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    2017 NRL.com Fantasy Thread Part 6

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    Post by Spectre Fri Feb 17, 2017 4:07 pm

    my tv broke wrote:

    do you think he'll start? Seems that Sue has been training right edge, Lawrence would presumably have left edge sewn up. Aloiai biding his time from the bench until next season perhaps

    If Sue plays on the edge who will be in the prop rotation? Tigers are pretty thin in that department
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    Post by my tv broke Fri Feb 17, 2017 4:13 pm

    Spectre wrote:

    If Sue plays on the edge who will be in the prop rotation? Tigers are pretty thin in that department

    Woods + Ava starting, Tim Grant + JJ Felise/Edwards/one of the rookies being talked up for a spot.

    Woods
    Hooker
    Ava
    Lawrence
    Sue
    Taylor

    Hooker
    Aloiai
    Grant
    JJ Felise/Edwards/Marsters/Eisenhuth/etc
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    Post by Shanbon Fri Feb 17, 2017 4:16 pm

    filthridden wrote:

    I almost just convinced myself to switch Peats to Luke but I didn't realise he's already priced at $460k.
    Thought he had a mixed bag of a season last year and am surprised he averaged 48.
    Can't see him averaging more than 50 although it looks like Kearney wants 80mins out of him which is always a plus.

    Personally think he's about $30k overvalued.

    Im hoping he plays close to 80min. I just think with that spine its going to create a lot of opportunities for him attacking wise
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    Post by SoylentGreen Fri Feb 17, 2017 4:18 pm

    filthridden wrote:

    On last year's averages I'm hitting 716. Obviously as with most people, I am expecting a lot of my players to improve their averages:

    Sironen - 27
    Ese'ese - 17
    ET - 42
    Lamb - 38
    SiMat - 32
    RTS - 33
    Hayne - 25

    etc etc

    That's what i was wondering - I would always be looking at last years averages as the minimum you'd expect from any players you pick (otherwise why pick them).
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    Post by Spectre Fri Feb 17, 2017 4:27 pm

    my tv broke wrote:

    Woods + Ava starting, Tim Grant + JJ Felise/Edwards/one of the rookies being talked up for a spot.

    Woods
    Hooker
    Ava
    Lawrence
    Sue
    Taylor

    Hooker
    Aloiai
    Grant
    JJ Felise/Edwards/Marsters/Eisenhuth/etc

    That's a terrible rotation. No grunt/go forward whatsoever when Woods gets taken off for a rest
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    Post by my tv broke Fri Feb 17, 2017 4:43 pm

    Spectre wrote:That's a terrible rotation. No grunt/go forward whatsoever when Woods gets taken off for a rest

    hey its not my opinion, just going off what i have read (that sue has been training at right edge).

    woods and grant made up for 105 mins of prop rotation last year, add Ava (avg 41 mins) and you get 146 out of 160 mins to go round at prop covered.
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    Post by SoylentGreen Fri Feb 17, 2017 4:45 pm

    Milchcow wrote:

    Just because other people have rubbish teams doesn't mean you have to follow suit.

    Its not having Phythian in your 17 that is itself the problem. Its that if Phythian is in your 17 that means you almost certainly have 2 rubbish players in your WFB NPRs. Its going to make it hard for you to make money, and provides no flexibility to handle injury/suspension

    If Phythian gets dropped or produces rubbish scores its going to take you 2 trades to fix it. And whatever week you fix that up it means you won't be able to fix any other issues with your squad.

    Good points. Because I value your bovine opinion, would something along these lines be reasonable?

    Smith, Hodgson,
    Daifiti, Gurgess, Ese Ese, Perrett
    Surgess, McGuire, ET, Wallace, Sironen, Winterstein
    Norman, Lamb, Elgey, Hingano
    SMat, Idris, Scott, Kelly
    Holmes, RTS, Hayne, Phythian, Rennings
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    Post by Milchcow Fri Feb 17, 2017 4:47 pm

    Spectre wrote:

    That's a terrible rotation. No grunt/go forward whatsoever when Woods gets taken off for a rest

    Its not like Sue will improve it massivley.

