I wish I got Garvey but I think too risky now. Might only play 50 mins if no more concussions and might only get two weeks and the guys I would trade out to get him are making money anyway.

    Oh that is definitely fair an in 5/6 weeks Gavet could earn $100k but that is when he also caps out. (If he jags a big game this could change or averaged more than 35 points.) So do you think potentially $100k is enough to warrant trading him in and then trading him out?
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    Post by Welshy Thu Mar 17, 2016 1:20 am

    Random wrote:

    Oh that is definitely fair an in 5/6 weeks Gavet could earn $100k but that is when he also caps out. (If he jags a big game this could change or averaged more than 35 points.) So do you think potentially $100k is enough to warrant trading him in and then trading him out?

    If you have guys like CWN/Musgrove Bhana/Green/Henry (if dpp swaps available) then 100% yes

    get him in now to avoid paying an extra $20,000 though and thus decreasing his cash making skills
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    Post by RandomSil Thu Mar 17, 2016 1:33 am

    Welshy wrote:
    If you have guys like CWN/Musgrove Bhana/Green/Henry (if dpp swaps available) then 100% yes

    get him in now to avoid paying an extra $20,000 though and thus decreasing his cash making skills

    I have T. Grant and L. Ah Mau that I plan to trade out. (I am trading out 1 this week leaning towards trading out L. Ah Mau.) I want to bring in B. Lawrence, do you think J. Gavet is a better option for one of them and then I can trade in B. Lawrence next week? 

    Okay my options are..

    Option 1:

    This Week - 
    L. Ah Mau -> B. Lawrence ($233 000 spare)

    Next Week -
    T. Grant -> S. Burgess ($30 000 - $35 000 spare)

    Option 2 - 
    This Week - 
    L. Ah Mau -> J. Gavet ($283 000 spare)

    Next Week - 
    T. Grant -> B. Lawrence ($325 000 Spare)

    I could go Gavet + Gun, but I think long term Lawrence will make more cash. Just unsure if I should hop on the Gavet train for a few weeks.
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    Post by Mulvy Thu Mar 17, 2016 1:34 am

    Welshy wrote:

    If you have guys like CWN/Musgrove Bhana/Green/Henry (if dpp swaps available) then 100% yes

    get him in now to avoid paying an extra $20,000 though and thus decreasing his cash making skills

    I think I've already posted I'm thinking of bringing in both BLaw and Gavet for LAM and Bhana leaving 372k. BLaw would be in my 17 for LAM so I think I score maybe 5 points better. Scored 767 last week and ranked exaclty 7000. I can't help but think if I don't spend some of that 372k now my rank will slide significantly, or am I just over-reacting?
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    Post by Mulvy Thu Mar 17, 2016 1:36 am

    Random wrote:

    I have T. Grant and L. Ah Mau that I plan to trade out. (I am trading out 1 this week leaning towards trading out L. Ah Mau.) I want to bring in B. Lawrence, do you think J. Gavet is a better option for one of them and then I can trade in B. Lawrence next week? 

    Okay my options are..

    Option 1:

    This Week - 
    L. Ah Mau -> B. Lawrence ($233 000 spare)

    Next Week -
    T. Grant -> S. Burgess ($30 000 - $35 000 spare)

    Option 2 - 
    This Week - 
    L. Ah Mau -> J. Gavet ($283 000 spare)

    Next Week - 
    T. Grant -> B. Lawrence ($325 000 Spare)

    I could go Gavet + Gun, but I think long term Lawrence will make more cash. Just unsure if I should hop on the Gavet train for a few weeks.

    Me too. If I pick one it will be Blaw, I think there is more upside, who knows with that pack, he could start in the next few weeks.
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    Post by Welshy Thu Mar 17, 2016 2:32 am

    Random wrote:

    I have T. Grant and L. Ah Mau that I plan to trade out. (I am trading out 1 this week leaning towards trading out L. Ah Mau.) I want to bring in B. Lawrence, do you think J. Gavet is a better option for one of them and then I can trade in B. Lawrence next week? 

    Okay my options are..

    Option 1:

    This Week - 
    L. Ah Mau -> B. Lawrence ($233 000 spare)

    Next Week -
    T. Grant -> S. Burgess ($30 000 - $35 000 spare)

    Option 2 - 
    This Week - 
    L. Ah Mau -> J. Gavet ($283 000 spare)

    Next Week - 
    T. Grant -> B. Lawrence ($325 000 Spare)

    I could go Gavet + Gun, but I think long term Lawrence will make more cash. Just unsure if I should hop on the Gavet train for a few weeks.

