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    Post by RandomSil Thu Feb 02, 2017 10:39 pm

    Interesting little fact, looks like Fanhub have added a Casualty Ward for your players (At least I assume it is for your players only) As a tab, might have upto date news which would be handy. A nice addition.

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    Post by standard-issue Thu Feb 02, 2017 10:50 pm

    Random wrote:Interesting little fact, looks like Fanhub have added a Casualty Ward for your players (At least I assume it is for your players only) As a tab, might have upto date news which would be handy. A nice addition.

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    Nah mate, that's to list the teams that cop me in H2H Very Happy

    Wow, that's my quota of trash talking for the year.
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    Post by rhinoceroo Thu Feb 02, 2017 10:58 pm

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    same 25's at the moment, decent price when you consider Moylan is at 10s

    Just had a look at the odds. Hayne at 25s tempting. Also a nibble at Cordner at 50s and Munster at 80s, which seem absurdly long. Even Farah at 80s. Not saying it's going to happen (however it's less than 80-1 that it'll happen) but if Souths rebound it'll be because Farah is starring.
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    Post by RandomSil Thu Feb 02, 2017 11:07 pm

    With all the talk re Lamb, have we heard anything back regarding the second test for Mullen?
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    Post by Welshy Thu Feb 02, 2017 11:10 pm

    rhinoceroo wrote:

    Just had a look at the odds. Hayne at 25s tempting. Also a nibble at Cordner at 50s and Munster at 80s, which seem absurdly long. Even Farah at 80s. Not saying it's going to happen (however it's less than 80-1 that it'll happen) but if Souths rebound it'll be because Farah is starring.
    Tedesco decent @28s if he plays a full season and Bryce C
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    Post by Guest Thu Feb 02, 2017 11:40 pm

    Sashamaloo wrote:
    I won't dis you too much as you are great at fantasy and I was stalking you in rankings for much of last year.

    no smith??

    When do you plan to bring him in,
    How many trades will that take,
    Will you really be able to make those trades to get him,
    Who is your captaincy option in the mean time.


    Don't worry this is team is like 37 out of 13276 haha

    The problem is what ive been thinking of is if you don't bring in Smith at the beginning do you wait until after origin that is way too much time to not have him. So really id want to be bringing him in within 5 weeks. But if I have other problems with my team (which I will) he may not be an urgent problem to fix.

    Last year I finished with 8 trades left but again I might not be so lucky this year.
    At the moment I have the big C on Surgess.

    The reason I'm not running with him is that he almost costs as much at Macca and Ballin together who ive gone for. But really Ballin probably wont make enough in 5 weeks to be worth trading out.

    Not having him has allowed me to bring in 3 other players which I think suits my the whole team better.

    Instead of Smith I now have

    McGuire instead of Wallace
    Tturbo instead of Chambers
    and Holmes instead of slater

    The difference of having those other three players might outweight having Smith and three lower players

    Please notice I said might
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    Post by Archer Thu Feb 02, 2017 11:41 pm

    Welshy wrote:
    Tedesco decent @28s if he plays a full season and Bryce C
    Hahahahahahahahahahaha
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    Post by Archer Thu Feb 02, 2017 11:43 pm

    Sorry didn't mean to break up the Smith vs. Non Smith discussion. Good to see it happening, I've done it once and regretted it so I personally don't even consider it an option any more, but I'm glad to see this sort of discussion. Avoids it becoming an echo chamber.
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    Post by Guest Thu Feb 02, 2017 11:46 pm

    Archer wrote:Sorry didn't mean to break up the Smith vs. Non Smith discussion. Good to see it happening, I've done it once and regretted it so I personally don't even consider it an option any more, but I'm glad to see this sort of discussion. Avoids it becoming an echo chamber.


    I probably will puss out and start with Smith
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    Post by Welshy Thu Feb 02, 2017 11:47 pm

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    Don't worry this is team is like 37 out of 13276 haha

    The problem is what ive been thinking of is if you don't bring in Smith at the beginning do you wait until after origin that is way too much time to not have him. So really id want to be bringing him in within 5 weeks. But if I have other problems with my team (which I will) he may not be an urgent problem to fix.

