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NRL Fantasy 2024 Part 45 - All Hands on deck
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Khany wrote:Madness having Nicho there if it's all true.
Sharks coach literally said if Hynes gets picked he’s going to have to go on a modified training program.
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Re: NRL Fantasy 2024 Part 45 - All Hands on deck
by Wiremu Trades Gone? Wed May 29, 2024 12:03 pm
Tigs wrote:
And a fully fit backrower... As Liam Martin pulled out of training when they started high impact running...
Martin does that during the game as well so not real difference there
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I wonder if they are able to call Moses in if he has a blinder tomorrow.
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The answer to that is dependant on him joining the Aardvarks tomorrow as plannedwolfking wrote:I wonder if they are able to call Moses in if he has a blinder tomorrow.
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Re: NRL Fantasy 2024 Part 45 - All Hands on deck
by The Bludger#2 Wed May 29, 2024 12:29 pm
TheWeapon wrote:
Same, traded him in for round 10, which is the only round he's played. Funny thing is, he hasn't been my worst buy of the season
Agreed. In terms of wasted trade and lost coin, the prize goes to Duncan.
Not sure what Souths are doing, but if he's half as good as Rabbits' estimation of him is then they are wasting a talented Mid-Edge forward.
Cost me 2 trades + $56k lost.
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Must have been focusing too much on Edwards lolBCT05 wrote:
He was in the stands haha
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The Bludger#2 wrote:
Agreed. In terms of wasted trade and lost coin, the prize goes to Duncan.
Not sure what Souths are doing, but if he's half as good as Rabbits' estimation of him is then they are wasting a talented Mid-Edge forward.
Cost me 2 trades + $56k lost.
It's a tough one isn't it? Either two head coaches and their coaching staff at a large club are completely misguided about the capabilities of one of their players, or some bloke who used to play a bit and now watches tv is wrong.
Toss a coin?
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Re: NRL Fantasy 2024 Part 45 - All Hands on deck
by kamikamicameleons Wed May 29, 2024 12:37 pm
@my tv broke after ynot's great bye planner motivated me to buy him a coffee, I thought I better do the same for you. Paypal says donations to you aren't supported in NZ though?
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Re: NRL Fantasy 2024 Part 45 - All Hands on deck
by Jumping Marlin Wed May 29, 2024 1:08 pm
On the Armstrong discussion, I also missed the boat and was ignoring him altogether until Mr Snatchpato started talking.....
Playing with some numbers, what stands out is the impact of that large 87 in his last game means that he makes his money quickly.
But it also means if you want to sell at the peak, he may only be a 3 game hold only.
How to interpret the table: For example, if he scores 40 every week he would make $64k in week 1. He would max out at a total gain of $121k after 3 weeks before slowly slipping in price such that he would make $96k if held for the season.
Note: I used magic number of 13.5. MTB site is using about 13.8 by the looks.
Playing with some numbers, what stands out is the impact of that large 87 in his last game means that he makes his money quickly.
But it also means if you want to sell at the peak, he may only be a 3 game hold only.
How to interpret the table: For example, if he scores 40 every week he would make $64k in week 1. He would max out at a total gain of $121k after 3 weeks before slowly slipping in price such that he would make $96k if held for the season.
- Future Armstrong:
Note: I used magic number of 13.5. MTB site is using about 13.8 by the looks.
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Finch wrote:
Sharks coach literally said if Hynes gets picked he’s going to have to go on a modified training program.
SJ has been on one since last season I think
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Re: NRL Fantasy 2024 Part 45 - All Hands on deck
by multiple.scoregasms Wed May 29, 2024 1:13 pm
precursor wrote:
I'd say it's probably worth it with that breakeven of his. Could settle around a 45 average, currently priced at 32. On the other hand, you can't have every 'must have' cow. You gotta let some through to the keeper.
This is an important point that sometimes gets missed about grabbing players that make sense for your team
Most of us have somewhere between 10-15 trades left and we are about to hit the busy period for squad turnover. If we assume that the final 8 trades will mostly be used for injuries with maybe 1-2 upgrades, that means anywhere between 6-11 of your current squad staying put for the rest of the year
Looking at most squads there are still a bunch of spuds hanging around that we probably don't want long term. For myself there are guys like Waddell, Smithies, Russell, Cole who are certain trade outs. Add in some cows yet to peak that are absolutely not keeper due to only being injury cover (Weekes, Armstrong) those last few trades disappear real quick.
For most teams it will be a question of leaning into bye planning which means finishing with some suboptimal keepers (Sorensen, Plath, SWalker, Brailey) or leaning on cash gen to try hit an more optimal 17 but get smashed during the bye period
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Re: NRL Fantasy 2024 Part 45 - All Hands on deck
by multiple.scoregasms Wed May 29, 2024 1:24 pm
TherealTimSimona wrote:I know Robbos a bit of a Spaz with rotations but what about Whyte at Lock?
