2016 NRL.com Fantasy thread part 24

StuDogg101 wrote:

I did option A bro.

So you should do B. Unless you wish to share my probable pain?

Ben Hunt's Butterfingers wrote:

I think de Belin has been a popular buy this week, so is guaranteed an injury. Option B could be the smart/POD play.

SI wrote:

Haha.  Personally don't get the Tolman love this year; I bought in JDB last week and J Graham this week.  Tolman needs an injury to become worth it if the Scott to Holland wasn't a part of the deal.  

But the cash you make from Holland allows you to upgrade later on so the long term option is the 2nd one.

Cheers boys!

Tolman is $80,000 cheaper than Graham and they both finished last year at nearly the same avg and price, same as the year before
for very similar fantasy players I cant see much less of the same happening this year

I want JDB as he has great byes and will the 2015 Mannering playing 80 at lock, so needs to be had now because his price keeps rising

Just don't want to miss Hymel Hunt MK2 in Holland and get rid of a red dot in the same swing and add a massive POD in Tolman who should avg 50?

Welshy wrote:





Cheers boys!

Tolman is $80,000 cheaper than Graham and they both finished last year at nearly the same avg and price, same as the year before
for very similar fantasy players I cant see much less of the same happening this year

I want JDB as he has great byes and will the 2015 Mannering playing 80 at lock, so needs to be had now because his price keeps rising

Just don't want to miss Hymel Hunt MK2 in Holland and get rid of a red dot in the same swing and add a massive POD in Tolman who should avg 50?

I was looking over the Graham/Tolman stats earlier aswell and its pretty tempting for the 80k you save in the process for a very small difference in AVG.

updates in

Gordon 33
Gutherson 35
Norman 56
Semi 56
Alvaro 48
Mau 48
Peats 43

Taupau 47
JTurbo 53
TTurbo 33

waiting to see the KD given to Gutherson because I seen at least 5. Bastards

Welshy wrote:updates in

Gordon 33
Gutherson 35
Norman 56
Semi 56
Alvaro 48
Mau 48
Peats 43

Taupau 47
JTurbo 53
TTurbo 33

waiting to see the KD given to Gutherson because I seen at least 5. Bastards

Alright well there goes the AE plan think ill have to trade Woods out
Also why hasnt Tolman seen the 60+ minutes he did when the season started, down to mid 45s past few games, slight concern

hmmm in regards to JDB

Hasn't Havilli been coming on at lock when he has been on he bench? He did in R5 and JDB played 60 mins

he didn't play in R4 and R6 in two of JDB's big scoring games?

My 2 cents on the Tolman v Graham choice.  

I had Tolman most of last year, from about Round 5 from memory.  He was great, but not quite the Tolman of old.  He got some unplanned big minutes in a few games early on due to injury; and then got planned big minutes later in the season due to picking up the workload from those injuries.  

Graham is averaging about 10 points more than Tolman (after taking out Tolman's Rd 2 score), which is about right considering the price difference.  Unless Tolman again this year benefits from injuries, then picking him over Graham means you want that 80k saved to give you at least a 10 point extra upgrade with another player somewhere else to be worth NOT picking Graham in the first place.

SI wrote:My 2 cents on the Tolman v Graham choice.  

I had Tolman most of last year, from about Round 5 from memory.  He was great, but not quite the Tolman of old.  He got some unplanned big minutes in a few games early on due to injury; and then got planned big minutes later in the season due to picking up the workload from those injuries.  

Graham is averaging about 10 points more than Tolman (after taking out Tolman's Rd 2 score), which is about right considering the price difference.  Unless Tolman again this year benefits from injuries, then picking him over Graham means you want that 80k saved to give you at least a 10 point extra upgrade with another player somewhere else to be worth NOT picking Graham in the first place.

hasn't Graham had two huge scores due to injuries in the doggies pack at the start of the season though to boost his avg?

Welshy wrote:hmmm in regards to JDB

Hasn't Havilli been coming on at lock when he has been on he bench? He did in R5 and JDB played 60 mins

he didn't play in R4 and R6 in two of JDB's big scoring games?

Oh shit well there's a problem. Not too concerned though he's still a 50 points player in that time and he's good for byes.

Johnny B Goode wrote:

Oh shit well there's a problem. Not too concerned though he's still a 50 points player in that time and he's good for byes.