    I would probably say BLawrence has better job security but Gavet looks like finally getting near to that potential that he has carried over the last 2 years, both should be decent picks going forward

    Okay just done a bit of research

    Gavet's current average 33 he will eventually end up @ $295,000 that is $127,000 made from his current price tag of $168,000

    Personally I don't believe its sustainable for Blaw to average 42 over the season so lets say he goes at the achievable and impressive 38

    He will eventually end up @ $340,000 that is $122,000 made from his current price tag of $218,000

    $340,000 - $295,000 = $45,000 extra based on BLaw averaging 38 and Gavet averaging 33
    $218,000 - $168,000 = $50,000 the extra expense of selecting BLaw over Gavet this week

    pretty much the same expense selecting Blaw or Gavet, Gavet is cheaper now but Blaw should cover that in the long run by returning more cash

    The key will be if one can outperform those 2 averages

    IF BLaw can maintain a 42 average he will end up at around $378,000 and make you an extra ~$40,000

    hopefully that makes sense
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    Post by Liverpool_Bulldog Thu Mar 17, 2016 3:21 am

    Welshy wrote:

    I would probably say BLawrence has better job security but Gavet looks like finally getting near to that potential that he has carried over the last 2 years, both should be decent picks going forward

    Okay just done a bit of research

    Gavet's current average 33 he will eventually end up @ $295,000 that is $127,000 made from his current price tag of $168,000

    Personally I don't believe its sustainable for Blaw to average 42 over the season so lets say he goes at the achievable and impressive 38

    He will eventually end up @ $340,000 that is $122,000 made from his current price tag of $218,000

    $340,000 - $295,000 = $45,000 extra based on BLaw averaging 38 and Gavet averaging 33
    $218,000 - $168,000 = $50,000 the extra expense of selecting BLaw over Gavet this week

    pretty much the same expense selecting Blaw or Gavet, Gavet is cheaper now but Blaw should cover that in the long run by returning more cash

    The key will be if one can outperform those 2 averages

    IF BLaw can maintain a 42 average he will end up at around $378,000 and make you an extra ~$40,000

    hopefully that makes sense

    Ive gone with Gavet simply because the he is included in a full strength Warriors pack and there a few too many question marks around Manlys forward pack and team in general.
    I will most definitely be wrong so everyone go with Lawrence Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad

    Now i wonder if Tim Grant is worth keeping at the moment, something tells me I should be bringing in both Gavet and Lawrence?
    Anyone think Grant and Leiluai > Gavet and Lawrence makes sense
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    Post by badbetter Thu Mar 17, 2016 3:29 am

    There was a fantasy coach who traded in Peats
    Rnd 2 got injured & likely missing for a few weeks
    With Lichaa & Seggy already busted the coach was notably flustered
    Decided to Captain Smith every week & trade in Mybe the freak
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    Post by Liverpool_Bulldog Thu Mar 17, 2016 4:04 am

    badbetter wrote:There was a fantasy coach who traded in Peats
    Rnd 2 got injured & likely missing for a few weeks
    With Lichaa & Seggy already busted the coach was notably flustered
    Decided to Captain Smith every week & trade in Mybe the freak
    o

    Hahaha well done Edgar
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    Post by Liverpool_Bulldog Thu Mar 17, 2016 4:22 am

    By the way @chucky, I hope you are right with your Green prediction and that he won't see the field this week, I can't bear his single digits.
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    Post by Guest Thu Mar 17, 2016 6:04 am

    Pain wrote:What's the top 10 cows so far this year?

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    Post by Warriors Thu Mar 17, 2016 6:26 am

    Welshy wrote:

    Can Blaw maintain 40 points in 40 minutes though? I'd say 35 is more reasonable which is what Gavet is nearing so the price difference counteracts that?

    I disagree Welshy, to me Blaw is a 45 point player and Gavet is a 30 point player. Gavet will be lucky to score 30 this week against the Storm. If Vete performs well when Lisone comes back from injury Gavet aint a sure thing to even stay in the team. Blaw is Manly's best prop and will work up to 45-50 minutes now. If I had to choose I know which one I'd go.
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    Post by Welshy Thu Mar 17, 2016 6:40 am

    Warriors wrote:

    I disagree Welshy, to me Blaw is a 45 point player and Gavet is a 30 point player. Gavet will be lucky to score 30 this week against the Storm. If Vete performs well when Lisone comes back from injury Gavet aint a sure thing to even stay in the team. Blaw is Manly's best prop and will work up to 45-50 minutes now. If I had to choose I know which one I'd go.
    You really think he will be a 45 point player this year? I'd be more than happy to be wrong mate, if I get Graham over Taupau I will be able to afford CWN-BLaw next week as long as BLaw doesn't go above $242,000. Worth it?
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    Post by Liverpool_Bulldog Thu Mar 17, 2016 6:54 am

    If you had to choose one, which would you go?

