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I think trading Teddy out after getting in last week is absurd waste of a trade.
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I think trading Teddy out after getting in last week is absurd waste of a trade.
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Loomer wrote:
I think trading Teddy out after getting in last week is absurd waste of a trade.
Think he means that he is now out again this week so effectively bought him to then have him out two weeks in a row.
Was my situation. Bought him in as a decent captain option for the bye round, then got stuck with him as captain and not even getting points from him this week too. One of my worst moves this season
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Yeah, never thought about that. Thanks for the reminder. He was going to score 200 points last week so as to make up for the bye this week. At least we were well aware of his absence this week!Goodnight Kiwi wrote:Imagine there are other poor schmucks who did Teddy in last week, got stuck and now Teddy out this week? Brutal
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Going all out on trades this week trying to boost down from 11k to top 5k in the coming weeks hopefully.
Shoes - Hands
Salmon - Fifita
Piakura - Twal / Yeo
Armstrong - Latrell/Wighton
Yeo if I get Wighton, Twal if Latrell. Think i Prefer the Twal and Laterell combo for byes.
Leaves me 6 trades, 23k ITB and a full strength team of:
Grant
Haas, Plath, Carrigan
DFifi, KPP
Galvin, Weekes
Aitken, Iro
Garrick, Latrell, Teddy
Brailey, Twal, MKing, Blore
(Hands, Aitkinson, Armstrong,Fa'alogo)
Obvious gap being a need for a top half or two once the top tier guys are fit. Others listed might also need an upgrade down the track too.
Shoes - Hands
Salmon - Fifita
Piakura - Twal / Yeo
Armstrong - Latrell/Wighton
Yeo if I get Wighton, Twal if Latrell. Think i Prefer the Twal and Laterell combo for byes.
Leaves me 6 trades, 23k ITB and a full strength team of:
Grant
Haas, Plath, Carrigan
DFifi, KPP
Galvin, Weekes
Aitken, Iro
Garrick, Latrell, Teddy
Brailey, Twal, MKing, Blore
(Hands, Aitkinson, Armstrong,Fa'alogo)
Obvious gap being a need for a top half or two once the top tier guys are fit. Others listed might also need an upgrade down the track too.
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The chance that Keaon plays 80 min lock in 3 of next 6 and is DPP that fills bye week gaps I need is too useful not to take a punt on with 13 trades left. Still not convinced on Fainu scoring even with nice price point
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first of all, i am reasonably tempted by koloa.
but why is he playing 80 at lock from now on? because it happened once? and because he scored a banner ?
i guess he's just back to edge 80 with murray back which isn't the worst thing
but why is he playing 80 at lock from now on? because it happened once? and because he scored a banner ?
i guess he's just back to edge 80 with murray back which isn't the worst thing
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Doing a write up mostly for my own planning. Any feedback of course welcome.
- Plans:
Current team at full strength with probable trade outs at the end (already certain on doing Kris > Hands) with 12(3) trades left:Api
King DeBelin Plath
Carty KPP
Galvin SWalker
Iro Talagi
Kiraz Garrick Weekes
INT: Hopgood JBrailey Hands Koula
RES: Atkinson Shoes Hynes Strange
Team value: 12.857 million - This value is very low compared to where I want to be, mostly due to completely missing Armstrong and Aitken.
So when looking at this squad I'm trying to figure out who's definitely being traded out, how much coin that'll generate, how many guns it can buy (with a ~300k cashout to facilitate) and then figure out how my trades are looking.
Definite trade outs: Talagi, Hands, Koula, Strange, Shoes, Atkinson, Weekes (7)
Guys I'd happily hold all year if shit hit the fan: Api, King, DeBelin, Plath, Carty, KPP, Galvin, SWalker, Iro, Kiraz, Garrick, Hopgood, JBrailey, Hynes (14)
So at worst case (if no luxury trades available), I have 14 keepers and need another 4-5 to be comfortable. With 20 (12+
trades left, I'll be hoping to save/use 8 on injury, leaving me with 12 to work with to get those 4-5 keepers, noting that if I trade one of my keepers to another keeper, it doesn't improve the position (e.g. Hynes > Fifita this week).
So in order to turn 12 trades into 5 keepers, I'll need 5 trades to get the keepers, 5 probably cashouts to afford them, which leave 2 trades. This likely means I'll only have the option of one outright cash cow (unless those cashouts end up working really well).
Based on cost predictions, and trading out guys at a relative peak in price, I can generate the following revenue to spend on keepers:
Talagi: 470k
Hands: 560k
Koula: 470k (current)
Strange: 460k (current)
Shoes: 400k (current)
Atkinson: 520k
Weekes: 700k
Total: 3.6 mil
So if I was to spread the 3.6mil across 5 guns, it'll average out to be about 720k per gun. Ideally I'd like to get in Cleary and Yeo and/or other high priced guns, so likely I'll be looking at only being able to get 2 uber guns (900k each) and 2 lesser guns (750k each) and use the remaining 300k to upgrade a guy like Carty/KPP/King etc to a full gun.
