2017 NRL.com Fantasy thread Part 3

Is it such a terrible idea to start with Smith and Farah and just trade out Farah before origin?

mulvy wrote:Is it such a terrible idea to start with Smith and Farah and just trade out Farah before origin?

Not a bad idea but it is a very expensive idea.

White Lightning wrote:

Not a bad idea but it is a very expensive idea.

You mean in terms of trades, or $

Only in terms of trades. If it pays off the money aspect is irrelevant because you are still getting 2 guns inside your 17. As long as you can adequately fill the rest of your team.

mulvy wrote:

You mean in terms of trades, or $

$1.1m expensive. Mind you I'm not even starting with Smith.

White Lightning wrote:

$1.1m expensive. Mind you I'm not even starting with Smith.

Well then cheap compared Smith/McInnes which is what I was trying to do. Need to consider if it's worth the trades.

lewis9966 wrote:Tried my first no cam smith team of the year.

Mcinnes Peats
Fifita AFB Musgrove 143k
Surgess Mcguire KBrom SMat 143k Stimpson
Norman Johnson Hingano 143k
Idris Olive Kelly Scott
RTS Hayne Holmes Rennings Phythian

with 81k left. i like it but centres very weak. relying on one of them to get a start and score well. could upgrade to whare with spare 81k or move SMat there and get whoever starts in manly 2nd row

- Peats is a gun when playing 80 minutes. However it is likely one of Tyrone Roberts/Kane Elgey will be on the Titans bench and will take up his time. The jump in price to someone like Farah isn't that bad. However again it is uncertain how a Bench Utility will impact his status as a gun.

- At the moment there aren't many cheap FRF's however I am not sure how I rate Zane Musgroves chance to get minutes. I see him starting, but not necessarily playing massive minutes. (50 minutes at most). The one time he played 50 minutes last season he scores 33 points which is around 5 points more than he currently is priced at. Not necessarily a massive jump for a cashcow who is priced at a considerable price above rookie prices. (I could be wrong about Musgrove lots of people have been looking at him. So any reasons why would be appreciated.)

- Regarding the CTR's I would probably go for Whare before trying to pick up a 2RF from Manly when they have J. Trbojevic, and M. Taupau. Then they have someone like Sironen who can play a lot of minutes in the 2RF and score nothing.

Hey Random - I started last year with Zane and he had a great round 1 cant remember what his fantasy score was but very decent but bugger me he broke his hand, when he came back he broke the other hand but played on, I will be starting with him unless I hear rumours of of any injury worries but he is selected in 9,s so must be good to go, was glad he resigned with us good young prospect.( note his last few outings he carried a broken hand )

Aardvark Ratnick wrote:Hey Random - I started last year with Zane and he had a great round 1 cant remember what his fantasy score was but very decent but bugger me he broke his hand, when he came back he broke the other hand but played on, I will be starting with him unless I hear rumours of of any injury worries but he is selected in 9,s so must be good to go, was glad he resigned with us good young prospect.( note his last few outings he carried a broken hand )

He made 43 points in 39 minutes off the bench last season. That is a 15 point difference than what he is priced at. In the first round on average he was making almost a tackle per minute (0.92) which contributed to his higher score. In his last 5 games he was averaging almost half that in tackles per minute (0.56). So unless you put that entirely down to him having a niggling injury when compared to maybe a spike in the first game of the year (Also his debut game) then there is money to be made there.

multiple.scoregasms wrote:Anyone who happens to live on the Central Coast the Berkeley Vale 9's is today. Tigers sent a decent squad last year including Josh Addo-Carr

I'm on the coast, already have plans for the day though

Random wrote:

He made 43 points in 39 minutes off the bench last season. That is a 15 point difference than what he is priced at. In the first round on average he was making almost a tackle per minute (0.92) which contributed to his higher score. In his last 5 games he was averaging almost half that in tackles per minute (0.56). So unless you put that entirely down to him having a niggling injury when compared to maybe a spike in the first game of the year (Also his debut game) then there is money to be made there.