    Last year I finished with 8 trades left but again I might not be so lucky this year.
    At the moment I have the big C on Surgess.

    The reason I'm not running with him is that he almost costs as much at Macca and Ballin together who ive gone for. But really Ballin probably wont make enough in 5 weeks to be worth trading out.

    Its allowed me to bring in 3 other players which I think suits my the whole team better.

    Instead of Smith I now have

    McGuire instead of Wallace
    Tturbo instead of Chambers
    and Holmes instead of slater

    The difference of having those other three players might outweight having Smith and three lower players

    Please notice I said might

    McGuire instead of Wallace - well worth the upgrade

    Tturbo instead of Chambers - not so sure, TTurbos' avg is actually best when he plays CTR. his avg at FB is his season avg 41.5. of course he played on a bum ankle last year so also room for improvement from a young stud like TTurbo, Chambers first half of last season avg was around the 38 mark previous years has been 40, injury then stuggled when he came back, I would have Turbo as a slight adv but purely based on potential

    Holmes instead of slater - Holmes wont go lower than a 30 avg and plenty of scope to turn into an elite FB, again you are guessing he makes the jump though. Slater has averaged in the 40s already . I expect a slight decrease this year even if he avoids injury to around 35 which still makes a lot of cash and decent scores. again you are going for potential over been there done that.

    I like Smith and the latter 3 options
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    Post by Welshy Thu Feb 02, 2017 11:48 pm

    Archer wrote:
    Hahahahahahahahahahaha

    Best FB in the game son.
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    Post by Guest Thu Feb 02, 2017 11:53 pm

    Welshy wrote:

    McGuire instead of Wallace - well worth the upgrade

    Tturbo instead of Chambers - not so sure, TTurbos' avg is actually best when he plays CTR. his avg at FB is his season avg 41.5. of course he played on a bum ankle last year so also room for improvement from a young stud like TTurbo, Chambers first half of last season avg was around the 38 mark previous years has been 40, injury then stuggled when he came back, I would have Turbo as a slight adv but purely based on potential

    Holmes instead of slater - Holmes wont go lower than a 30 avg and plenty of scope to turn into an elite FB, again you are guessing he makes the jump though. Slater has averaged in the 40s already . I expect a slight decrease this year even if he avoids injury to around 35 which still makes a lot of cash and decent scores. again you are going for potential over been there done that.

    I like Smith and the latter 3 options

    Well Chambers was on Greens side so now if Munster is there instead I think Munster will be trying to go a lot more on his own and Cronk will be having a lot more touches this year than last year. That seems to be less opportunities for Chambers

    If Turbo can do that on a gammy ankle imagine what he can do fully fit. Also he is at the price where if he is failing early I can upgrade him to Croker for only about $50k
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    Post by Guest Thu Feb 02, 2017 11:57 pm

    Archer wrote:Sorry didn't mean to break up the Smith vs. Non Smith discussion. Good to see it happening, I've done it once and regretted it so I personally don't even consider it an option any more, but I'm glad to see this sort of discussion. Avoids it becoming an echo chamber.

    The only hookers I would go for if I didn't start with Smith would be Segeyaro (unlikely to sign) or McInnes but he'd have to play 80 mins. Also you'd have to get a 2 guns to mitigate the impact of no Smith.
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    Post by Welshy Thu Feb 02, 2017 11:58 pm

    Mighty Fishes wrote:

    Well Chambers was on Greens side so now if Munster is there instead I think Munster will be trying to go a lot more on his own and Cronk will be having a lot more touches this year than last year. That seems to be less opportunities for Chambers

    If Turbo can do that on a gammy ankle imagine what he can do fully fit. Also he is at the price where if he is failing early I can upgrade him to Croker for only about $50k
    If he fails early mate you are looking at $100,000 to upgrade to Croker, plus the Manly pack might not have the go forward needed for their backs to thrive

    Fair call on Chambers but you are guessing he drops his steady 3 year avg (last year injury affected)
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    Post by Guest Fri Feb 03, 2017 12:07 am

    Sorry I meant fails early in the trails and stuff before round one.