Priority trade outs are:
1. Strange (on bye, peaked)
2. Shoes (bye next week, maybe not peaked but high BE and not that much more to make)
3. Koula (didn't get fullback, peaked)
4. Talagi (probably peaked)
5. Atkinson (will probably peak during this origin period)
6. Weekes (Fogarty inevitable return will destroy his scoring)
7. Hands (will take a lot of time to reach his peak - outside chance of being a final season keeper)
Guys who I'd love to have in my final side (no particular order):
1. Cleary
2. Fifita
3. Yeo
4. Haas
5. Hynes
6. Murray
7. SJ
8. Angus
9. Carrigan
10. Teddy
11. Ponga
12. Edwards
So my gun shopping has to come from this lot as priorities, and if I can't afford them, look to pickup lesser guns such as:
1. Bateman
2. iPAp
3. Latrell
4. Aitken (on a heater, will regress imo)
5. AFB
6. EKatoa
Trade-in timing will have to be balanced of course, but this means the urgent trade-outs above (Strange, Shoes, Koula) will need to be traded to cash cows in the short term, and I look to pickup the guns later.
Finally this all concludes with the near-term planning of "what to do this week". I absolutely want Fifita, and there's 2 clear ways to go about it.
1. Hynes/NSW do well, and therefore he's likely to stay in the side meaning: Hynes > Fifita
2. Hynes/NSW do shit, meaning Hynes might get dropped and be a valuable captain through origin, in which case I'll try and do a combination of Strange, Shoes, Koula > Fifita, Wighton, other player.
In any case I feel like my team is set up relatively well over the bye period, with only a few issues to iron out (mostly EDG/MIDs for rounds 16/19), but I can't plan that far into the future. Will revisit this closer to round 16 once Origin 1 and rounds 14/15 provide some clarity. I feel like I have some decent wiggle room, as the above is sort of based on a moderately worst case scenario. Obviously an actual worst case scenario will completely derail my season no matter what I plan, so I feel like planning for a moderately worst case scenario will allow me to survive, but also thrive if things go my way.
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Do you have a TLDR version?Snatchpato wrote:Doing a write up mostly for my own planning. Any feedback of course welcome.
- Plans:
Current team at full strength with probable trade outs at the end (already certain on doing Kris > Hands) with 12(3) trades left:Api
King DeBelin Plath
Carty KPP
Galvin SWalker
Iro Talagi
Kiraz Garrick Weekes
INT: Hopgood JBrailey Hands Koula
RES: Atkinson Shoes Hynes Strange
Team value: 12.857 million - This value is very low compared to where I want to be, mostly due to completely missing Armstrong and Aitken.
So when looking at this squad I'm trying to figure out who's definitely being traded out, how much coin that'll generate, how many guns it can buy (with a ~300k cashout to facilitate) and then figure out how my trades are looking.
Definite trade outs: Talagi, Hands, Koula, Strange, Shoes, Atkinson, Weekes (7)
Guys I'd happily hold all year if shit hit the fan: Api, King, DeBelin, Plath, Carty, KPP, Galvin, SWalker, Iro, Kiraz, Garrick, Hopgood, JBrailey, Hynes (14)
So at worst case (if no luxury trades available), I have 14 keepers and need another 4-5 to be comfortable. With 20 (12+
So in order to turn 12 trades into 5 keepers, I'll need 5 trades to get the keepers, 5 probably cashouts to afford them, which leave 2 trades. This likely means I'll only have the option of one outright cash cow (unless those cashouts end up working really well).
Based on cost predictions, and trading out guys at a relative peak in price, I can generate the following revenue to spend on keepers:
Talagi: 470k
Hands: 560k
Koula: 470k (current)
Strange: 460k (current)
Shoes: 400k (current)
Atkinson: 520k
Weekes: 700k
Total: 3.6 mil
So if I was to spread the 3.6mil across 5 guns, it'll average out to be about 720k per gun. Ideally I'd like to get in Cleary and Yeo and/or other high priced guns, so likely I'll be looking at only being able to get 2 uber guns (900k each) and 2 lesser guns (750k each) and use the remaining 300k to upgrade a guy like Carty/KPP/King etc to a full gun.