    Seumanufagai improved a lot last year (FOr the Tigers, not necessarily in fantasy) and Grant is solid enough. But another prop option would be a big help.
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    Post by Shanbon Fri Feb 17, 2017 4:49 pm

    SoylentGreen wrote:

    Good points. Because I value your bovine opinion, would something along these lines be reasonable?

    Smith, Hodgson,
    Daifiti, Gurgess, Ese Ese, Perrett
    Surgess, McGuire, ET, Wallace, Sironen, Winterstein
    Norman, Lamb, Elgey, Hingano
    SMat, Idris, Scott, Kelly
    Holmes, RTS, Hayne, Phythian, Rennings

    This is a nicely balanced team. Youll be hoping, like me, a heap of mid rangers pay off
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    Post by Chewie Fri Feb 17, 2017 4:53 pm

    No Worries wrote:A week ago when I mentioned Siro everyone was telling me he wouldn't start. Now you all have him in your side. Bunch of Lemmings
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    Post by my tv broke Fri Feb 17, 2017 4:53 pm

    I keep looking at Holmes in my WFB's and thinking its a waste of money but I dont want to A) spend any more on the position, or B) take any of the cheaper options.

    its him or roll the dice on french picking up heaps of attacking stats.
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    Post by Milchcow Fri Feb 17, 2017 5:01 pm

    SoylentGreen wrote:

    Good points. Because I value your bovine opinion, would something along these lines be reasonable?

    Smith, Hodgson,
    Daifiti, Gurgess, Ese Ese, Perrett
    Surgess, McGuire, ET, Wallace, Sironen, Winterstein
    Norman, Lamb, Elgey, Hingano
    SMat, Idris, Scott, Kelly
    Holmes, RTS, Hayne, Phythian, Rennings

    In terms of allocation of cash, rather than specific players, i think that is much better.

    You have a much better ability to cater for somebody flopping (and if Phythian ends up going great guns, you can easily play him in your team)

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    Post by my tv broke Fri Feb 17, 2017 5:06 pm

    that latest team of Soylents is incredibly similar to my squad.
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    Post by SoylentGreen Fri Feb 17, 2017 5:08 pm

    my tv broke wrote:I keep looking at Holmes in my WFB's and thinking its a waste of money but I dont want to A) spend any more on the position, or B) take any of the cheaper options.

    its him or roll the dice on french picking up heaps of attacking stats.

    Likewise - Kahu's really the only other player in the 200-300k range I'd consider, but I think that's an even riskier proposition (does have DPP though)
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    Post by SoylentGreen Fri Feb 17, 2017 5:11 pm

    my tv broke wrote:that latest team of Soylents is incredibly similar to my squad.

    I've had 18 of those players in pretty much every draft - it's the last 7 that are doing my head in.
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    Post by my tv broke Fri Feb 17, 2017 5:12 pm

    SoylentGreen wrote:

    Likewise - Kahu's really the only other player in the 200-300k range I'd consider, but I think that's an even riskier proposition (does have DPP though)

    yeah agree. i've considered him, the DPP is an incentive. also the goal kicking will hopefully add some consistent points. Always worried about him getting hurt though, but i guess you shouldnt plan for injuries. He does seem to be over his problems.. Problem is he's not the type of player to explode with a tonne of TB's, or crab across field racking them up. He's the player who will put his body on the line with a hard run straight into the defense but it doesn't equate to fantasy points. Might get a few Try Assists tipping on to Oates though Very Happy
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    Post by Haste Fri Feb 17, 2017 5:22 pm

    Hey guys first time posting (except for in the registration thread)

    Here is my first draft I would love some feedback on:

    Smith, Pritchard
    McGuire, Gurgess, Ese'ese, Hoare
    JDB, Mannering, Surgess, Smata'utia, Wallace, Stimson
    Norman, Lamb, Elgey, Hingano
    Kahu, Scott, Idris, Kelly
    RTS, Hayne, Slater, Rennings, Phythian

    Depending on Slater playing or not, I may downgrade him to Uate and upgrade Kahu to Chambers.


