NRL Fantasy 2024 Part 45 - All Hands on deck

Tigs wrote:

And a fully fit backrower... As Liam Martin pulled out of training when they started high impact running...

wolfking wrote:I wonder if they are able to call Moses in if he has a blinder tomorrow.

multiple.scoregasms wrote:

Makes it real hard to swing the axe on guys like Crichton and Hynes who will finish top 2 in their position for averages

Camo123 wrote:
Must have been focusing too much on Edwards lol

multiple.scoregasms wrote:

Makes it real hard to swing the axe on guys like Crichton and Hynes who will finish top 2 in their position for averages

robelgordo wrote:

Quick rant

The Sydney Morning Herald had an article that was something like "the one stat and six charts that shows why Edwards replaced Teddy". And the one stat was kick return metres. But aren't kick return a trash metric in isolation?

Edwards is fantastic but:
- he gets a lot of KRMs because teams don't want to kick at To'o and probably even Turuva, To'o is likely the hardest winger to tackle in the game and Turuva would be underrated in that area.
- I would guess Panthers get a lot of KRMs because territorially they dominate and field more long kicks, where there is the space to make big returns.

Worth noting 2nd and 3rd on KRMs are Tuaupiki and Chevy. Rookies that opposing teams want to test our rather than kick to the wings. Meanwhile the likes of Turbo, HTF etc. are a long way down

Seems like really poor analysis

Also the 6 charts were donuts which is pie-chart level garbage.

my tv broke wrote:I dont really pay attention to much media but there was somethinf ~somewhere~ recently that pointed out exactly that.. kick return metres mean fuck all

robelgordo wrote:

Just annoys me more than it should because I deal with similar day-to-day at work haha. Not kick return metres obviously, just people with data skills (easier to teach IMO) but not analytical ones (aka "the vibe").

Chewie wrote:

robelgordo wrote:

Quick rant

The Sydney Morning Herald had an article that was something like "the one stat and six charts that shows why Edwards replaced Teddy". And the one stat was kick return metres. But aren't kick return a trash metric in isolation?

Edwards is fantastic but:
- he gets a lot of KRMs because teams don't want to kick at To'o and probably even Turuva, To'o is likely the hardest winger to tackle in the game and Turuva would be underrated in that area.
- I would guess Panthers get a lot of KRMs because territorially they dominate and field more long kicks, where there is the space to make big returns.

Worth noting 2nd and 3rd on KRMs are Tuaupiki and Chevy. Rookies that opposing teams want to test our rather than kick to the wings. Meanwhile the likes of Turbo, HTF etc. are a long way down

Seems like really poor analysis

Also the 6 charts were donuts which is pie-chart level garbage.

did somebody say donuts?

-insert Homer Simpson GIF -

OMG I didn't realise how many different Homer donut GIFs there are

Chewie wrote:

Are kick return meters a similar stat to the amount of post you make here on the nrlff forum?
quantity doesn't necessarily equal quality

multiple.scoregasms wrote:Two fantasy relevant posts in a row gotta follow it up with a shit post

How many points would Nicho Hynes average if he had to wear sandals during the game

Chewie wrote:

robelgordo wrote:

Just annoys me more than it should because I deal with similar day-to-day at work haha. Not kick return metres obviously, just people with data skills (easier to teach IMO) but not analytical ones (aka "the vibe").

Are kick return meters a similar stat to the amount of post you make here on the nrlff forum?
quantity doesn't necessarily equal quality

multiple.scoregasms wrote:



I actually think it will lead to the entire playstyle for the Roosters changing, mainly due to uncertainty around the right edge position

Since Penrith became dominant ~5 years ago teams have mostly been trying to copy their playstyle with a mobile ball playing 13 that is built around the fact Yeo is an excellent ball player, good ball runner and super durable. The only bloke in the comp who can go close to replicating the role is Cam Murray but only 2 teams get to have those players.

Rooster look to be trying to zig while everyone else zags (which conveniently plays into the strength of their players). By moving Radley to the edge it strengthens the position Robbo considers weakest (so far we have had Wong, Tupouinua, Nat Butcher and Radley rotate through that spot. Whyte even had a stint in one game), while also allowing the Roosters to get back to the style that won a few comps, smashmouth footy. 3 bigs rotating through the middle getting front foot ball with the point of attack switching from lock one pass wide to dummy half. This lets the Roosters play flat and fast around the ruck and leans into the power running game that suits most of the attacking weapons (Walker, BSmith, Watson, Teddy, Manu)

Robbo has realised that Penrith-lite isn't gonna cut it in the finals so is pivoting now to get the squad used to the play style. I expect we see all of Collins, JWH, Whyte, May, Leniu, Watson, Butcher rotate through the middle in shorter stints

Best pack probably looks something like this

Collins
BSmith
JWH
Crichton
Radley
Whyte

Watson
May
Leniu
Butcher

robelgordo wrote:


Also the 6 charts were donuts which is pie-chart level garbage.

Chewie wrote:

maybe I should rephrase that... I meant FOG teams that are currently in the top 1000

Khany wrote:Mikaele lotto still has him sub 35min, despite starting No 13.