NRL Fantasy 2024 Part 9 - I can't even restart my whole team anymore

multiple.scoregasms wrote:Don't understand the RTS pick at all that I've been seeing

Was a 50 average fullback with 3 point tbs moving to centres priced at 45 after not playing since 2021

Jele wrote:Struggling with my last team call, so welcome anybody's views. Basically:

Smithies/Flegler + Niu

vs

Palasia (or anyone else under $440k) + Kiraz

Both would have to play in my 17. Basically is the upgrade from Niu to Kiraz worth the downgrade from Smithies or Flegler to Palasia?

StormTrooper96 wrote:Ladies and Genticals – would appreciate a tiny bit of support on this one.

Option 1 – Elliot (mid), Kiraz (ctr), play one of Strange, Flano, Chan at 17.

Option 2 – Cotter (mid), Strange (ctr), Lolo at 17, no centre cover.

StormTrooper96 wrote:Ladies and Genticals – would appreciate a tiny bit of support on this one.

Option 1 – Elliot (mid), Kiraz (ctr), play one of Strange, Flano, Chan at 17.

Option 2 – Cotter (mid), Strange (ctr), Lolo at 17, no centre cover.

Jumping Marlin wrote:Kiraz is being mentioned a lot.  What are people expecting from him?

In 80 minute games he has averaged 39 on the wing and 46 in centres.  It's only a 4 game sample in the centre though. It seems to me people are thinking he will average around 46 (or more).  

If Kiraz can average 46 going forward that would make him truly elite.  For example, in 2023 only Gagai (54) and Tago (49) were comfortably above that level.  Herbie, Manu and Holmes were around that level (47.5, 47, 46.3 respectively).  Kiraz would then be above players like Campbell Graham (44), Stephen Crichton (45), Lomax (43), Best (43), Penisini (42), Ramien (40), Staggs (38).  

The assumption Kiraz could average 46 therefore felt like a bit of a stretch to me.   

I went and did some "research" by comparing scores for players who played centre and wing in the same year.   I started with a few obvious guns, Holmes and Gagai, and they both had an uptick of 6+ when playing centre compared to playing wing.  The more I looked at lower scoring players, the less clear it became.

Played Wing and Centre in Same Year:

Perhaps a rough rule of thumb is that the better the player the more they will have an uptick in fantasy points playing centre over wing??  So maybe 46-47 is not too unrealistic after all.

mattnz wrote:

He is built for fantasy, offloads, tackle breaks, big run meters, hates to be tackled with ball in hand and at CTR he gets a few tackles as well. Puts together scoring in lots of areas as his base. If he gets a try or 2 as well, can go huge, like the 90 we saw to start last season.

Krump wrote:
Who are your centres revs?

The Goat Boys wrote:Have ended up with Haas, Harris and Mcinnes in my team.

Jumping Marlin wrote:Kiraz is being mentioned a lot.  What are people expecting from him?

In 80 minute games he has averaged 39 on the wing and 46 in centres.  It's only a 4 game sample in the centre though. It seems to me people are thinking he will average around 46 (or more).  

If Kiraz can average 46 going forward that would make him truly elite.  For example, in 2023 only Gagai (54) and Tago (49) were comfortably above that level.  Herbie, Manu and Holmes were around that level (47.5, 47, 46.3 respectively).  Kiraz would then be above players like Campbell Graham (44), Stephen Crichton (45), Lomax (43), Best (43), Penisini (42), Ramien (40), Staggs (38).  

The assumption Kiraz could average 46 therefore felt like a bit of a stretch to me.   

I went and did some "research" by comparing scores for players who played centre and wing in the same year.   I started with a few obvious guns, Holmes and Gagai, and they both had an uptick of 6+ when playing centre compared to playing wing.  The more I looked at lower scoring players, the less clear it became.

Played Wing and Centre in Same Year:

Perhaps a rough rule of thumb is that the better the player the more they will have an uptick in fantasy points playing centre over wing??  So maybe 46-47 is not too unrealistic after all.

StormTrooper96 wrote:I was so comfortable just having strange and burbo at centre. Now I have Kiraz FOMO again. FOMOOK.

Revraiser wrote:

Suli and Strange, that's after having pulled the Penis out at the last minute though mind

U unsure for Ur centres ?