2017 NRL.com Fantasy thread part 18

Welshy wrote:
Good to know Rabs! Gurgess to cut into Musgroves minutes mate?

Gurgess only played 29 minutes last round, but changed the game. He'll be playing 40 soon, so someone's minutes are going to get chopped. Musgrave is a good prospect though, so he should hold down his spot. Not sure of his minutes. George is better off the bench imo. It's a big reason why we won in 2014. I don't know why Madge started him after that. It all went downhill. Glad to see Tyrell gone.

So is the general feeling about the Cowboys prop rotation is that Hoare is the one most likely to benefit in the long term? Obviously Hess has quick cash to make, Faufusi has a low ppm, and to me Taumololo might actually get less minutes if he is moved into scotts position? Although would they put him in there? given he has started good and already takes enough hit ups.

None of these cash cows this week look tempting at all this week.  Maybe just Talakai to Abbey to bank the cash.  Looks like I'm stuck with Cartwright too.  Norman out just makes me want to skip this week and move to round 4.  Team I'll be running if I don't trade;

Smith Brailey
Fifita Wallace Musgrove Yates
Surgess Cartwright SMat Sironen Kaufusi Winterstein
Lamb Elgey Norman Jacks
Moga Kelly Idris Talakai
RTS Turbo Cotric Suli Hayne

Any thoughts?  Would like to run both Cotric and Suli but don't have the DPP option unless I cash out Talakai.  Don't trust either Moga or Kelly this week.

Showbags wrote:So is the general feeling about the Cowboys prop rotation is that Hoare is the one most likely to benefit in the long term? Obviously Hess has quick cash to make, Faufusi has a low ppm, and to me Taumololo might actually get less minutes if he is moved into scotts position? Although would they put him in there? given he has started good and already takes enough hit ups.

My question is...why was Faufusi in the 17 until Scott's injury and Hoare wasn't? I don't go with the consensus. I think Green rates him higher.

Rippin and Tearin wrote:

Im still using the old magic number (9475) but based on that and 2 scores of 45 he will be at 384k. and by week 13 he will have reached his peak at 425k (~420 by rnd 8 for what its worth).

Another scenario is that he hits 45 for 2 weeks and then averages 30 from there on out in which case he peaks at 391k after round 5 and then goes on a steady decline. I guess that scenario (or something similar) is what people are a bit worried about.

Please correct my numbers /  methods if needed

This justifies my Trade in of ET to Hess. If Hess for the next week can jag at least 60 minutes on an edge (will be more confident if named to start now lolo is out) I can't see him scoring less than 45. So say I sell him in round 4/5 for $390K I bank $76K now for similar scores, I gain a quick $70K (which I can't really guarantee from Abbey, Montoya, Hoare, Paufusi, Stimson, Capewell, Ese ese, Edwards, Ponga and I do a direct trade to Whitehead/BThompson/JBrom/Cartwright if it all turns to shit. Otherwise he just beasts it and jags the starting spot over lowe, or 1 of lowe/cooper get injured and he has the fulltime gig. Not much risk because even with a 30 score he will still make close to 30K this week.

