NRL Fantasy 2024 Part 12 - No need for a restart

Milchcow wrote:
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These things aren't secret information. Its all on NRL.com

https://www.nrl.com/draw/nrl-premiership/2023/finals-week-1/game-3/

https://www.nrl.com/draw/nrl-premiership/2023/finals-week-2/game-1/

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The Bludger#2 wrote:

Did you watch the game?
Unless that was a serious outlier and Strange is suddenly being passed the ball on the 5th, Fog will be doing pretty much all of the kicking for the Raiders.

A half kicking 800m in a game is the literal definition of an outlier. It happens a handful of games a season across all teams.

Yeah just a rough guess based on Foggy + Wighton's KM, but something like 500+ KM for Foggy if doing all the kicking (like SJ last year) could be reasonable.

Could see Strange getting more of a licence as time goes on, but nothing too significant. Maybe 2-4 points worth.

my tv broke wrote:

A half kicking 800m in a game is the literal definition of an outlier. It happens a handful of games a season across all teams.

I'm not expecting Fog to kick 800 a game, but it's very obvious that's the Raiders game plan this year. Fog is one of the better general play kickers in the comp so it's probably going to play out similarly each week. They even mentioned Strange did his job R1, so until he is given reigns to do otherwise, that's how it'll be.

my tv broke wrote:

A half kicking 800m in a game is the literal definition of an outlier. It happens a handful of games a season across all teams.

Errrrm no, everything that happened RD1 is what will continue for the rest of the year. Don't you know how to Fantasy?

Opinions on these trades?

Lolo > Seyfarth
Kiraz > Tay May

mickspicks wrote:

I'm not expecting Fog to kick 800 a game, but it's very obvious that's the Raiders game plan this year. Fog is one of the better general play kickers in the comp so it's probably going to play out similarly each week.

We knew this though?

So it might be 400m next week. 600m the week after. 350m the week after that.

The point is hes not kicking 800m every week since thats what he currently averages in 2024

King Assassin wrote:Opinions on these trades?

Lolo > Seyfarth
Kiraz > Tay May

Depends on your side. Don't see Kiraz as a sell. Lolo definitely.

I have both your trade ins in my side.

my tv broke wrote:

We knew this though?

So it might be 400m next week. 600m the week after. 350m the week after that.

The point is hes not kicking 800m every week since thats what he currently averages in 2024

The point is Strange won't kick, so why would Fog drop to 300m general kicking?

mickspicks wrote:

The point is Strange won't kick, so why would Fog drop to 300m general kicking?

Ah what? Because not every game is the same?

I think im being trolled

mattnz wrote:

Depends on your side. Don't see Kiraz as a sell. Lolo definitely.

I have both your trade ins in my side.

Kiraz probably goes to wing this week with JAC out you'd think. And dont have to miss out of may this week who could avg upwards of 50 the way it looks.
Only other guys on the trade block for me are Sitili, but want to see what that roosters rotation looks like first. Hopgood but I assume he gets more minutes as the season goes on so is a hold. Do you think Kiraz > May is too sideways?

my tv broke wrote:

Ah what? Because not every game is the same?

I think im being trolled

Of course not every game is the same. If the Raiders game plan is to literally kick the shit out of the ball, and Fog is the kicker, then... you'd think Fog would keep his KM up?

He's not going to kick for 800 every week. But the rest isn't a mystery on how the Raiders will play.

mickspicks wrote:

The point is Strange won't kick, so why would Fog drop to 300m general kicking?

Just depends on the flow of the game. Fog had to do a fair few 60m Kicks downtown to bail out the raiders while they were on the back foot. He might not have to do as many and lose 200km in the process

King Assassin wrote:

Kiraz probably goes to wing this week with JAC out you'd think. And dont have to miss out of may this week who could avg upwards of 50 the way it looks.
Only other guys on the trade block for me are Sitili, but want to see what that roosters rotation looks like first. Hopgood but I assume he gets more minutes as the season goes on so is a hold. Do you think Kiraz > May is too sideways?

The JAC wing isnt a bad place to be. He scores well on the wing just in base, could easily add a try or 2 there.

I have both Kiraz and May, happy with both.

Could find another trade maybe?

I think it was ynot who posted earlier the nrl average was around 500km per game (per team)

King Assassin wrote:

Just depends on the flow of the game. Fog had to do a fair few 60m Kicks downtown to bail out the raiders while they were on the back foot. He might not have to do as many and lose 200km in the process

For sure. Can see Strange being more involved closer to the line. He did so in R1 actually. First and foremost though, Raiders will be kicking a lot through Fog (even at 20% less, it's still going through Fog).

mattnz wrote:

The JAC wing isnt a bad place to be. He scores well on the wing just in base, could easily add a try or 2 there.

So you say skip out on May and save the trade?

King Assassin wrote:

So you say skip out on May and save the trade?

I would be getting rid of V Fifita and Kini as the obvious trade outs in your team.

mickspicks wrote:

For sure. Can see Strange being more involved closer to the line. He did so in R1 actually. First and foremost though, Raiders will be kicking a lot through Fog (even at 20% less, it's still going through Fog).

Another thing to look at is possession, while its not a direct coleration as field position on the field plays a part aswell. But raider had 55% of possession if that goes down to even he will lose out on around 100kick metres because Raiders are completing less sets.

my tv broke wrote:I think it was ynot who posted earlier the nrl average was around 500km per game (per team)

Yeah seems about right from the limited samples I looked up. SJ at 515 last year, Cleary at 470 with Luai 70. Foggy 388 with Wighton 172 last year and 261 and 284 respectively in 2022.

I probably should've said ~500 KM average for Foggy seems reasonable, rather than 500+.