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    NRL Fantasy 2023 Part 80 - Oprah level red dots

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    Post by Bethany_B Tue Aug 29, 2023 11:37 pm

    rhinoceroo wrote:

    Are real fans - as opposed to those with interests in fantasy teams or betting accounts - all that bothered by the restings?

    If you've earned the right to rest key players and make a balanced assessment of what team you want to put out and what best suits your goals, then why shouldn't you play who you want.

    The whole point of playoffs rather than ladder deciding who the champions are is that the fixture list isn't balanced anyway, so none of this is inconsistent.

    *Edit* sorry, that was supposed to be a response to the idea of NRL doctors signing off on injuries, which is not a realistic idea.

    I like the restings. Gives us a chance to see guys like Howarth and Fa'alogo get a run.

    That said, I much prefer it when both teams are doing it, this Broncos vs Storm game should be fun because nobody expects anything from it other than a bit of fun. When one team's full strength and the other's rested 10 guys, it does get a bit boring (e.g. Cowboys vs Panthers last year)
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    Post by robelgordo Tue Aug 29, 2023 11:39 pm

    I’ve decided to spice things up this week

    REAL TEAM: last trade is Benjamin Hunt. I may also captain him for what is likely his last Dragons game. It’s gonna be 30 or 70+

    AUTOFILL:
    I’m bringing in Lomax and Graham, and pairing them in the CTRs. Whichever one scores highest is the better player forever.
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    Post by Mulvy Tue Aug 29, 2023 11:47 pm

    mattnz wrote:

    Need to captain a player that 2nd place doesn't have, so you are getting twice the benefit.

    Not quite sure why this got a down vote, it makes sense. The problem is there's not many options that are captain worthy and unique to Booze.

    mattnz wrote:

    or Murray in a huge match up playing 80 minutes off the bye to reach the finals.

    That would be an option worth considering I think, Booze.

    Boozecluez wrote:Haha no point stressing over this, fill the starting team and will get a score on sunday arvo
    I have heard the captain recommendations and will definitely follow through with it

    Thanks everyone for the support. It was a good run but noone saw this coming
    Next year choose bottom 8 team players that aren't good or vital to their team haha

    Good luck, whichever way you go.
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    Post by Mulvy Tue Aug 29, 2023 11:50 pm

    multiple.scoregasms wrote:18 after trades might even run a loop

    Coffee

    If there has ever been a correct use for the coffee emoji, this is it Very Happy
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    Post by Mulvy Wed Aug 30, 2023 12:00 am

    Chewie wrote:Well beavers is running out with Burbo.... so all is not lost.
    70 points could equate to 3 players on an average round, so Booze still has a chance, add a nifty captaincy pick and it could all come up millhouse.

    It's a long shot though

    A long shot, but as recently as last week Ramien got 10 points. And he didn't even suffer a concussion. Burbo has form for crap scores too. Anyone can score crap on the day, so there's a chance. Not many points of difference though unfortunately. In fairness to the other guy, appears to have brought in guys deliberately to negate any difference.
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    Post by Mulvy Wed Aug 30, 2023 12:03 am

    Boozecluez wrote:

    Can you do me a favour and go and rub yourself against Beavers sitting in second this week

    Also have updated my team name for a night

    Very Happy
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    Post by Mulvy Wed Aug 30, 2023 12:04 am

    Milchcow wrote:
    There's quite a lot of banners in the rotation now, DCE has been added from last round

    Should we have max limit so that more recent winners get a bit of love, or just keep building them up during the season?

    I'm in favour of an expiry date.
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    Post by Mulvy Wed Aug 30, 2023 12:09 am

    robelgordo wrote:Finally some good player news… JWH unsuccessful at judiciary, now suspended for 7 weeks

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    Post by Mulvy Wed Aug 30, 2023 12:13 am

    mattnz wrote:

    Can't predict this level of carnage, holding 8 trades for the last 2 rounds, just in case they come in handy. The earlier they are used, the more points they provide.

    Milchcow wrote:

    Even if they give us more trades, I'm confident anyone who saves more than 4 trades for the last 2 weeks next year won't be ranked high enough for the saved trades to make a difference, even if the carnage repeats

    Exactly, early upgrades, early money making, trump the alternative every time. It's been a core tenet to Booze's philosophy (and mine) for years.
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    Post by rhinoceroo Wed Aug 30, 2023 12:15 am

    Mulvy wrote:

    A long shot, but as recently as last week Ramien got 10 points. And he didn't even suffer a concussion. Burbo has form for crap scores too. Anyone can score crap on the day, so there's a chance. Not many points of difference though unfortunately. In fairness to the other guy, appears to have brought in guys deliberately to negate any difference.  

    He doesn't have Ramien, although he does have Timoko and I guess the same applies. A low score from him plus Manu being out or off early could see it being advantage Booze again. Robson also a potentially vital question mark for Beavers.
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    Post by Jele Wed Aug 30, 2023 4:06 am

    rhinoceroo wrote:It may be reactive, but wouldn't be massively surprised to see R27 classed as a 13-player bye-style round next year. Has the advantage to fanhub of being a piss easy change to make.