Abbey/Montoya - would rather wait a week and watch these two. Won't lose out too much cash watching for a week.
Hoare - prefer to watch this week, and if I can wait would rather wait two weeks and see the team once lolo is back. With Fensom floating around I fail to see how he gets more than 20-25 minutes.
Paufusi - Frankensteins brother - is a trap and poor PPM. Will gain 50K at best from here and be a very slow burn (better options elsewhere as is already 44K above minimum price. Expect around 25 average)
Stimson - J Bromwich back this week or next probably means he's only going to get 20-25 minutes on an edge, but also V Leuluai might get the nod week about depending on opposition. Good player and can break a tackle.
Capewell - Would imagine he won't be playing this week due to at least 1 of Holmes/Beale to come back into the side, Bird back to centre etc. Hope he doesn't play as is a good cash out option for origin once some cows peak.
Ese Ese - benefited from Gillett's injury, likely to be back playing less than 35 minutes (played 48), lots of hit up metres from dropouts and kickoffs, won't break 4 tackles vs Storm, and will miss a lot of tackles like usual. Be surprised if he scored more than 25 this week.
Edwards - same scenario as Capewell, with DWZ/Hiku named in 21 if he plays again will probably only be 1 game. Good player but think Hook goes with DWZ and Whare personally.
Ponga - two games is probably not worth it but could carve up against Manly and Titans, if you had him you would be happy to play him but not worth bringing in if you don't.
Tyrone Roberts Davis - next best option to Robert Jennings but because he is a winger for a team in disarray I probably won't go with him. Titans have Eels (H), Cowboys(H), Warriors(A), Raiders(H), Broncos (A), Sharks (A). Dear me, Elgey has to go!!!!!!!

I am rolling the dice with Rennings, Souths should win again against knights so I expect him to be there for at least another two games. Has got DPP as well. He is the future and think he moves better laterally than Talakai so doesn't get caught out as much on defense. Probably there until Gray gets back at least.

I would sit and watch Cowboys and Bulldogs this week then pull the trigger next week if you like what you see. Go Robert Jennings if you need a cash cow back for now. And if you need a cash out option in the forwards this week, at least Capewell will play first two byes.

So is Abbey a better option than TRD? Am i being blinded by the negative BE at 138k?

Rabbit wrote:

My question is...why was Faufusi in the 17 until Scott's injury and Hoare wasn't? I don't go with the consensus. I think Green rates him higher.

Yeah i think this is definitely the case. People are searching for something in Hoare because he showed to have a high PPM in the past. He won't get the minutes.

Finch wrote:I havent watched much Manly this year, Hows Uate going? I can see him making another 100K

He looks pretty solid in my opinion, and should average 30+ without much trouble.

Warriors wrote:

This justifies my Trade in of ET to Hess. If Hess for the next week can jag at least 60 minutes on an edge (will be more confident if named to start now lolo is out) I can't see him scoring less than 45. So say I sell him in round 4/5 for $390K I bank $76K now for similar scores, I gain a quick $70K (which I can't really guarantee from Abbey, Montoya, Hoare, Paufusi, Stimson, Capewell, Ese ese, Edwards, Ponga and I do a direct trade to Whitehead/BThompson/JBrom/Cartwright if it all turns to shit. Otherwise he just beasts it and jags the starting spot over lowe, or 1 of lowe/cooper get injured and he has the fulltime gig. Not much risk because even with a 30 score he will still make close to 30K this week.

My problem is that IF Hess starts I would trade him in, but I cant see anyway to make that trade knowing for sure that he will actually start....can you?

When do they cut the team down to 19 again? Perhaps things will be a little clearer then?

Rippin and Tearin wrote:

My problem is that IF Hess starts I would trade him in, but I cant see anyway to make that trade knowing for sure that he will actually start....can you?

When do they cut the team down to 19 again? Perhaps things will be a little clearer then?

Officially, it has to be done by Friday 8pm (BNE TIME) (given a Saturday 8pm game). I think the Cows have been pretty good at announcing their revised squad a little earlier in the afternoon though.

Rippin and Tearin wrote:

My problem is that IF Hess starts I would trade him in, but I cant see anyway to make that trade knowing for sure that he will actually start....can you?

When do they cut the team down to 19 again? Perhaps things will be a little clearer then?

19 24 hours before, final 17 1 hour before kickoff.

Rippin and Tearin wrote:

21k and 2 trades last week - brought in Wallace and Suli for Maloney and Paufusi....

Man that's bad luck on PK. I'll have a look at your team now.