    Grant > Gavet or
    Green > Scott

    Have already gone Leuluai > BLawrence

    ??
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    Post by Finch Thu Mar 17, 2016 7:16 am

    Liverpool_Bulldog wrote:If you had to choose one, which would you go?

    Grant > Gavet or
    Green > Scott

    Have already gone Leuluai > BLawrence

    ??

    Option #2 IMO
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    Post by Finch Thu Mar 17, 2016 7:18 am

    Welshy wrote:
    You really think he will be a 45 point player this year? I'd be more than happy to be wrong mate, if I get Graham over Taupau I will be able to afford CWN-BLaw next week as long as BLaw doesn't go above $242,000. Worth it?

    I raised this last week or so, and one of the old timers backed me up, GreenMachine maybe?

    2-3 years ago, BLaw was one of the best in the game. His PPM was nearly 1 (IIRC?) and would get you 45 minimum week in, week out.
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    Post by Welshy Thu Mar 17, 2016 7:22 am

    Finch wrote:

    I raised this last week or so, and one of the old timers backed me up, GreenMachine maybe?

    2-3 years ago, BLaw was one of the best in the game. His PPM was nearly 1 (IIRC?) and would get you 45 minimum week in, week out.
    I started with Blaw in 2014 I believe and he was pretty underwhelming, his first year at the Sea Eagles I think it was, I can remember him being a gun back at the Titans though
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    Post by Scouter Thu Mar 17, 2016 7:55 am

    Can someone give me there opinion on these trade options?

    Option 1 (164k remaining)
    Green>Scott
    LAM>Whitehead

    Option 2 (58k remaining)
    BJ Leilua>Scott
    Evans>Graham

    Option 1 allows me to get rid of a dud cow, and also a dud mid ranger for a guy who has scope for improvement points scoring wise. It also means holding BJ who has the potential to score well in a troublesome position, although his suspension is a concern. Raiders also play 2/3 of the big bye rounds.

    Option 2 brings in a gun which is great, but means i have to hold Green & LAM. I also lose Evans who has potential for improvement and is not currently loosing money. There is also the risk that Scott doesn't hold his spot and i'm stuck with 2 dud centers.

    Thoughts?
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    Post by Rippin and Tearin Thu Mar 17, 2016 8:09 am

    Random wrote:

    HOK: A. McCullough is a concern, although he will hopefully improve as the year progresses so I wouldn't say he is an option to trade out yet. (Although bleeding the cash hurts.) M. Cherrington definitely needs upgrading as he could be dropped in the coming weeks however he isn't losing you cash so you don't have to force a trade there just yet.

    FRF: J. Bromwich, A. Woods and J. Trbojevic are all holds at the moment. While J. Bromwich and A. Woods aren't posting up world beating scores they will still be decent each week and you have nothing to worry about from them. R. Campbell-Gillard is not going to make you any cash but he shouldn't be losing any cash either.

    2RF: M. Taupau, P. Carter and S. Burgess should all be solid for now while P. Carter is still making you cash. Although it is a good sign that A. Paasi is starting again I am not entirely sold on him making too much cash or being that great. But he is definitely worth holding this week. 

    HLF: Nothing worth of note. D. Cherry-Evans bleeding cash but he is doing that for everyone.

    CTR: Green and Henry are trades, I would lean towards Scott as he seems to have better security in the CTR position but after Hunt's performance last week it should hopefully keep Auva'a at bay. Sadly the Storm play before the Rabbitohs so you will have to go with your gut here. (It definitely is a good idea to make this trade if you have no faith in Green before either Hunt or Scott rise in price.)

    WFB: If you find a good cheap option I would dump Wighton for sure. Ferguson also but I think you can hold him longer. Either way I guess you can wait a week for them.

    Regarding your trades I would go with Lawrence in for RGC, it is a risk reward issue.
    Then as I said and I agree with Green out for one of the CTR's you are looking at is a good idea to get them before price rises.

    Other few people I would look at in future weeks depending on your cash. A. Paasi, J. Wighton, and M. Cherrington (May need to be traded in next couple weeks so try and save cash for that.)

    Thanks mate thats a lot of help, appreciate that. Tending towards the Green > Scott and CG > BLaw trades. That gives me a chance to wait at least a week on the other guys you mention.

    I know Wighton hasn't done well so far, and Ferguson, but are they considered (in general) not to be very good choices? Is it that mid-range guys are not preferable in the WFB slot? If I were to change them at some stage would you recommend upgrading to a keeper or trying to find a cash-cow?

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