Havili was on the bench in R3 though and only played 4 minutes, JDB played 76
Just seems to be a bit of correlation between their minutes

Welshy wrote:

SI wrote:My 2 cents on the Tolman v Graham choice.  

I had Tolman most of last year, from about Round 5 from memory.  He was great, but not quite the Tolman of old.  He got some unplanned big minutes in a few games early on due to injury; and then got planned big minutes later in the season due to picking up the workload from those injuries.  

Graham is averaging about 10 points more than Tolman (after taking out Tolman's Rd 2 score), which is about right considering the price difference.  Unless Tolman again this year benefits from injuries, then picking him over Graham means you want that 80k saved to give you at least a 10 point extra upgrade with another player somewhere else to be worth NOT picking Graham in the first place.

hasn't Graham had two huge scores due to injuries in the doggies pack at the start of the season though to boost his avg?

Yep, fair call, but even then if you just count the last 4 games, where both were more "normal" minutes, Graham still averages 8 to 9 more points at almost identical minutes (Graham averaged 1 extra minute per game).

SI wrote:

Yep, fair call, but even then if you just count the last 4 games, where both were more "normal" minutes, Graham still averages 8 to 9 more points at almost identical minutes (Graham averaged 1 extra minute per game).

Cheers mate guess I'm banking on Tolman lifting in the next few weeks then if i go through with the second trade

Their past seasons stats are so similar both seemingly going on runs where they outscore each other

took and offload and TB off Gutherson

Welshy wrote:

SI wrote:

Yep, fair call, but even then if you just count the last 4 games, where both were more "normal" minutes, Graham still averages 8 to 9 more points at almost identical minutes (Graham averaged 1 extra minute per game).

Cheers mate guess I'm banking on Tolman lifting in the next few weeks then if i go through with the second trade

Their past seasons stats are so similar both seemingly going on runs where they outscore each other

Yep, but that's what I was saying with my first post. Tolman got some deadset massive minutes last year and his scores didn't quite equate to that. If you really wanted to separate them objectively then maybe going through the minutes and scores from last year in each game would be a worthwhile exercise. From my old man memory though, having owned Tolman, he was great, but should have done a bit more than he did last year.

In saying that too Welshy, I do feel your 2nd trade involving Tolman is the better option long term with the money you save initially and the money you gain long term on Holland. I had the extra cash to pick up JDB and Graham in the last week only because of that initial strategy I had where I banked half a million on my Round 1 team.

SI wrote:In saying that too Welshy, I do feel your 2nd trade involving Tolman is the better option long term with the money you save initially and the money you gain long term on Holland.  I had the extra cash to pick up JDB and Graham in the last week only because of that initial strategy I had where I banked half a million on my Round 1 team.

Cheers mate, might take a punt on Kennar being the replacement for Chambers over Holland if it means I can pick up JDB or Graham instead

Welshy wrote:

SI wrote:In saying that too Welshy, I do feel your 2nd trade involving Tolman is the better option long term with the money you save initially and the money you gain long term on Holland.  I had the extra cash to pick up JDB and Graham in the last week only because of that initial strategy I had where I banked half a million on my Round 1 team.

Cheers mate, might take a punt on Kennar being the replacement for Chambers over Holland if it means I can pick up JDB or Graham instead

Your Havili stat is very interesting though. I saw it as a bonus that Havili was named this week as a JDB owner, but it may be the opposite.

Also, and cos I'm a confusing cunt sometimes, but the risk you take that Tolman picks up minutes again I reckon is worth it. So personally I do think your Tolman and Holland in option is the right one long term. I was pointing out the Graham v Tolman debate in isolation initially.

Ah shit missed the late mail and reserved Blaw!

OnTheLast wrote:Ah shit missed the late mail and reserved Blaw!

Me too mate. I had Parcell as well so I'll be eating a krispy kreme donut this week.

I've missed 5 late outs now. There's around 200 points there.

Haha felt like bringing in the Friz or Woods, but I only put the C on Surgess and V on JDB haha so no DPP available hahaha dumby

superbucks wrote:

Me too mate. I had Parcell as well so I'll be eating a krispy kreme donut this week.

I've missed 5 late outs now. There's around 200 points there.

I join the parcell and b Lawrence in the starting 17 club