NFL Fantasy II

Hot damn. Gives you the shites real easy, jordy nelson with a zero. My kicker gets an 8 today and jordy gets one reception. Now watch crabtree bang out a 20.

Mearcats wrote:Shit... May have spoken well too soon regarding my matchup with @Archer this week! With Howard and Nelson doing sweet FA in the Packers Bears game it's shaping up to be well tighter than I originally anticipated.

Nah, this morning made me realise just how out of my depth I am in this thing. Was bemoaning the fact that NFL fantasy seems so inconsistent outside of about 8 players so I did a bit of research and was contemplating gillislee, jaquiz, knille Davis or Montgomery, but the problem is I've got nfi so taking a punt on one or two is a complete guess, can't even go with my gut. So I thought the smart move is to put my trade feelers out with teams who had consistent scorers and try get one there.

I send Rawls a message checking on his rb's only to wake up this morning to find the ruthless fucker has gone and picked up jaquiz and gillislee and says I can trade him for one of then if I want :O fucking smacked me down. Oh and Meridith scored 1, reaffirming my belief that NFL fantasy is a complete lottery outside of the big guns. Every week I read about which of my players are seeing more ball, which have favourable matchups, who has the higher projected score etc and every week it feels like the experts are way off... Feck

Archer wrote:
Nah, this morning made me realise just how out of my depth I am in this thing. Was bemoaning the fact that NFL fantasy seems so inconsistent outside of about 8 players so I did a bit of research and was contemplating  gillislee, jaquiz, knille Davis or Montgomery, but the problem is I've got nfi so taking a punt on one or two is a complete guess, can't even go with my gut.  So I thought the smart move is to put my trade feelers out with teams who had consistent scorers and try get one there.

I send Rawls a message checking on his rb's only to wake up this morning to find the ruthless fucker has gone and picked up jaquiz and gillislee and says I can trade him for one of then if I want :O fucking smacked me down. Oh and Meridith scored 1, reaffirming my belief that NFL fantasy is a complete lottery outside of the big guns. Every week I read about which of my players are seeing more ball, which have favourable matchups, who has the higher projected score etc and every week it feels like the experts are way off... Feck

I hear what you are saying mate, but at least most of us are all on the same level. Sure, a few of the boys in L2 land are NFL fans which put those of us who aren't at a slight disadvantage but then some of those guys have had the worst of the injury run.

The scoring is a little inconsistent (nothing major though) but I think the majority of fluctuating scores come about to the variations in the style of game play each week. Different structures and stuff developed for different teams and tactical approaches on how to beat that team means that a player like Melvin Gordon goes gangbusters one week and the next week doesn't hit double digits.

Meredith scoring one today was a bonus for me after having two players play for a combined total of two points. Only takes one of yours to beat his projected by 5+ and we are in for a tight one tho mate.

Archer wrote:
Nah, this morning made me realise just how out of my depth I am in this thing. Was bemoaning the fact that NFL fantasy seems so inconsistent outside of about 8 players so I did a bit of research and was contemplating  gillislee, jaquiz, knille Davis or Montgomery, but the problem is I've got nfi so taking a punt on one or two is a complete guess, can't even go with my gut.  So I thought the smart move is to put my trade feelers out with teams who had consistent scorers and try get one there.

I send Rawls a message checking on his rb's only to wake up this morning to find the ruthless fucker has gone and picked up jaquiz and gillislee and says I can trade him for one of then if I want :O fucking smacked me down. Oh and Meridith scored 1, reaffirming my belief that NFL fantasy is a complete lottery outside of the big guns. Every week I read about which of my players are seeing more ball, which have favourable matchups, who has the higher projected score etc and every week it feels like the experts are way off... Feck

It is more of a lottery this far into the season mate, that is why the draft is so important getting stable guys in the early rounds and taking some flyers later on...also why the waiver wire is so important when the injuries start piling up...i got lucky last night, dropped Lacy who is now on IR almost picked up and started his stated replacement Knile Davies..he scored zero points...instead i picked up Bernard who hasnt played yet so could still be a disaster

@Pain @Surmo13

both trade sides were sufficiently balanced so i fast tracked the trade between you 2

That moment where you get caught out by the Friday game and the 2 players on your bench that you intended on playing both score 20+. Sigh. Including Devante Adams. Fail.