Priority trade outs are:
1. Strange (on bye, peaked)
2. Shoes (bye next week, maybe not peaked but high BE and not that much more to make)
3. Koula (didn't get fullback, peaked)
4. Talagi (probably peaked)
5. Atkinson (will probably peak during this origin period)
6. Weekes (Fogarty inevitable return will destroy his scoring)
7. Hands (will take a lot of time to reach his peak - outside chance of being a final season keeper)
Guys who I'd love to have in my final side (no particular order):
1. Cleary
2. Fifita
3. Yeo
4. Haas
5. Hynes
6. Murray
7. SJ
8. Angus
9. Carrigan
10. Teddy
11. Ponga
12. Edwards
So my gun shopping has to come from this lot as priorities, and if I can't afford them, look to pickup lesser guns such as:
1. Bateman
2. iPAp
3. Latrell
4. Aitken (on a heater, will regress imo)
5. AFB
6. EKatoa
Trade-in timing will have to be balanced of course, but this means the urgent trade-outs above (Strange, Shoes, Koula) will need to be traded to cash cows in the short term, and I look to pickup the guns later.
Finally this all concludes with the near-term planning of "what to do this week". I absolutely want Fifita, and there's 2 clear ways to go about it.
1. Hynes/NSW do well, and therefore he's likely to stay in the side meaning: Hynes > Fifita
2. Hynes/NSW do shit, meaning Hynes might get dropped and be a valuable captain through origin, in which case I'll try and do a combination of Strange, Shoes, Koula > Fifita, Wighton, other player.
In any case I feel like my team is set up relatively well over the bye period, with only a few issues to iron out (mostly EDG/MIDs for rounds 16/19), but I can't plan that far into the future. Will revisit this closer to round 16 once Origin 1 and rounds 14/15 provide some clarity. I feel like I have some decent wiggle room, as the above is sort of based on a moderately worst case scenario. Obviously an actual worst case scenario will completely derail my season no matter what I plan, so I feel like planning for a moderately worst case scenario will allow me to survive, but also thrive if things go my way.
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Re: NRL Fantasy 2024 Part 47 - Origin time
by Liverpool_Bulldog Wed Jun 05, 2024 10:23 am
I feel bad for buying someone that has just got a banner but yeah he’s an option.my tv broke wrote:first of all, i am reasonably tempted by koloa.
but why is he playing 80 at lock from now on? because it happened once? and because he scored a banner ?
i guess he's just back to edge 80 with murray back which isn't the worst thing
With all of their injuries he might have to play 80 minutes at lock, seems very capable and then yeah just goes back to 80 minute edge where he has a decent enough average. Excellent byes
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Is it reasonable assumption Murray back rd 15 gets through ok goes straight into Origin team?
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by Liverpool_Bulldog Wed Jun 05, 2024 10:39 am
You’d think he goes in if he makes it through 15 unscathedLoomer wrote:Is it reasonable assumption Murray back rd 15 gets through ok goes straight into Origin team?
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Snatchpato wrote:Doing a write up mostly for my own planning. Any feedback of course welcome.
- Plans:
Current team at full strength with probable trade outs at the end (already certain on doing Kris > Hands) with 12(3) trades left:Api
King DeBelin Plath
Carty KPP
Galvin SWalker
Iro Talagi
Kiraz Garrick Weekes
INT: Hopgood JBrailey Hands Koula
RES: Atkinson Shoes Hynes Strange
Team value: 12.857 million - This value is very low compared to where I want to be, mostly due to completely missing Armstrong and Aitken.
So when looking at this squad I'm trying to figure out who's definitely being traded out, how much coin that'll generate, how many guns it can buy (with a ~300k cashout to facilitate) and then figure out how my trades are looking.
Definite trade outs: Talagi, Hands, Koula, Strange, Shoes, Atkinson, Weekes (7)
Guys I'd happily hold all year if shit hit the fan: Api, King, DeBelin, Plath, Carty, KPP, Galvin, SWalker, Iro, Kiraz, Garrick, Hopgood, JBrailey, Hynes (14)
So at worst case (if no luxury trades available), I have 14 keepers and need another 4-5 to be comfortable. With 20 (12+8) trades left, I'll be hoping to save/use 8 on injury, leaving me with 12 to work with to get those 4-5 keepers, noting that if I trade one of my keepers to another keeper, it doesn't improve the position (e.g. Hynes > Fifita this week).
So in order to turn 12 trades into 5 keepers, I'll need 5 trades to get the keepers, 5 probably cashouts to afford them, which leave 2 trades. This likely means I'll only have the option of one outright cash cow (unless those cashouts end up working really well).
Based on cost predictions, and trading out guys at a relative peak in price, I can generate the following revenue to spend on keepers:
Talagi: 470k
Hands: 560k
Koula: 470k (current)
Strange: 460k (current)
Shoes: 400k (current)
Atkinson: 520k
Weekes: 700k
Total: 3.6 mil
So if I was to spread the 3.6mil across 5 guns, it'll average out to be about 720k per gun. Ideally I'd like to get in Cleary and Yeo and/or other high priced guns, so likely I'll be looking at only being able to get 2 uber guns (900k each) and 2 lesser guns (750k each) and use the remaining 300k to upgrade a guy like Carty/KPP/King etc to a full gun.