Im getting him as a keeper lol

my tv broke wrote:I like the idea of Musgrove as well, but with the twins + rochow, its hard to see him playing more than 35-40 mins at most

A lot will depend on that starting 17 so any ones guess , we wont know till just before kick off will have some sort of backup plan, just as an aside I hope he starts but most 3rd props are in the same boat and you have to pick someone and I believe in the devil you know.

With the souths and eels byes there's going to be a good pick or two in there somewhere

I'm Def going gurgess just based on such aoemwhere difference between last year and previous years.

Thoughts on rochow, Musgrove, eels props?

I've seen a few teams with Olive in it, will he be starting? I thought Don and Vidot would be the wingers

Dttragic2016 wrote:With the souths and eels byes there's going to be a good pick or two in there somewhere

I'm Def going gurgess just based on such aoemwhere difference between last year and previous years.

Thoughts on rochow, Musgrove, eels props?

Ive got Nathan Brown on my shortlist. Should see good minutes at the eels and obviously has good byes. Could be a player i carry right thru the byes.

Not sure about souths big men in terms of minutes. Assume farah will be 80 min player so no cook on the bench?

Aardvark Ratnick wrote:

A lot will depend on that starting 17 so any ones guess , we wont know till just before kick off will have some sort of backup plan, just as an aside I hope he starts but most 3rd props are in the same boat and you have to pick someone and I believe in the devil you know.

Yeah you could make an argument against any of the mid-range 3rd props around the 200k-300k range so just pick one who you think will do the best & hope it works. You could have a negative argument against for any of these guys as follows:
Gurgess - 302k - will need 50+ mins but will he if he starts on the bench & with the signing of Rochow. Also has he fully recovered from his injury. Many forums have Turgess & Musgrove starting.
J. Wallace - 291k - who will benefit from L. Douglas retirement. Will it be Paasi or Wallace & also R. James could get an increase in mins (60-70 range) which might affect Wallace's mins.
Vete - 289k - what will his mins be like when Matulino returns from injury. I actually quite like him as a pick because there's rumours that Lillyman has picked up a couple of pre season niggles/injuries so Vete could be the no. 1 prop but his mins could revert to the norm once Matulino returns
Kasiano - 253k - weight loss & increased fitness might suggest a bigger role in 2017 for big Sam but then again he might just come off the bench. Tim Browne gone to the Panthers & Eastwood is useless. There appears to be a edge 2fr spot up for grabs so will it be Kasiano, Eastwood or RFM who benefit with more mins.
Fonua-Blake - Lussick out for the first 3-5 rounds but will Kapow move to the middle which makes AFB less appealing.
Musgrove - 237k - I asked on a sc forum about him & the response was "he has brittle bones" & also his mins potential as discussed above. But like AR I quite like him as a pick as he's a very busy player.
Ofahenguae - 236k - with K. Sims signing will he get the mins.
Tim Browne - 228k - now with the Panthers & I think he's picked up an injury. How many forwards has he got to compete with though to even crack the 17.
Matagi - 204k - now with the Eels & rumoured to be starting but he's never really played big mins before at the Warriors & Panthers so is an unknown.

I'm sure there's just as many positives with the above players but there's always a calculated risk when picking a mid range option.
F. Kaufusi - 203k - one of those rumoured to have a chance of getting Proctor's spot & has had time training in the 2fr but the smart money is on K-Brom.

Mighty Fishes wrote:I've seen a few teams with Olive in it, will he be starting? I thought Don and Vidot would be the wingers

Plus you have MacDonald. I think Sarginson has picked up an injury & with Hurrell currently injured although they reckon he'll be sweet for round 1 maybe Olive could get a start due to injuries but I can't see it lasting more than 2-3 rounds if at all.

MacDonald went to the Dragons WL

Theres a lot of talk about players getting increased minutes in the front row, i just cant see it(unless they changed teams and only avg 30min last year). I think teams worked out last year with the new interchange rules that the non elite middle forwards cant play as big as minutes. So unless you were in that top minute tier last year (Graham/Tolman/James/Bromwich/JDB) i think youll most likely avg around 40min

If someone has a break down of props avg minutes last year can they post the top 30?