    The thing is with Chambers like all backs he could score 4 tries in the opening two games and make a fair bit of money in the following weeks or.. He could score a 25 and a 30 and lose money. I looked at his missed tackles last year it put me off a bit. Same with Milne I know Milne scored well but there was one game he missed more than he made.
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    Post by Guest Fri Feb 03, 2017 12:13 am

    Welshy wrote:
    If he fails early mate you are looking at $100,000 to upgrade to Croker, plus the Manly pack might not have the go forward needed for their backs to thrive

    Fair call on Chambers but you are guessing he drops his steady 3 year avg (last year injury affected)

    I think T-Trbo is a good pick plus he's a rare dpp. Manly have 5 home games in the first 7 games. Manly are more settled/stronger this year. T-Trbo was basically playing on 1 leg in 2016 & still av 41. He'll be a Tedesco like focal point in attack & should score well even if Manly lose. Manly average 3 tries a games & he'll either score or assist in 1 of them.
    I'm also looking at Moylan. He did extra training over Xmas to improve his explosiveness so this could be promising. The Panthers have a great early draw & he demands the ball in attack so will be heavily involved.
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    Post by Welshy Fri Feb 03, 2017 12:18 am

    White Lightning wrote:

    I think T-Trbo is a good pick plus he's a rare dpp. Manly have 5 home games in the first 7 games. Manly are more settled/stronger this year. T-Trbo was basically playing on 1 leg in 2016 & still av 41. He'll be a Tedesco like focal point in attack & should score well even if Manly lose. Manly average 3 tries a games & he'll either score or assist in 1 of them.
    I'm also looking at Moylan. He did extra training over Xmas to improve his explosiveness so this could be promising. The Panthers have a great early draw & he demands the ball in attack so will be heavily involved.

    Not discounting TTurbo as a bad pick mate I was just pointing out the gap between Chambers and TTurbo might not be that big

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    Post by Guest Fri Feb 03, 2017 12:20 am

    Might try the not starting with Smith this year.. Didn't want to win anyway
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    Post by Guest Fri Feb 03, 2017 12:26 am

    Welshy wrote:

    Not discounting TTurbo as a bad pick mate I was just pointing out the gap between Chambers and TTurbo might not be that big


    Plus Chambers is undervalued due to an injury affected 2016 & is priced at a 30 average. He had a great game in the gf & won't have to put up with ball hog Proctor inside him (no sexual connotations haha). For some reason I've never been a fan of Chambers though.
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    Post by Guest Fri Feb 03, 2017 12:46 am

    Here's my Smith team if Segayaro doesn't sign for the Shark:

    Smith, King
    Fifita, J. Wallace, AFB, Tetevano
    Surgess, Sione M, K-Brom, Hess, Lane/Kennedy, Stimson
    SJ, Gutherson, Mortimer, Hingano
    T-Trbo, Idris, C. Scott, B. Kelly
    Moylan, Hayne, RTS, R. Jennings, Drew

    R. Jennings & Drew probably won't play so they're just placeholders. Scott & Kelly are not certainties either but have a 50/50 chance. K-Brom has to start to be viable. Tetevano (playing in nines) has a good chance to inherit Moa's mins with Butcher injured & with Knight not being named to play in the nines he seems out of the frame. I prefer Kennedy but he'll have to start. Lane good chance to grab a bench spot so will do ok. Mortimer's is an old favourite on mine as has he gives 100% & looks like he has the inside running to start at hooker. He'll play approx 50 mins if he starts so should score 35-45 points & he's priced at an av of 30.
    I wanted Cartwright in my team but it came down to:
    Cartwright & Whare v K-Brom & Moylan & assuming K-Brom starts I see that combo scoring more points. Thoughts & thanks.

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