Rippin and Tearin wrote:Hey guys,

Wondering what you would do with this team:

Cam, Brailey
McGuire, Wallace, Faufusi, Leota
Surgess, JDB, Kromwich, Smat, Siro, Yates
Cleary, Norman, Elgey, Fogerty
BKelly, Dalker, Talakai, Idris
RTS, Suli, Cotric, Jayne, Python

Issues as it stands are:
Elgey will be in my starting team
Leota appears dead weight
Talakai not looking very productive either
Python out
and overall lack of depth at C/WFB due to other injury issues.

Thoughts?

You have so many red dots and normally you could try fix that this week but that means playing Elgey and most likely Lamb gets out of range. I would find a d/g for kromwich and upgrade to Lamb. Next week python

Rippin and Tearin wrote:

My problem is that IF Hess starts I would trade him in, but I cant see anyway to make that trade knowing for sure that he will actually start....can you?

When do they cut the team down to 19 again? Perhaps things will be a little clearer then?

ET plays after Hess so I have the option. Problem is that waiting means I can only do 1 trade of Hayne to Rennings this week as Bulldogs and Titans have already played. So would miss Abbey, TRD and Montoya. And all other players apart from Idris I would consider trading would be locked in, but then all my trade options and DPP would be too. So I will make a judgement call but Hess against Blake Green , Frankenstein and Kelly should at least rack up some tackle breaks in 55 minutes off the bench (should still score 30 points).

Needs to be another button next to the BYE DETECTOR button that turns on the DAY + TIME + GAME NUMBER OF ROUND on each of your players so you can easily see a layout of who plays first/last, etc (and also shows it on the players in the trade window on right)

I'm finding trades hard this week and none of the game times seem to suit potential trades.

At this stage I am leaning closest to Hayne -> Rennings and just waiting to see how the rest pans out. I've still got Moeroa but Hess just doesn't appeal to me as much as he does to others. I think if you're buying Hess you're banking on him scoring more tries (which he probably will continue to do), but I still view him as a 35pt on average player.

Welshy wrote:
Abbey gets 4-6 weeks then all Sundays when Hoppa goes on his missions R8, R11, R13 more than enough time to make some cash, plus may get goalkicking duties and in a half decent backline with plenty of pack go forward, I think he goes well

Last article I read was that Hoppa may have to play Sunday's as it was only last year they approved and the club coach and supposedly players weren't happy he missed a final

Rabbit wrote:

Gurgess only played 29 minutes last round, but changed the game. He'll be playing 40 soon, so someone's minutes are going to get chopped. Musgrave is a good prospect though, so he should hold down his spot. Not sure of his minutes. George is better off the bench imo. It's a big reason why we won in 2014. I don't know why Madge started him after that. It all went downhill. Glad to see Tyrell gone.

Gurgess copped a rib injury did he not?

Shanbon wrote:

Last article I read was that Hoppa may have to play Sunday's as it was only last year they approved and the club coach and supposedly players weren't happy he missed a final

Did they? Hopefully Abbey impresses enough they don't have to worry about Hoppa playing Sunday then because he will be dropped

my 1st trade this week was Phythian to R.Jennings. (leaving 9k in the bank).
to get more in the bank, my 2nd trade will be Gallen to Hess. (now have 207k)

my plan is in round 5/6 to go;
F.Kafusi + 100k to J.Brom
Siro + 100k to Bodene

and then 'hopefully' downgrade Hess to Whitehead and use any money left over to upgrade Buhrer to Surgess/Gallen

is this a sound plan ?

quicksand wrote:my 1st trade this week was Phythian to R.Jennings. (leaving 9k in the bank).
to get more in the bank, my 2nd trade will be Gallen to Hess. (now have 207k)

my plan is in round 5/6 to go;
F.Kafusi + 100k to J.Brom
Siro + 100k to Bodene

and then 'hopefully' downgrade Hess to Whitehead and use any money left over to upgrade Buhrer to Surgess/Gallen

is this a sound plan ?

2 or even 3 of Whitehead J Brom and BT is who I'm targeting over next few weeks