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    Post by Dip Fri May 06, 2016 2:58 pm

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    Given the one team town status of the Broncos and the amount of rep players they have had in each of their sides over the years, Id argue their record is incredible poor.  I honestly don't know how you guys have managed to lose as many premierships as you have with the players you've had at your disposal and the corporate support you have access to.  If Toovey was in charge he'd be asking for an investigation for sure.

    Yeah I'd agree that I don't think we've overperformed. Granted that winning a premiership is tough and you still need a lot of things to go your way, particularly with injuries, but even with our difficult travel schedule compared to the Sydney teams, I reckon the premiership every 3 years record we had after the 2006 season was about right. Damn introduction of the Titans did the same job on us as the Sharks did to the Dragons. Hope we win more than 1 in the next 50 years...
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    Post by dasherhalo Fri May 06, 2016 3:05 pm

    Ice wrote:

    Given the one team town status of the Broncos and the amount of rep players they have had in each of their sides over the years, Id argue their record is incredible poor.  I honestly don't know how you guys have managed to lose as many premierships as you have with the players you've had at your disposal and the corporate support you have access to.  If Toovey was in charge he'd be asking for an investigation for sure.

    If most Broncos supporters are honest with themselves, this is the question that keeps us up at nights.

    Wait....

    No, that's supporters of other clubs.

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    Post by Honeysett Fri May 06, 2016 4:00 pm

    Dip wrote:

    Yeah I'd agree that I don't think we've overperformed. Granted that winning a premiership is tough and you still need a lot of things to go your way, particularly with injuries, but even with our difficult travel schedule compared to the Sydney teams, I reckon the premiership every 3 years record we had after the 2006 season was about right. Damn introduction of the Titans did the same job on us as the Sharks did to the Dragons. Hope we win more than 1 in the next 50 years...

    A decade without a premiership for the biggest club in the NRL isn't good enough. How many years do you give this current window? When do you deem it a failure?
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    Post by Dip Fri May 06, 2016 4:40 pm

    Honeysett wrote:

    A decade without a premiership for the biggest club in the NRL isn't good enough. How many years do you give this current window? When do you deem it a failure?

    Well there's no use looking back (particularly where the competition was bastardised by cheating teams since out last premiership, and as I've mentioned above probably robbed us of another 3 premierships  Wink ). Personally, I think that injuries pending, this is our year, partially because of how we're playing, and partially because I don't think there are many premiership quality teams this year. You'd think next year is another good chance. After that who knows because we don't really know what our or other teams will look like then.

    I also look at success in 2 ways. There is the ultimate success - a premiership, and also the week to week success. In terms of the second measure, we've still done pretty good. In 9 seasons we've made a GF, another 2 prelim finals, and the finals on 4 other ocassions I think. We've only missed the finals twice I think, and both of those times we were still a chance of making the finals leading into the last couple of rounds and have won close to half our matches for the season. A decade would be unacceptable if we weren't making finals regularly, but since our lows haven't really been that low, it has been easy enough to accept.

    Oh and for 90% of that time we've been able to hold on to origin success also.
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    Post by No Worries Fri May 06, 2016 11:52 pm

    Dip wrote:I guess you shouldn't automatically hire the secretary with the biggest funbags.

    My aunty is close to 70, her fun bags are pretty shit. But she was Dennis Fitz secretary and she says he's a cunt.

    True story.
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    Post by Ice Sat May 07, 2016 8:06 am

    Dip wrote:

    Well there's no use looking back (particularly where the competition was bastardised by cheating teams since out last premiership, and as I've mentioned above probably robbed us of another 3 premierships  Wink ). Personally, I think that injuries pending, this is our year, partially because of how we're playing, and partially because I don't think there are many premiership quality teams this year. You'd think next year is another good chance. After that who knows because we don't really know what our or other teams will look like then.

    I also look at success in 2 ways. There is the ultimate success - a premiership, and also the week to week success. In terms of the second measure, we've still done pretty good. In 9 seasons we've made a GF, another 2 prelim finals, and the finals on 4 other ocassions I think. We've only missed the finals twice I think, and both of those times we were still a chance of making the finals leading into the last couple of rounds and have won close to half our matches for the season. A decade would be unacceptable if we weren't making finals regularly, but since our lows haven't really been that low, it has been easy enough to accept.

    Oh and for 90% of that time we've been able to hold on to origin success also.

    Yeah, I think you guys are specials this year and next at the very least. Coming into a real golden age as you should with all the advantages you are provided by the league. After the Eels saga is over it may present some issues if the NRL finally decide to get serious with the cap, but if they do then I suspect they will leave Brisbane well down the list because once they finally uncover the rorting that has allowed you guys to keep all the origin and international players you have each year, it really will blow every body else out of the water and won't be good for the game, just like the debacle that has been the Eels for the best part of a few decades save for the odd season.

