NRL Fantasy 2024 Part 12 - No need for a restart

King Assassin wrote:

So you say skip out on May and save the trade?

Do you have a little money in the bank to do Lolo to May? Would need around 70k.

King Assassin wrote:

Kiraz probably goes to wing this week with JAC out you'd think. And dont have to miss out of may this week who could avg upwards of 50 the way it looks.
Only other guys on the trade block for me are Sitili, but want to see what that roosters rotation looks like first. Hopgood but I assume he gets more minutes as the season goes on so is a hold. Do you think Kiraz > May is too sideways?

TayMay isn't a must at this point? It's good if you started with him, but there are so many potential gun centres (Holmes, Manu, Gagai, Garrick, RTS, Tago, you could maybe add Aitken) who can match him that it seems worth treating them like gun WFBs where you buy the slump. Several of those will be available at less than $630k during the season. For example Tago with his high BE is likely to cross May in price next week, although at some point soon he'll score 70 in a game where May scores 20. They're centres. If you want a gun around May's price point, just buy Teddy, who I can confidently predict will score you more points than May this season.

Kiraz could also be one of those gun centres, but I'm also considering punting him. On the wing, he's a 40 point scorer (two years of data) and he's priced at 40. I know JAC might only be out a few weeks but once Xerri is in there's a fair chance that JAC comes back for Wilson instead and Kiraz stats wing. Without thinking about position, think I could get considerably more bang from buck from Smithies, who I should have started with.

mattnz wrote:

I would be getting rid of V Fifita and Kini as the obvious trade outs in your team.

Ended up taking your advice and grabbing Shoes over Vifi so thank you for that. Kini is one I want to hold Unless theres an obvious guy that pops up this week in that position. I think thats sensible Kini might still play rounds 3 and 4 and score well if Titans have more attacking chances. I feel like the Dragons are gonna be really good defensively under flanno this year. Kini wont make much cash now but if he can score mid 30s low 40s in those games ill take that from a nearly base price guy until Campbells back.

rhinoceroo wrote:

TayMay isn't a must at this point? It's good if you started with him, but there are so many potential gun centres (Holmes, Manu, Gagai, Garrick, RTS, Tago, you could maybe add Aitken) who can match him that it seems worth treating them like gun WFBs where you buy the slump. Several of those will be available at less than $630k during the season. For example Tago with his high BE is likely to cross May in price next week, although at some point soon he'll score 70 in a game where May scores 20. They're centres. If you want a gun around May's price point, just buy Teddy, who I can confidently predict will score you more points than May this season.

Kiraz could also be one of those gun centres, but I'm also considering punting him. On the wing, he's a 40 point scorer (two years of data) and he's priced at 40. I know JAC might only be out a few weeks but once Xerri is in there's a fair chance that JAC comes back for Wilson instead and Kiraz stats wing. Without thinking about position, think I could get considerably more bang from buck from Smithies, who I should have started with.

Kiraz stats at wing dropped off last season when playing injured, averages more than 40 when fit.

mattnz wrote:

Kiraz stats at wing dropped off last season when playing injured, averages more than 40 when fit.

Kiraz appreciates you mentioning this

mattnz wrote:

Kiraz stats at wing dropped off last season when playing injured, averages more than 40 when fit.

It sounds like he's kind of still playing injured. And it's two years of data that has him at a 40 average on the wing for his low-scoring side.

mattnz wrote:

Kiraz stats at wing dropped off last season when playing injured, averages more than 40 when fit.

I thought he was a frontrunner for FB if fit, but dealing with the back injury that kept him out of the trials.

WT Winfield wrote:

I thought he was a frontrunner for FB if fit, but dealing with the back injury that kept him out of the trials.

only trained at CTR and wing. Crichton injury leading into the season meant he hasn't been given a run at fullback.

With Tracey and Xerri to come in and Taaffe to be dropped quickly, will be interesting to see where everyone ends up.

