Ultimate Footy

wolfking wrote:I'm fine with making the time less than 12 hours, but you have the whole night time period where if it's 3 hours, it might screw with people that always make sure they get online for their pick.  If you get what I'm saying.

If everyone agrees we could change it to 3 hours per pick between 8am and 8pm? That way you can still make picks outside that time if it is your turn but the clock wouldn't run donw

Bren wrote:

Now you understand why not many trades are made. Everyone has their own personal opinion on the players hence why they select them in the draft. I have found in the past that when trading everyone is looking to get the upper hand in the draft (you would be stupid to trade for less) so finding the right balance and a fair draft trade is sometimes extremely hard. Or you could make a tactical move such as quicksand and hoard hookers and force those without a quality hooker to trade so they have a decent point scorer in that position.

Something i didn't really think about before, but should have - how the "League as a whole" value a player. For example, I don't rate Hayne as high as the majority on here (I'll definitely grab him for NRL fantasy for cash, but for a draft, I'm just no convinced he will average out as a gun), i should therefore have picked him up because people would be more willing to trade, and i could grab someone others see less valuable (but i see as better or equal) while using their valuation against them to pick up an extra.

Also, looking at that draft, my money is on The Secret Weapons, whoever that is. Rapa, Smith, Friz, Kata. Stop the fight ref

Bren wrote:

Now you understand why not many trades are made. Everyone has their own personal opinion on the players hence why they select them in the draft. I have found in the past that when trading everyone is looking to get the upper hand in the draft (you would be stupid to trade for less) so finding the right balance and a fair draft trade is sometimes extremely hard. Or you could make a tactical move such as quicksand and hoard hookers and force those without a quality hooker to trade so they have a decent point scorer in that position.

Its not just that. People also overvalue what they already have.

eg you might think Merrin and De Belin are equally good fantasy players and pre-draft not care which one you get. But once you've picked one of them, he'll suddenly become the better player in your eyes.

So even people can propose trades which you might have though acceptable pre-draft, but once it involves giving up something you own, you become a lot more reluctant.

multiple.scoregasms wrote:

If everyone agrees we could change it to 3 hours per pick between 8am and 8pm? That way you can still make picks outside that time if it is your turn but the clock wouldn't run donw

Boom. Problem solved. Do it. Go on, do it.

BroncHose wrote:

Boom. Problem solved. Do it. Go on, do it.

Need the rest of the league to agree aswell

Archer wrote:Also, looking at that draft, my money is on The Secret Weapons, whoever that is. Rapa, Smith, Friz, Kata. Stop the fight ref

You might change your mind when you find out who it is

Bren wrote:

You might change your mind when you find out who it is

I'd like to plead the trump on this one thanks, it was late, a Friday, i shouldn't have been posting.

Milchcow wrote:
eg you might think Merrin and De Belin are equally good fantasy players and pre-draft not care which one you get. But once you've picked one of them, he'll suddenly become the better player in your eyes.

JDB > Merrin.

I may or may not be saying this just because I picked him in the draft

With the RFA, we definitely agreed last year that it should be reverse draft order.

Archer wrote:

Something i didn't really think about before, but should have - how the "League as a whole" value a player. For example, I don't rate Hayne as high as the majority on here (I'll definitely grab him for NRL fantasy for cash, but for a draft, I'm just no convinced he will average out as a gun), i should therefore have picked him up because people would be more willing to trade, and i could grab someone others see less valuable (but i see as better or equal) while using their valuation against them to pick up an extra.

I did something like this when chosing Fifita. Everyone has him number 2 but I consider him on par with a few other players. If I could get one of those players + any upgrade somewhere else its an easy choice

I'd take Merrin over JDB, think it was a good example for that reason.

My Ultimate team is starting to look a whole lot like my NRL Fantasy team

Especially with Idris and SMat in my CTRs.

Bren wrote:My Ultimate team is starting to look a whole lot like my NRL Fantasy team

Especially with Idris and SMat in my CTRs.

SMat was my next pick, didn't think many would be into him for Ultimate... Should've known better with a Panda lurking! Now time to adjust a thought process...

Archer wrote:Also, looking at that draft, my money is on The Secret Weapons, whoever that is. Rapa, Smith, Friz, Kata. Stop the fight ref

I have already engraved my name on the trophy

B/L wrote:

I have already engraved my name on the trophy

You don't get a trophy. You do however get a shitty certificate...

Bren wrote:

You don't get a trophy. You do however get a shitty certificate...

But I get one right? in lieu of appearance money................

Aardvark Ratnick wrote:

But I get one right? in lieu of appearance money................

Sure..

Update on L3 draft for anyone interested
Pick Player Team
1.1 (1) Cameron Smith The Wombles
1.2 (2) Andrew Fifita Death From Above
1.3 (3) Jake Friend The Gumbies
1.4 (4) Sam Burgess Russ's Team
1.5 (5) Ryan James Muthaiga Lions
1.6 (6) Simon Mannering Last Tribe
1.7 (7) Jack De Belin Frank's Underwoods
1.8 ( Adam Reynolds The Aadvarks
2.1 (9) Josh Hodgson The Aadvarks
2.2 (10) James Graham Frank's Underwoods
2.3 (11) Andrew McCullough Last Tribe
2.4 (12) Paul Gallen Muthaiga Lions
2.5 (13) Johnathan Thurston Russ's Team
2.6 (14) Trent Merrin The Gumbies
2.7 (15) James Tedesco Death From Above

multiple.scoregasms wrote:Update on L3 draft for anyone interested
Pick Player Team
1.1 (1) Cameron Smith The Wombles
1.2 (2) Andrew Fifita Death From Above
1.3 (3) Jake Friend The Gumbies
1.4 (4) Sam Burgess Russ's Team
1.5 (5) Ryan James Muthaiga Lions
1.6 (6) Simon Mannering Last Tribe
1.7 (7) Jack De Belin Frank's Underwoods
1.8 ( Adam Reynolds The Aadvarks
2.1 (9) Josh Hodgson The Aadvarks
2.2 (10) James Graham Frank's Underwoods
2.3 (11) Andrew McCullough Last Tribe
2.4 (12) Paul Gallen Muthaiga Lions
2.5 (13) Johnathan Thurston Russ's Team
2.6 (14) Trent Merrin The Gumbies
2.7 (15) James Tedesco Death From Above

So it's only L2 that had no interest in Macca