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    Post by Shanbon Tue Feb 07, 2017 9:22 pm

    I dont think McGregor is that smart but if he had the brains he would copy the Sharks formula

    play Thompson and Frizell for 80 out wide (give them a rest if way up in a game)
    play McInnes for 80 at hooker
    have Mann/McCrone (whoever misses out on 7) as 17th man, but only play them if there is an injury or resting players (Mann allows you to cover 1-7 + 9 by moving McCrone)
    rotate the other 6 big men through the middle with JDB you biggest minute player at lock mainly (like Gallen 65min+ in close or important games) Vaughan is your most destructive guy so play him like Fifita, Packer and Sims = Heino and Prior, Ahmau = Tagatese
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    Post by Welshy Tue Feb 07, 2017 9:25 pm

    Shanbon wrote:I dont think McGregor is that smart but if he had the brains he would copy the Sharks formula

    play Thompson and Frizell for 80 out wide (give them a rest if way up in a game)
    play McInnes for 80 at hooker
    have Mann/McCrone (whoever misses out on 7) as 17th man, but only play them if there is an injury or resting players (Mann allows you to cover 1-7 + 9 by moving McCrone)
    rotate the other 6 big men through the middle with JDB you biggest minute player at lock mainly (like Gallen 65min+ in close or important games) Vaughan is your most destructive guy so play him like Fifita, Packer and Sims = Heino and Prior, Ahmau = Tagatese

    cheers mate some good insight
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    Post by Beast From The Big East Tue Feb 07, 2017 9:30 pm

    Welshy wrote:prospects for Paul Vaughan at the Dragons?

    are you actually asking for opinions after just taking him in the ultimate league draft lol!
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    Post by Welshy Tue Feb 07, 2017 9:30 pm

    Beast From The Big East wrote:

    are you actually asking for opinions after just taking him in the ultimate league draft lol!

    wanted others thoughts mate...DPP and potential for bigger role
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    Post by Beast From The Big East Tue Feb 07, 2017 9:38 pm

    Welshy wrote:

    wanted others thoughts mate...DPP and potential for bigger role

    fair enough haha,

    like others have said I think Vaughan could be a good option at the Dragons but the stacked pack they have doesn't allow for much wiggle room with the current rotation system that McGregor uses. He has a big motor and gets in to do the dirty work, and given he shouldn't decrease in minutes I see him averaging much the same as prior years but there is definitely potential for upside there. The risk is he just swaps a dead fantasy situation for props at Canberra for the same at St George with too many middle range options to share the minutes
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    Post by Welshy Tue Feb 07, 2017 9:41 pm

    Beast From The Big East wrote:

    fair enough haha,

    like others have said I think Vaughan could be a good option at the Dragons but the stacked pack they have doesn't allow for much wiggle room with the current rotation system that McGregor uses. He has a big motor and gets in to do the dirty work, and given he shouldn't decrease in minutes I see him averaging much the same as prior years but there is definitely potential for upside there. The risk is he just swaps a dead fantasy situation for props at Canberra for the same at St George with too many middle range options to share the minutes

    They did pay Vaughan a shed load of $$$ as well mind, hopefully that means increased role Laughing Laughing
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    Post by Guest Tue Feb 07, 2017 9:44 pm

    Welshy wrote:

    wanted others thoughts mate...DPP and potential for bigger role

    What ppm does Vaughan have. I thought it was about 1.00ppm. If he inherits Cooper's mins (50-55) he should score above his av. of 41.0. But there are so many middle forwards at the Dragons he could end up playing 40-45 mins. I'd pass.
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    Post by RandomSil Tue Feb 07, 2017 10:17 pm

    He does have a PPM of 1.01, that is over a 40 minute average. I just struggle to see him playing more than 40-45 minutes.
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    Post by wolfking Tue Feb 07, 2017 10:35 pm

    Random wrote:

    Quick breakdown

    HOK:
    Outside of attacking stats I don't necessarily see Koro making a big amount of cash or stepping to the next level in terms of fantasy. He could end up averaging 5 or so points higher than what he is priced at but I think you are simply investing in a mid-tier guy at a mid-tier price. Just too much of a cost investment for essentially a small amount of a reward.