Priority trade outs are:
1. Strange (on bye, peaked)
2. Shoes (bye next week, maybe not peaked but high BE and not that much more to make)
3. Koula (didn't get fullback, peaked)
4. Talagi (probably peaked)
5. Atkinson (will probably peak during this origin period)
6. Weekes (Fogarty inevitable return will destroy his scoring)
7. Hands (will take a lot of time to reach his peak - outside chance of being a final season keeper)
Guys who I'd love to have in my final side (no particular order):
1. Cleary
2. Fifita
3. Yeo
4. Haas
5. Hynes
6. Murray
7. SJ
8. Angus
9. Carrigan
10. Teddy
11. Ponga
12. Edwards
So my gun shopping has to come from this lot as priorities, and if I can't afford them, look to pickup lesser guns such as:
1. Bateman
2. iPAp
3. Latrell
4. Aitken (on a heater, will regress imo)
5. AFB
6. EKatoa
Trade-in timing will have to be balanced of course, but this means the urgent trade-outs above (Strange, Shoes, Koula) will need to be traded to cash cows in the short term, and I look to pickup the guns later.
Finally this all concludes with the near-term planning of "what to do this week". I absolutely want Fifita, and there's 2 clear ways to go about it.
1. Hynes/NSW do well, and therefore he's likely to stay in the side meaning: Hynes > Fifita
2. Hynes/NSW do shit, meaning Hynes might get dropped and be a valuable captain through origin, in which case I'll try and do a combination of Strange, Shoes, Koula > Fifita, Wighton, other player.
In any case I feel like my team is set up relatively well over the bye period, with only a few issues to iron out (mostly EDG/MIDs for rounds 16/19), but I can't plan that far into the future. Will revisit this closer to round 16 once Origin 1 and rounds 14/15 provide some clarity. I feel like I have some decent wiggle room, as the above is sort of based on a moderately worst case scenario. Obviously an actual worst case scenario will completely derail my season no matter what I plan, so I feel like planning for a moderately worst case scenario will allow me to survive, but also thrive if things go my way.
Strange, Koula, Shoes are instant outs for mine. Hynes has to go too because you need the points and can't afford any cash loss.
Your targets are missing a CTR and cover - suggest Wighton at cut price.
From you sub-tier guns, only Latrell is somewhat undepriced, so he comes in.
Twal isn't mentioned, but is a high value pick with good byes - noting you're good for mids. But could make you 150k and help get to Yeo.
Last you need a cash cow, suggest holding your nose and going Seyfarth or betting on Simpkin. Jack Cole is the other good option.
Lots of trades is nice, so can take the risk.
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I was going to grab Preston but Koala is definitely tempting with the DPP and added round 19. I think Preston scores more by seasons end if he remains in the run on side for the year though.
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by Liverpool_Bulldog Wed Jun 05, 2024 10:47 am
But Salmon is ahead of him….wolfking wrote:I was going to grab Preston but Koala is definitely tempting with the DPP and added round 19. I think Preston scores more by seasons end if he remains in the run on side for the year though.
Sorry but it’s just a crazy thing to even write
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for me he's a cash cow...priced at 29 & averaging 43.7 in his last 3 games & he's cheap & starting whereas hughes with a b/e of 54 his price will plummet...i actually wanted k. haas who averages 52 when starting at lock but couldn't afford him
Thanks WL, I wanted Kleese Haas as well and it works but leaves me with $0 in the bank. I'm not sure having a $0 balance is a great idea the way this season has played out to date...
I suppose Seyfarth is a cash cow (who I'll have to play at least four times before round 20) but it feels wrong
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Liverpool_Bulldog wrote:
But Salmon is ahead of him….
Sorry but it’s just a crazy thing to even write
Yes, it's a definite risk when Kikua returns but surely the coach's hand is forced by that stage..........
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Thanks WL, I wanted Kleese Haas as well and it works but leaves me with $0 in the bank. I'm not sure having a $0 balance is a great idea the way this season has played out to date...
I suppose Seyfarth is a cash cow (who I'll have to play at least four times before round 20) but it feels wrong
Not understanding the KHaas love. Scores are aren't that great at all.
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Not understanding the KHaas love. Scores are aren't that great at all.
He's not Seyfarth and he's got a magnificent haircut
Edit : He's also better at 13
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He's not Seyfarth and he's got a magnificent haircut
Edit : He's also better at 13
3 games with 2 tries at a 48 average. Small sample size but those 2 games with tries aren't the best scoring.
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