StuDogg101 wrote:That moment where you get caught out by the Friday game and the 2 players on your bench that you intended on playing both score 20+. Sigh. Including Devante Adams. Fail.

Can't say I know it, don't think I've got two players who can score over 20

Welshy wrote:@Pain @Surmo13

both trade sides were sufficiently balanced so i fast tracked the trade between you 2

Cheers. I hopefully have traded out some poison.

Pain wrote:

Cheers.  I hopefully have traded out some poison.

Benjamin is a big piece but Maclin and Crowell are good pieces, Crowell has had alot more ball than I thought he would of and Maclin has just had a slow start

Also, I agree Mearcats, I'm not sure the inconsistency is down to the way NFL fantasy is scored so much as the way games play out as you said. What frustrates me is that It seems like the experts take the matchups into account and try to predict how these games play out, yet always wind up very very wrong and I'm not knowledgeable enough to dismiss what they are saying and make my own predictions. I'm just more annoyed at myself I guess, I really wanted to make a move and take a risk on someone last night but had no confidence in which of my players was worth keeping OR which of the available guys was worth picking up, which would never happen in NRL.

Anyone who had Meredith got a bit unlucky this week though aye. When ur QB goes down with a broken arm anything you thought might have happened pre game goes out the window.

The Bears whole offence tanked once Hayer went down...

Archer wrote:Also, I agree Mearcats, I'm not sure the inconsistency is down to the way NFL fantasy is scored so much as the way games play out as you said. What frustrates me is that It seems like the experts take the matchups into account and try to predict how these games play out, yet always wind up very very wrong and I'm not knowledgeable enough to dismiss what they are saying and make my own predictions. I'm just more annoyed at myself I guess, I really wanted to make a move and take a risk on someone last night but had no confidence in which of my players was worth keeping OR which of the available guys was worth picking up, which would never happen in NRL.

Your always welcome to ask mate, but i know it is more fun to be making ur own choices mostly.
Jaquiz and Gilislee are both risky in that u dont know how long the other guys will be out for. Gillislee atleast looks like he mau play a game or two as a starter, he would have been good to pick up if u had someone u were willing to sacrifice. Similarly i took a punt on bringing in West with the way that team was/is evolving. In hindsight it has proved a solid move. Some teams RB plans are impossible to work out. Look at the panthers, Stewart is a non event and then injured, yet when this happens the Panthers have two or three guys who are impressive but it is a 'committee'.

@Archer, your right with the experts predictions and expectations. I love the nfl and love fantasy, but the hijinx media and articles that are weekly, websites, podcasts etc.. so much goes into and is focused on the fantasy side of the sport that it alla seems to just lead to annual/daily 'must be produced' journo trash articles. In saying that, i like to read it to and will continue to do so. Just dont take much into the anticipated matchup calls.
PPR leagues can offer more points per week excitement, but i hate it as recievers get points for simply catching the ball.

Archer wrote:Also, I agree Mearcats, I'm not sure the inconsistency is down to the way NFL fantasy is scored so much as the way games play out as you said. What frustrates me is that It seems like the experts take the matchups into account and try to predict how these games play out, yet always wind up very very wrong and I'm not knowledgeable enough to dismiss what they are saying and make my own predictions. I'm just more annoyed at myself I guess, I really wanted to make a move and take a risk on someone last night but had no confidence in which of my players was worth keeping OR which of the available guys was worth picking up, which would never happen in NRL.

Couldn't agree more with this mate! I have absolutely no idea what I'm doing and am basically just flying by the seat of my pants. I was lucky in the draft picking up a few decent guys but then this week I made a mistake in reading too much into the "start 'em sit 'em".

Drew Brees had a horrible matchup and was a bust according to NFL.com and Rivers was a sure thing. Rivers scores 14 and Brees goes 24. Nelson was a start and Ajayi was a sit, Nelsom scores 4 and Ajayi goes to town with 27! I'll take the loss (again, teach me for talking smack) and on top of that I'll lean a little bit more on my gut next week.