    Doesn’t really make a difference though? Other than make us feel better (and penalise those who managed to scrape together more than 13)?
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    Post by Jele Wed Aug 30, 2023 5:01 am

    robelgordo wrote:I’ve decided to spice things up this week

    REAL TEAM: last trade is Benjamin Hunt. I may also captain him for what is likely his last Dragons game. It’s gonna be 30 or 70+

    AUTOFILL:
    I’m bringing in Lomax and Graham, and pairing them in the CTRs. Whichever one scores highest is the better player forever.

    About time you came around. Nice of you to let Zac down gently.
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    Post by manlybeaver Wed Aug 30, 2023 6:08 am

    Holy shit just looked at the app and only have 10 green dots with no trades
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    Post by Welsh Mafia Wed Aug 30, 2023 6:47 am

    Boozecluez wrote:

    Can you do me a favour and go and rub yourself against Beavers sitting in second this week

    Also have updated my team name for a night

    Just saw your name change. That's epic - make sure you give it as much airtime as you can hahahaha
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    Post by Milchcow Wed Aug 30, 2023 7:22 am

    rhinoceroo wrote:
    Are real fans - as opposed to those with interests in fantasy teams or betting accounts - all that bothered by the restings?

    If you've earned the right to rest key players and make a balanced assessment of what team you want to put out and what best suits your goals, then why shouldn't you play who you want.

    I think there are fans that will be annoyed that what should be a marquee fixture (with the minor premiershipon the line) of Broncos VS Storm has been reduced to a training run.

    I don't blame the clubs, they do what they think is best. And the NRL shouldn't be able to have a say in which players get named. But they should structure the comp as best they can to encourage teams to take every game seriously. Whether that's having extra bye rounds, or a bigger reward for finishing first, or something else.
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    Post by Liverpool_Bulldog Wed Aug 30, 2023 7:30 am

    A Papenhuyzen hatty would be a perfect end to the season for him
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    Post by rhinoceroo Wed Aug 30, 2023 7:40 am

    Milchcow wrote:

    I think there are fans that will be annoyed that what should be a marquee fixture (with the minor premiershipon the line) of Broncos VS Storm has been reduced to a training run.

    I don't blame the clubs, they do what they think is best. And the NRL shouldn't be able to have a say in which players get named. But they should structure the comp as best they can to encourage teams to take every game seriously. Whether that's having extra bye rounds, or a bigger reward for finishing first, or something else.

    In soccer, there's a set amount paid for each position on the table, which theoretically is supposed to keep teams with no chance of either European qualification or relegation playing until the end of the season. I think it goes to the clubs and is discretionary as to whether the players see any of it (and they earn so much that it barely matters) but perhaps NRL-funded bonuses for each ladder position separate to the salary cap would focus a few minds. Doubt they'll think the cost/benefit is worth it though.
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    Post by easytiger Wed Aug 30, 2023 7:45 am

    Milchcow wrote:

    I think there are fans that will be annoyed that what should be a marquee fixture (with the minor premiershipon the line) of Broncos VS Storm has been reduced to a training run.

    I don't blame the clubs, they do what they think is best. And the NRL shouldn't be able to have a say in which players get named. But they should structure the comp as best they can to encourage teams to take every game seriously. Whether that's having extra bye rounds, or a bigger reward for finishing first, or something else.

    Just to put it in context;

    Total salary cap for the clubs; $205,700,000 (17 clubs * 12.1 mil each)

    Prize for winning the Grand final: $800,000

    Prize for winning the minor premiership: $200,000

    Prize for winning the bizarre two-week pre-season challenge: $100,000

    Prize for winning SuperCoach NRL: $50,000

    Prize for winning NRL Fantasy: $2,000 + flights, accommodation for 2 people and 2 nights to see Magic Round (that runs over 3 nights!)


    To my understanding, the prize money winnings are distributed between the club and players. $200k spread across a $12.1 mil cap moves the dial just over 1% if the players got all of it - like it's nice (and would make a difference to me), but for 27 rounds of hard toil, if I was a top 4 team, I'd be looking at what best sets us up for the title (and to a lesser extent, the prize money) that goes with it.
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    Post by Aardvark Wed Aug 30, 2023 7:52 am

    rhinoceroo wrote:It may be reactive, but wouldn't be massively surprised to see R27 classed as a 13-player bye-style round next year. Has the advantage to fanhub of being a piss easy change to make.

    This is probably the solution.
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    Post by BCT05 Wed Aug 30, 2023 8:25 am

    easytiger wrote:

    Just to put it in context;

    Total salary cap for the clubs; $205,700,000 (17 clubs * 12.1 mil each)

    Prize for winning the Grand final: $800,000

    Prize for winning the minor premiership: $200,000

    Prize for winning the bizarre two-week pre-season challenge: $100,000

    Prize for winning SuperCoach NRL: $50,000

    Prize for winning NRL Fantasy: $2,000 + flights, accommodation for 2 people and 2 nights to see Magic Round (that runs over 3 nights!)


    To my understanding, the prize money winnings are distributed between the club and players. $200k spread across a $12.1 mil cap moves the dial just over 1% if the players got all of it - like it's nice (and would make a difference to me), but for 27 rounds of hard toil, if I was a top 4 team, I'd be looking at what best sets us up for the title (and to a lesser extent, the prize money) that goes with it.

    Wow I've never played SuperCoach or even looked into it, didn't realise first prize was that big. Should probably get involved next year.

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