    Hey, I don't begrudge the Broncos their limited success, it is crucial for the game up there but the reality is the success for teams in cities with 8 teams all competing for the corporate dollar and junior players and without the additional benefits the NRL allow them is much much harder, that only two of those teams have failed to win a premiership since Brisbane entered the comp is actually quite an amazing effort by the 6 other and well over par and that will be improved further if Cronulla happen to jag the win this year, with there limited resources, rep stars and corporate support. 14 wins for sydney teams v the well under par 5 (97 excluded) for the Broncos. Imagine if We halved the Sydney teams. The comp would die nationally as the non Sydney teams just wouldn't be able to compete.
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    Post by Guest Sat May 07, 2016 8:14 am

    Why has this thread derailed to the Broncos success? This thread is about those salary cap cheating scumbags the Eels. Have those shit heads got under the cap yet? Time is running out! Tick tock.
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    Post by Dip Sat May 07, 2016 8:24 am

    Junior players? Everyone has access to everyone. A good example is your own club, where the 3 best/most influential players are a QLDer, a Kiwi and a Fijiian. Plus look at at all the premiers for god knows how long. They've done it on the back of QLDers, Kiwis and Poms. 2008 Manly team is about the only side in the last decade that has done it on the back of NSW'men.
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    Post by Guest Sat May 07, 2016 8:26 am

    Your Name wrote:

    My aunty is close to 70, her fun bags are pretty shit. But she was Dennis Fitz secretary and she says he's a cunt.

    True story.
    I think in this instance we wont need you to post pics.
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    Post by leaguegod Sat May 07, 2016 8:27 am

    Dip wrote:Junior players? Everyone has access to everyone. A good example is your own club, where the 3 best/most influential players are a QLDer, a Kiwi and a Fijiian. Plus look at at all the premiers for god knows how long. They've done it on the back of QLDers, Kiwis and Poms. 2008 Manly team is about the only side in the last decade that has done it on the back of NSW'men.


    yeah i guess the st george team only had 10 players who had played origin for NSW


    Roosters 7 NSW origin players


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    Post by Dip Sat May 07, 2016 8:30 am

    Brisbane fans, like Manly fans, are also bemused that non supporters seem to take more joy in our "lack" of success than they're own team's success. It sounds like Phil Gould. Always putting down Brisbane and never having a look at himself despite teams he's associated with in the last 25 years doing better after he left than when he was with them.
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    Post by Dip Sat May 07, 2016 8:34 am

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    yeah i guess the st george team only had 10 players who had played origin for NSW


    Roosters 7 NSW origin players


    Oops. I admit I forgot about the Dragons. Let's just say they did it on the back of a QLD coach. As for the Roosters, imo the only did it on the back of a Kiwi code hopper with support of 16 others. When he wasn't there they were still a good team but couldn't get it done.
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    Post by leaguegod Sat May 07, 2016 8:39 am

    Dip wrote:
    Oops. I admit I forgot about the Dragons. Let's just say they did it on the back of a QLD coach. As for the Roosters, imo the only did it on the back of a Kiwi code hopper with support of 16 others. When he wasn't there they were still a good team but couldn't get it done.

    you know as well as i do that grand finals aren't won by 1 player, 2 of the 3 most important players for that team were NSW players that season (the halves)
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    Post by Dip Sat May 07, 2016 8:54 am

    leaguegod wrote:

    you know as well as i do that grand finals aren't won by 1 player, 2 of the 3 most important players for that team were NSW players that season (the halves)

    I actually sort of disagree with that. You need a full team to get and win a gf, but you rarely win that unless you have a couple of go to superstars. Pearce and Moloney are terrific club halves, but imo they were never going to win since he left. Same with Burgess and Inglis for the rabbits in 2014, JT for the Cows, and imo Milford for us. If he is injured at the end of the year I can't see us winning the big one, even though I'd fancy us going deep into the finals.
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    Post by Ice Sat May 07, 2016 9:19 am

    Sorry guys, I'm just teasing a bit, and I'm not usually a troll, so my bad.

    I wish my team was as successful as the Broncos, no doubt about it and this salary cap thing really has pissed me off.
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    Post by Dip Sat May 07, 2016 9:23 am

    Ice wrote:Sorry guys, I'm just teasing a bit, and I'm not usually a troll, so my bad.

    I wish my team was as successful as the Broncos, no doubt about it and this salary cap thing really has pissed me off.

    Haha. And stop talking up your favourite players. Every time you do lately they switch codes!
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    Post by Guest Sat May 07, 2016 9:26 am

    Dip wrote:

    Haha. And stop talking up your favourite players. Every time you do lately they switch codes!
    lol!
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    Post by standard-issue Sat May 07, 2016 10:13 am

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    My aunty is close to 70, her fun bags are pretty shit. But she was Dennis Fitz secretary and she says he's a cunt.

    True story.
    I think in this instance we wont need you to post pics.

    I beg to differ Very Happy
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    Post by Honeysett Sat May 07, 2016 1:30 pm

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    I beg to differ Very Happy

    Go for someone your own age, at least 75.
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    Post by Ice Sat May 07, 2016 1:46 pm

    Dip wrote:

    Haha. And stop talking up your favourite players. Every time you do lately they switch codes!

    Yep, my track records pretty bad. I'm loving Corey Norman and I'm guessing we are gonna lose him too. Was so happy when we got him but looks like it may be short lived.

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