Funnily, this week I have had 5 starting players score a combined total of 21 while two players on my bench score 24 and 27 respectively. That hurts! Lol.

Got away with it this week, but in a similar boat with two 20+ scorers on the bench. Was a relatively low scoring fantasy round overall.

@Mearcats Yeah i saw that mate, unlucky. If you start just one of them you get the win over me.. O_O.

@Revraiser this was my highest score of the season with 105! and mearcats scored 93 even with the two monster scores on the bench he mentioned. I'll take more of these low scoring weeks please!

I had a think about what NFL feels like to me and it comes down to this: It feels a lot like I'm playing NRL fantasy but I'm only allowed to pick backs. There are a couple of guys who are consistent, a few blokes who go on streaks and then a heap of other blokes who are up and down from week to week, depending on whether they score or not. There doesn't feel like there is that forwards element.

Archer wrote:@Mearcats Yeah i saw that mate, unlucky. If you start just one of them you get the win over me.. O_O.

@Revraiser this was my highest score of the season with 105! and mearcats scored 93 even with the two monster scores on the bench he mentioned. I'll take more of these low scoring weeks please!

I had a think about what NFL feels like to me and it comes down to this: It feels a lot like I'm playing NRL fantasy but I'm only allowed to pick backs. There are a couple of guys who are consistent, a few blokes who go on streaks and then a heap of other blokes who are up and down from week to week, depending on whether they score or not. There doesn't feel like there is that forwards element.

are you still enjoying it mate?

Welshy wrote:
are you still enjoying it mate?

I'm not sure, I'm less invested in it than I thought I'd be, that's for sure (In that win or loss kind of evokes a "meh" since I don't really feel like I've earned it, I still enjoy the shit talking and banter that goes with all comps). In saying that, on occasion I've watched some of the weekly recaps they have on BBC for the actual games themselves, which is something I hadn't done before. So I'm enjoying that side of it and as much as I dislike how off the mark the experts feel, I enjoy the statistics and analysis that goes into it. Its a welcome change to hearing the "NRL experts" like Gus and Rabs struggle to know the names of players let alone anything about them in the last 12 months.

Archer wrote:

I'm not sure, I'm less invested in it than I thought I'd be, that's for sure (In that win or loss kind of evokes a "meh" since I don't really feel like I've earned it, I still enjoy the shit talking and banter that goes with all comps). In saying that, on occasion I've watched some of the weekly recaps they have on BBC for the actual games themselves, which is something I hadn't done before. So I'm enjoying that side of it and as much as I dislike how off the mark the experts feel, I enjoy the statistics and analysis that goes into it. Its a welcome change to hearing the "NRL experts" like Gus and Rabs struggle to know the names of players let alone anything about them in the last 12 months.

It is tough having to rely on "experts" opinions when you are new to the game mate, keep at it, watch redzone and come back stronger next year haha

Archer wrote:

I'm not sure, I'm less invested in it than I thought I'd be, that's for sure (In that win or loss kind of evokes a "meh" since I don't really feel like I've earned it, I still enjoy the shit talking and banter that goes with all comps). In saying that, on occasion I've watched some of the weekly recaps they have on BBC for the actual games themselves, which is something I hadn't done before. So I'm enjoying that side of it and as much as I dislike how off the mark the experts feel, I enjoy the statistics and analysis that goes into it. Its a welcome change to hearing the "NRL experts" like Gus and Rabs struggle to know the names of players let alone anything about them in the last 12 months.

The other thing I have found is picking a team and getting behind them. Arch - not sure if you follow a particular team, but I've been hanging out on all the Seahawks news this year, and the game today with Arizona was epic!!! I've learned a bit about where players have come from, what they've had to get through and some of the personalities - and it makes it so much more fun to follow. Jimmy Graham is a gun, Pete Carroll is the most positive dude ever (although I haven't watched his post game conference yet - so that should be interesting), and Sherman is quirky as fuck with his dress, hair but still seems to be one of the most articulate sportspeople I've heard!