2017 NRL.com Fantasy thread part 9 - TLT edition

Welshy wrote:

Playing wing though? Barba at the back all last year surely he adds a few points playing in the No.1

I'm talking about his games at FB albeit 2015 68, 18, 8, 39. With Guth dpp I could easily bring him in when back

Loomer wrote:

Had Holmes for ages and dropped before said he was out.  Too many yo yo scores and seems priced accordingly

Yo yo scores on the wing and priced to reflect that, now at fullback which should lead to more consistent scores and he's a young guy who should continue to develop.

Wing scores are typically yo yo scores because they're so dependent on scoring tries.

Goondalf wrote:

Do you think he will be there after this game?

Where does Beale move to when Holmes is back? If Lee keeps his spot then Beale may move to the bench like last years GF

Brailey won't be 80m hooker though will he? Mortimer could come in for Brown I guess

Loomer wrote:

I'm talking about his games at FB albeit 2015 68, 18, 8, 39. With Guth dpp I could easily bring him in when back

Eh 2015 he must have been what 19? and very small sample size.

Regulator wrote:

Yo yo scores on the wing and priced to reflect that, now at fullback which should lead to more consistent scores and he's a young guy  who should continue to develop.

Wing scores are typically yo yo scores because they're so dependent on scoring tries.

The yo yo scores I refer to were at FB in 2015. See above

Norman, SJ or Cleary? Like Norman for byes.

Vestid wrote:Which of these guys are worth the risk?

Musgrove, Matagi, Afoa, Bateman, FKaufusi

As much as I love Bateman I get the feeling the coach change at the warriors will be huge for a player like big Bunty. I'm afraid not to go with him tbh. Can see him steamrolling the Knights

Loomer wrote:

The yo yo scores I refer to were at FB in 2015. See above

I don't think "priced to reflect that" is based on his 4 games at FB as a teenager in 2015.

Liverpool_Bulldog wrote:Is Brailey a must have with the lack of good cash cows?

If he was anywhere but hooker then he'd be an autopick.

Hooker is a valuable position though. Even if Brailey does well (and I'm putting a 35 average as doing well), you'll probably still need to find $150-200k to upgrade him at some point.
And if he doesn't do well - you are stuffed.

If McInnes/McCullough fire early like Friend last year - will you be able to get them in to take advantage of it if you have Brailey?

Vestid wrote:Norman, SJ or Cleary? Like Norman for byes.

12 weeks to deal with single players like Norman for byes. I think the other 2 will have considerable amount more points by the time origin comes around so either of them

GreenMachine wrote:

12 weeks to deal with single players like Norman for byes. I think the other 2 will have considerable amount more points by the time origin comes around so either of them

Far point. I worry about SJ as I have a perception he always starts slow, but don't have stats to back it up. Also, not sure how TMM will impact Cleary.

Feel like this is the best team I can field with the approach I want to take. Not happy with the FRF/2RF bench but what can you do. Anything glaringly bad I'm missing?

HOK Smith, Brailey (R)
FRF Wallace, Fifita, Leota, F Kaufusi (R)
2RF JDB, Mannering, ET, Yates, Winterstein, Siro (R)
HLF Moses, Elgey, Lamb (R), Hingano
CTR Idris, Sione, Talakai, Kelly
WFB Guth, RTS, Hayne, Cotric, Phythian

Loomer wrote:

I'm talking about his games at FB albeit 2015 68, 18, 8, 39. With Guth dpp I could easily bring him in when back

i mentioned this RE holmes a few threads back, but the score of '8' was that game where it was absolutely bucketing down in cronulla, the one where there was dudes in wetsuits/snorkel gear at the ground and at times the rain was so bad it was hard to see the players on the field.

its probably a score you can just straight up ignore.

GreenMachine wrote:

12 weeks to deal with single players like Norman for byes. I think the other 2 will have considerable amount more points by the time origin comes around so either of them

I agree. Its too early to be talking about byes etc and selecting players based on if they play round x or not.

Regulator wrote:

Eh 2015 he must have been what 19? and very small sample size.

It's a larger sample size than the people picking him are using.

Rippin and Tearin wrote:But if he is still plagued by ongoing injuries (as at least one report suggested and his #20 jumper suggests) then it would stand to reason he continues on at ~30 pg and should no longer be considered "undervalued"

Seems like a big risk to hold him at this stage anyway.

pretty much this.

he's named to play for Norths (obviously that it not set in stone though), but of note is that 18. Burns and 19. Crichton are not named in nsw cup, whereas George and Cherrington are.

is it ongoing injury concerns? or is the coach unhappy with his application? the latter seems unlikely unless there is something we don't know.

there was plenty of rumour that george was struggling all preseason - then out of nowhere there was an article saying "he was back to full fitness". then we saw him in the charity shield and frankly he looked pretty good to go. its a bit of a mystery. maybe madge is fed up with the lack of ball control.

Im interested in peoples thoughts about starting sides and CTs.

Risk v Reward sort of analysis on options.

Option 1. Starting with 4 cheapies. Idris, Cotric, Talakai, Kelly etc.

Reward, it frees up cash to improve areas that are more consistent scorers.
Reward: Potential to make money
Reward: They wont lose money, which gives you time to identify who is a better buy if you got it wrong.
Risk: They fail. Cost trades and time to get team back to strength.
Risk: Slow start

Option 2: mix of cheap and expensive.
All of the above risks and rewards and:

You pay 350K+ for a centre i.e Walker Turbo.

Reward: they may be a set and forget, make 40+ a week don't lose cash. saves trades.
Risk: they tank, lose money and cost you a trade.

Option 3

Go for proven scores in CT. Croker.

There is no croker for 6 weeks, refer to option 2 and 3.


What are people weighing up when choosing their CT oprions

Here's my latest and greatest...

Smith, McInnes
Graham, DSaifiti, Kaufusi, Papalii
Surgess, ET, Wallace, Sironen, Yates, Stimson
Norman, Lamb, Elgey, Hingano
Smat, Idris, Kelly, Cotric
Hayne, RTS, Gutherson, Pythian, Fogarty

18k in the bank, but plenty of options to downgrade if more cash is needed
I probably run with Hingano as my 4th reserve instead of Kaufusi for round 1

Not as heavy in the backrow as some other teams, but I'm running with McInnes at Hooker and SMat in the Ctrs

Fortitude wrote:Im interested in peoples thoughts about starting sides and CTs.

Risk v Reward sort of analysis on options.

Option 1. Starting with 4 cheapies. Idris, Cotric, Talakai, Kelly etc.

Reward, it frees up cash to improve areas that are more consistent scorers.
Reward: Potential to make money
Reward: They wont lose money, which gives you time to identify who is a better buy if you got it wrong.
Risk: They fail. Cost trades and time to get team back to strength.
Risk: Slow start

Option 2: mix of cheap and expensive.
All of the above risks and rewards and:

You pay 350K+ for a centre i.e Walker Turbo.

Reward: they may be a set and forget, make 40+ a week don't lose cash. saves trades.
Risk: they tank, lose money and cost you a trade.

Option 3

Go for proven scores in CT. Croker.

There is no croker for 6 weeks, refer to option 2 and 3.


What are people weighing up when choosing their CT oprions

I did option 1 last year, paid for it, and told myself I was doing option 3 this year. With all the cheap CTRs this year I've gone option 2.

Re Gurgess I feel its just a fitness issue due to a slow preseason due to said injury, dont think he is up to speed - nothing more nothing less is my take on it.