    FRF: How many minutes is J. Wallace going to get. Last season when he played more than 40 minutes (Discounting the game he scored a try) he averaged a PPM of 0.75ppm. This means he will need 40 minutes on average to keep up his current price tag. However 60 minutes will see him push around 45 points a game, which is a decent upgrade. My problem is I don't see him getting 60 minutes. The Titans have 3 backrowers capable of playing a large amount of minutes. (Though Pulu will earn himself a spot in the 2RF rotation.) He will have Ryan James starting alongside him. The person he is replacing averaged 40 minutes last season (Luke Douglas). I think at best he averages 50 minutes and outside of scoring tries it should bump his score by around 7 points. It makes it a hard pick to justify for mine. Although if you think he will average 60 minutes then he is definitely a solid buy. Daniel Safiti is interesting, if he can push for more minutes this season he is capable of scoring well. He had a PPM of 0.9 last season and only went over 1ppm 3 times and only 1 try in the game. So the guy looks to have solid base stats to keep up the PPM. The only issue is he does seem to miss tackles now and then. Almost 2 per game, but that is something after a full year he may have improved on. With all the changes to the Knights forward pack (Sims brothers departing, Pauli Pauli injury, Robbie Rochow leaving. It opens the door for him to play 50-60 minutes which could result on a score of 40 - 55 point average. (Note: I did what I think is the absolute worst he would score on average under those minutes and what is the best he can look to achieve consistently.) I also think there is no risk as it is likely he will get at least 50 minutes and it is very unlikely his PPM drops below 0.75PPM from his stellar 0.9PPM. Which even with a significant drop wouldn't make him lose cash. Will Tetevano play? They have Carter, Liu, and Evans all presumably above him in the pecking order for a Bench spot and then if they decide to run with a Utility there may not be room on that bench. Also how long is Taukeiaho out for? Either way he is a rookie, if he is named round 1 he is worth a pick up.

    2RF: Klemmer for mine isn't a workhorse 2RF and will be heavily relying on consistent amount of TB's. A bump in minutes could definitely be likely for him, just for mine I don't like the pick but I can see there is potential value in his selection.

    HLF: Moses is an interesting pick. He can be really inconsistent but if he comes out firing to start the year you could see a similar run of form as Mbye had last year. Definitely a guy who could string together a couple 70+ games with a few other high scores to skyrocket his price, and make an easy stepping stone to some of the cheaper and more consistent guns. It is a risk, that has great potential to pay off for you. I am coming around to Lamb more and more. The bloke just likes to kick the ball. I don't believe Mullen's results are back as of yet, but if he is out of the competition and Hodkinson is still struggling with the injury as reported then Lamb becomes an exciting prospect. Very similar to someone like Norman who does like 90% of the kicking in his team. The only concern would be Hodkinson sticking around and taking some of those KM off of him. However that is a small risk considering he is priced below what his lowest score was last season.

    CTR: Starting big with a big BJ. Nice.

    WFB: Nothing really different than anyone else this season. Though you are opting for Uate and as am I. Hoping he strings together a handful of games to make a sizable profit.

    Overall:
    You are talking about moving Moses out for Morts. Personally I would move out Koro for Morts. However I am guessing you are basing that off consistency in which case perhaps a different HLF as well could be a decent option for yourself. That is really the only things I would look at in your squad at changing at this stage. Also FWIW I will chuck up the G. Burgess write up to help you decide whether to grab him.

    It was stated earlier during the preseason that George Burgess is over the niggling injury he carried throughout last season.  However there have been conflicting reports on this, so trail games are essential to gauge where he is at with his injury. If he continues to carry the niggle throughout another season who could very well stay priced exactly where he is at. On the other hand this is a guy who is capable of scoring 60 points off the bench comfortably as he breaks tackles at will. Now he has always been an up and down, somewhat inconsistent player, however it would average out over the year. Last season he averaged 31 points with a niggling injury and before that he averaged 50 points (2015) 49 points (2014) and 48 points (2013). So there is every reason to believe last season was an outlier in a Rabbitohs outfit that had a poor season as a whole. If he is past his injury he should be able to score extremely well no matter the minutes he gets, starting or interchange.

    Thanks Random. This writeup would have taken longer than I took picking this team haha. Interesting views on Koro that I really didn't think of. Was just thinking with Parcell gone, he could be an 80 minute hooker depending on LBrown. He can score tries and is a bit of a workhorse, but swapping to Morts and having that money to splash elsewhere is tempting.