    Thanks guys Smile and keen to get to know you all over the season!
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    Post by standard-issue Fri Feb 17, 2017 5:31 pm

    Haste wrote:Hey guys first time posting (except for in the registration thread)

    Here is my first draft I would love some feedback on:

    Smith, Pritchard
    McGuire, Gurgess, Ese'ese, Hoare
    JDB, Mannering, Surgess, Smata'utia, Wallace, Stimson
    Norman, Lamb, Elgey, Hingano
    Kahu, Scott, Idris, Kelly
    RTS, Hayne, Slater, Rennings, Phythian

    Depending on Slater playing or not, I may downgrade him to Uate and upgrade Kahu to Chambers.


    Thanks guys Smile and keen to get to know you all over the season!

    Someone who knows what they are doing will look at your team, I'm just the welcoming committee.
    So welcome!

    Ps actually had a look and that is a ridiculously strong second row!
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    Post by RandomSil Fri Feb 17, 2017 5:34 pm

    Haste wrote:Hey guys first time posting (except for in the registration thread)

    Here is my first draft I would love some feedback on:

    Smith, Pritchard
    McGuire, Gurgess, Ese'ese, Hoare
    JDB, Mannering, Surgess, Smata'utia, Wallace, Stimson
    Norman, Lamb, Elgey, Hingano
    Kahu, Scott, Idris, Kelly
    RTS, Hayne, Slater, Rennings, Phythian

    Depending on Slater playing or not, I may downgrade him to Uate and upgrade Kahu to Chambers.


    Thanks guys Smile and keen to get to know you all over the season!

    Hey mate, firstly cheers for registering in the NRL Fantasy Leagues thread. I just added your entry.

    Now onto your team..

    HOK: Pritchard should be money if there is no Bench hooker. Will that change things for you if there is?

    FRF: No problems here until TLT.

    2RF: Really, really strong 2RF looks sweet. Going to post my Wallace thoughts though. How many minutes is J. Wallace going to get. Last season when he played more than 40 minutes (Discounting the game he scored a try) he averaged a PPM of 0.75ppm. This means he will need 40 minutes on average to keep up his current price tag. However 60 minutes will see him push around 45 points a game, which is a decent upgrade. My problem is I don't see him getting 60 minutes. The Titans have 3 backrowers capable of playing a large amount of minutes. (Though Pulu will earn himself a spot in the 2RF rotation.) He will have Ryan James starting alongside him. The person he is replacing averaged 40 minutes last season (Luke Douglas). I think at best he averages 50 minutes and outside of scoring tries it should bump his score by around 7 points. It makes it a hard pick to justify for mine. Although if you think he will average 60 minutes then he is definitely a solid buy. Also the Titans have confirmed they are in talks with Grevmuhl who could impact on the likelihood of Wallace playing more than 40 minutes.

    HLF: Decent starting HLF pair and nothing wrong with the rest of it.

    CTR: I actually like Kahu's potential a little more than I do Chambers if he has GK'ing. Either way running light here isn't a big deal.

    WFB: Slater looks more and more likely out and I don't like the idea of running Uate or any of your other backs. However you have a 1 in 3 shot of hitting someone decent enough to play in your 17 starting out. So it could be worse.

    Overall: I don't much like the Wallace pick, or the 3rd WFB slot but that is the sacrifice you are making for an otherwise incredibly balanced and stacked team. The only other issue is the risk in the HOK position. Which I am sure you are already aware of.

    Edit: You are also the 400th member to register on the forums. So cheers mate, good to have you here.


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    Post by filthridden Fri Feb 17, 2017 5:36 pm

    SoylentGreen wrote:

    That's what i was wondering - I would always be looking at last years averages as the minimum you'd expect from any players you pick (otherwise why pick them).

    Smith, Fifita, Tedesco etc ---> You pick them and you're not worried because they're set and forget and average still much higher than everyone else even if their average drops a few points.

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