Taaffe looked like a school kid playing men, was getting man handled all the time. Him dropping the ball at the start of the game started the rot and lack of possession for the team, that they never recovered from.

mattnz wrote:

only trained at CTR and wing. Crichton injury leading into the season meant he hasn't been given a run at fullback.

With Tracey and Xerri to come in and Taaffe to be dropped quickly, will be interesting to see where everyone ends up.

Taaffe looked like a school kid playing men, was getting man handled all the time. Him dropping the ball at the start of the game started the rot and lack of possession for the team, that they never recovered from.

imo, their best 1-5 would be Tracey, Kiraz, Crichton, Burton, JAC, but that's not going to happen. And their pack would still be lightweight and their halves average so their star backline probably wouldn't matter. Dogs are still in a world of trouble, really.

rhinoceroo wrote:

It sounds like he's kind of still playing injured. And it's two years of data that has him at a 40 average on the wing for his low-scoring side.

When fit - 48, 90, 38, 57, 47, 29 = 51 average with just 3 tries

Returning too early from injury - 30, 37, 31, 42, 40, 23, 12 = 30 average

Then finally got over the injury and averaged 47 at CTR.

If on JACs wing, he probably gets twice as many tries as on the other wing where he played all last season.

And suddenly with the kiraz trade reversed ive got the moey for Hopgood to Haas... but that ones way too sideways right?

mattnz wrote:

only trained at CTR and wing. Crichton injury leading into the season meant he hasn't been given a run at fullback.

With Tracey and Xerri to come in and Taaffe to be dropped quickly, will be interesting to see where everyone ends up.

Taaffe looked like a school kid playing men, was getting man handled all the time. Him dropping the ball at the start of the game started the rot and lack of possession for the team, that they never recovered from.

Yeah I was just under the impression Kiraz was training at CTR/WG because the back injury meant FB wasn't happening. Similarly with Crichton and his injury.

Tracey was 18th man, so nfi how Taaffe held the spot. Tracey may have only looked good in a good team, but Taaffe looked shit in a decent one.

I'd play it conservative and hold Kiraz if I started with him though. Back injury can only get better you'd think and wasn't news to anyone.

Taafe? I heard Hutcho was the first to be dropped for the Dogs?

mattnz wrote:

When fit - 48, 90, 38, 57, 47, 29 = 51 average with just 3 tries

Returning too early from injury - 30, 37, 31, 42, 40, 23, 12 = 30 average

Then finally got over the injury and averaged 47 at CTR.

If on JACs wing, he probably gets twice as many tries as on the other wing where he played all last season.

I'm glad you know the precise point he got over his injury. What about the previous year?

WT Winfield wrote:

Yeah I was just under the impression Kiraz was training at CTR/WG because the back injury meant FB wasn't happening. Similarly with Crichton and his injury.

Tracey was 18th man, so nfi how Taaffe held the spot. Tracey may have only looked good in a good team, but Taaffe looked shit in a decent one.

I'd play it conservative and hold Kiraz if I started with him though. Back injury can only get better you'd think and wasn't news to anyone.

Kiraz did say that fullback is his preferred position.

Aardvark Ratnick wrote:

X2 I wont be pushing anyone out of the way to rush in a Tigers half.

No, you don't understand. He's quite tall.

rhinoceroo wrote:

I'm glad you know the precise point he got over his injury. What about the previous year?

How many injured CTRs average 47?

Can see a massive difference in performance last year too, was doing great, then a sudden drop off in stats in the final 5 games of the season. When he is fully fit, he does great.

rhinoceroo wrote:

I'm glad you know the precise point he got over his injury. What about the previous year?

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L-Jimmy wrote:


No, you don't understand. He's quite tall.

As someone who, despite what I say, likes to trade in every untested rookie half with questionable job security you’ve sold me!!!!!

mattnz wrote:

How many injured CTRs average 47?

Can see a massive difference in performance last year too, was doing great, then a sudden drop off in stats in the final 5 games of the season. When he is fully fit, he does great.

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