    Wasn't really keen on JWallace, as I don't think he'll get the minutes, not right away anyhow. I am warming to Gurgess after reading that article today too. Blake from Manly is another. Saifiti has the potential, but we'll see come round 1. Again, was lukewarm on the Klemmer pick, just for the reasons you mentioned. Was just an out of field option I was looking at.

    Definitely looking at a gamble with Moses but not many halves really doing it for me, but might upgrade if I do get extra cash. I think Lamb is a good pick if I do say so myself. I think Elgey could be good enough to warrant a starting spot too.

    Thumbs up too by the way.

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    Post by RandomSil Tue Feb 07, 2017 10:44 pm

    Cheers mate, mind posting up the G. Burgess article? Because someone mentioned a Fox thing where he said he wasn't 100% right, but most NRL players aren't.
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    Post by wolfking Tue Feb 07, 2017 10:45 pm

    Speaking of Dragons forwards, I think this Au Mau guy could become somewhat of a fantasy gun............ Laughing
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    Post by RandomSil Tue Feb 07, 2017 10:47 pm

    wolfking wrote:Speaking of Dragons forwards, I think this Au Mau guy could become somewhat of a fantasy gun............ Laughing

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    Post by wolfking Tue Feb 07, 2017 10:47 pm

    Random wrote:Cheers mate, mind posting up the G. Burgess article? Because someone mentioned a Fox thing where he said he wasn't 100% right, but most NRL players aren't.

    http://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-premiership/teams/rabbitohs/nrl-2017-south-sydney-prop-george-burgess-talks-the-hellish-season-2016-that-nearly-broke-him/news-story/c1d90d4833e4714243a3786c7f1a91bc
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    Post by wolfking Tue Feb 07, 2017 10:48 pm

    Random wrote:

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    haha. Fuck I was confident about him last year, like many others. Bang
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    Post by standard-issue Tue Feb 07, 2017 10:51 pm

    I've got Moses as my number 1 half at the moment Wolfy. I feel that is going to change, and I've never owned him, but the 100k saving on the top tier halves is pretty handy.
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    Post by CubanMafiaSandSlugs Tue Feb 07, 2017 10:53 pm

    Hi all. Good to have 'sports economics' back for another year.

    Can I just say, those considering starting with Shaun Johnson - just don't. You'll be able to at some point pick him up for around 350k. So why would you overpay by 134k?

    Every season he has his form slump. A couple of 30-40's in a row and boom - drops 100k. At which point I gratefully pull the trigger.

    Anyway. That's my two bobs worth. Completely unbiased and honest. I'm not here to mislead. Quality over quantity. Yeah yeah whatever Cuban.

    Over and out.
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    Post by Guest Tue Feb 07, 2017 10:55 pm

    Welcome back Cuban. Solid advice and straight to the point - good stuff! How are you travelling with your Fantasy squad so far?
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    Post by standard-issue Tue Feb 07, 2017 10:58 pm

    CubanMafiaSandSlugs wrote:Hi all. Good to have 'sports economics' back for another year.

    Can I just say, those considering starting with Shaun Johnson - just don't. You'll be able to at some point pick him up for around 350k. So why would you overpay by 134k?

    Every season he has his form slump. A couple of 30-40's in a row and boom - drops 100k. At which point I gratefully pull the trigger.

    Anyway. That's my two bobs worth. Completely unbiased and honest. I'm not here to mislead. Quality over quantity. Yeah yeah whatever Cuban.

    Over and out.

    Get ya League code up for this year mate Very Happy

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    Post by wolfking Tue Feb 07, 2017 11:01 pm

    SI wrote:I've got Moses as my number 1 half at the moment Wolfy.  I feel that is going to change, and I've never owned him, but the 100k saving on the top tier halves is pretty handy.  

    My thoughts exactly SI. With guys like DCE, SJ and Hunt having inconsistent years, Moses could produce the same or better at a better price. I've never owned him but he looked good at the end of the year. If he can get his defence in order, he could be a real threat.

    I also back what Cuban says about SJ. I got him in mid season and was so happy the next three weeks he pumped out 50+ scores, but they all had tries. When he got into his form slump, he was so fucking frustrating to watch. He has the ability to get the ton more often than not, but his abilty to go missing in games when the Warriors are behind is just inexcusable IMO.
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    Post by outbak Tue Feb 07, 2017 11:26 pm

    thoughts on Buhrer?

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