Should get high minutes again with that bench and Robbo openly said he wanted to find a spot for him in the team. should get DPP as well since he's played in the middle when on
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Big gamble. Watson will be back in a few weeks, likely moving Whyte back to the bench. Can't see Whyte keeping both Radley and Watson out of the starting lock role, no matter how well he plays.
I actually think it will lead to the entire playstyle for the Roosters changing, mainly due to uncertainty around the right edge position
Since Penrith became dominant ~5 years ago teams have mostly been trying to copy their playstyle with a mobile ball playing 13 that is built around the fact Yeo is an excellent ball player, good ball runner and super durable. The only bloke in the comp who can go close to replicating the role is Cam Murray but only 2 teams get to have those players.
Rooster look to be trying to zig while everyone else zags (which conveniently plays into the strength of their players). By moving Radley to the edge it strengthens the position Robbo considers weakest (so far we have had Wong, Tupouinua, Nat Butcher and Radley rotate through that spot. Whyte even had a stint in one game), while also allowing the Roosters to get back to the style that won a few comps, smashmouth footy. 3 bigs rotating through the middle getting front foot ball with the point of attack switching from lock one pass wide to dummy half. This lets the Roosters play flat and fast around the ruck and leans into the power running game that suits most of the attacking weapons (Walker, BSmith, Watson, Teddy, Manu)
Robbo has realised that Penrith-lite isn't gonna cut it in the finals so is pivoting now to get the squad used to the play style. I expect we see all of Collins, JWH, Whyte, May, Leniu, Watson, Butcher rotate through the middle in shorter stints
Best pack probably looks something like this
Collins
BSmith
JWH
Crichton
Radley
Whyte
Watson
May
Leniu
Butcher
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Re: NRL Fantasy 2024 Part 45 - All Hands on deck
by multiple.scoregasms Wed May 29, 2024 1:25 pm
Two fantasy relevant posts in a row gotta follow it up with a shit post
How many points would Nicho Hynes average if he had to wear sandals during the game
How many points would Nicho Hynes average if he had to wear sandals during the game
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Milchcow wrote:
Its a very hard mental step to take, but one of the best things you can do as a fantasy coach, is ignore a players previous price history.
Current price, break even and expected future scoring are what you care about.
Once a round is locked out, a players old price is gone, and does nothing but screw with you psychologically.
The trade decision isn't trade in Armstrong a month ago or trade him in now. The trade decision is trade him in now or trade him in later/never.
You can't let the cash other people have made already influence your decision as there is nothing you can do about that now.
One option is to do what I did with Jaimin Jolliffe. Regret missing him every week until he gets a long term injury*
*please don't break Armstrong.
SO good Milch!
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wolfking wrote:I wonder if they are able to call Moses in if he has a blinder tomorrow.
It's happened before right? Where someone played the weekend before origin and got called in last minute.
I have a vague memory of this happening, just can't remember who it was
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Re: NRL Fantasy 2024 Part 45 - All Hands on deck
by multiple.scoregasms Wed May 29, 2024 1:36 pm
L-Jimmy wrote:
It's a tough one isn't it? Either two head coaches and their coaching staff at a large club are completely misguided about the capabilities of one of their players, or some bloke who used to play a bit and now watches tv is wrong.
Toss a coin?
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Chewie wrote:
It's happened before right? Where someone played the weekend before origin and got called in last minute.
I have a vague memory of this happening, just can't remember who it was
Apparently Brett Finch was called in last minute, then had a man of the match performance.
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multiple.scoregasms wrote:
This is an important point that sometimes gets missed about grabbing players that make sense for your team
Most of us have somewhere between 10-15 trades left and we are about to hit the busy period for squad turnover. If we assume that the final 8 trades will mostly be used for injuries with maybe 1-2 upgrades, that means anywhere between 6-11 of your current squad staying put for the rest of the year
Looking at most squads there are still a bunch of spuds hanging around that we probably don't want long term. For myself there are guys like Waddell, Smithies, Russell, Cole who are certain trade outs. Add in some cows yet to peak that are absolutely not keeper due to only being injury cover (Weekes, Armstrong) those last few trades disappear real quick.
For most teams it will be a question of leaning into bye planning which means finishing with some suboptimal keepers (Sorensen, Plath, SWalker, Brailey) or leaning on cash gen to try hit an more optimal 17 but get smashed during the bye period
I agree with this reasoning, I'm low on trades so with every trade moving forward I need to consider the playability of the player post-origin.
Are you comfortable playing x player in your team for the run home? Do they score well enough to be in your 17?
And these questions also apply to making decisions on who to trade out
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Re: NRL Fantasy 2024 Part 45 - All Hands on deck
by multiple.scoregasms Wed May 29, 2024 1:45 pm
Chewie wrote:
I agree with this reasoning, I'm low on trades so with every trade moving forward I need to consider the playability of the player post-origin.
Are you comfortable playing x player in your team for the run home? Do they score well enough to be in your 17?
And these questions also apply to making decisions on who to trade out
Makes it real hard to swing the axe on guys like Crichton and Hynes who will finish top 2 in their position for averages
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