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    2017 NRL.com Fantasy Thread Part 30

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    Post by Mulvy Wed Apr 12, 2017 9:48 pm

    wolfking wrote:

    That's what I was leaning towards mate, thanks.  Musgrove to Crichton really isn't losing anything except a small amount of coin but could have amazing upside.  I really like Musgrove but way more potential in Crichton obviously.  I'm pretty cold on Hampton too.  Think it's a trap and he'll be back on the bench in a week or two.

    I don't think Hampton's a trap, just a risk as I've outlined earlier. Could still make 100k from now, just needs mid 40's over three weeks which he could get, but you would then need to trade him out otherwise then loses money and crap AE unless our woes continue. I can see the appeal especially if you need a trade out, but I already did it with Frawley last week!
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    Post by Welshy Wed Apr 12, 2017 9:49 pm

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    I was keen when he was playing in the middle. Even if he had 50 mins a week making tackles he would earn good cash. But there is no guarantee he will perform in the halves which can be a much tricker position to score well in. What if he scores in 20 for 3 weeks? Terrible job security outside his normal bench role, and he is not a good player for byes, will become a terrible ae if he doesn't make the cash and I have already taken enough failed chances on failed cows like Abbey. I need a sure thing.
    Half is probably the easiest position to get points in because of extra ways to get points i.e KM

    usually focal point of attack near goaline, a 15-25 tackle range and decent RM
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    Post by Mulvy Wed Apr 12, 2017 9:53 pm

    Welshy wrote:
    Half is probably the easiest position to get points in because of extra ways to get points i.e KM

    usually focal point of attack near goaline, a 15-25 tackle range and decent RM

    Here's hoping his kicking is good, Morgo has been terrible but hopefully he steps it up.
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    Post by Finger Puppet Mafia Wed Apr 12, 2017 9:55 pm

    Welshy wrote:
    Green has put Hampton at half because JT is injured and its his natural position, Leary isn't a half so isn't playing there and Coote who would of slipped into the position is injured

    seems fairly simple to me, if Green like Leary more than Hampton at hooker then why didn't he start him there last week?

    Agree. At the very least Hampton is a cash out option that can score you some points and potentially be viable over orign. Got him last week and happy so far. People expecting him to set the world on fire. He came in under 150. It is what it is and if he can bang out 3 or 4 good scoes over the season in certain rounds when you need coverage then thats gold.
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    Post by Pookus McFly Wed Apr 12, 2017 9:57 pm

    Welshy wrote:
    Half is probably the easiest position to get points in because of extra ways to get points i.e KM

    usually focal point of attack near goaline, a 15-25 tackle range and decent RM

    It's also a very easy position to do a lot of work that goes unnoticed by fantasy. Before the previous game at hooker he had only made one tackle break as a "super sub", and no other attacking stats. So he needs to tackle his ass off (which can be tricky if he is further out in the defensive line) or dominate the kick metres. I have no assurances he will do either. Perhaps he will, or maybe he finds his attacking game, and he will be a great pickup. But perhapses doth butter no parsnips.
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    Post by luckynumber8 Wed Apr 12, 2017 9:58 pm

    I know the rule is to not trade guns out but Merrin? Thoughts on him? Trading him to Crichton would allow me to trade Lamb to Reynolds/Norman.
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    Post by Mulvy Wed Apr 12, 2017 9:58 pm

    Chewie wrote:Smat talk: If Smat didn't get the double HIA the other week (which automatically sidelines you for the rest of the game)... And if he did get the try last weekend, his scores would look more promising. He's not a fantasy dud or a trap. No rush to trade him out unless you need the money to upgrade to a better option like Crichton. I've got Smat in the CTR and will probably trade him out once Idris has earned my confidence. Meanwhile I hope he'll have some good games

    Actually can someone fill me in on the double HIA? I was driving (like I said on holidays) and from what I could gather on the radio, the first one was for something like being kicked in the head with the football from a kick and there were suggestions they may have been rorting the Hia rule only for it to backfire when he actually was hit in the head in a tackle. I could be waayyyyyyy off here, anyone remember?
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    Post by Welshy Wed Apr 12, 2017 10:00 pm

    Pookus McFly wrote:

    It's also a very easy position to do a lot of work that goes unnoticed by fantasy. Before the previous game at hooker he had only made one tackle break as a "super sub", and no other attacking stats. So he needs to tackle his ass off (which can be tricky if he is further out in the defensive line) or dominate the kick metres. I have no assurances he will do either. Perhaps he will, or maybe he finds his attacking game, and he will be a great pickup. But perhapses doth butter no parsnips.
    Coming off the bench is a different role to starting in a different position obviously mate, he isn't coming off for the pine for 15-20 minutes and expected to manage the game like he will be now.

    Worthy risk IMO
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    Post by Pookus McFly Wed Apr 12, 2017 10:01 pm

    luckynumber8 wrote:I know the rule is to not trade guns out but Merrin? Thoughts on him? Trading him to Crichton would allow me to trade Lamb to Reynolds/Norman.

    You only lose the money if you trade him. Do you think he will come good?- even if it is over another 3-4 games?. He is a season keeper, I do not doubt that. But if you need to fix something elsewhere quite badly, sometimes it is cathartic just to ditch their lazy ass.
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    Post by Chewie Wed Apr 12, 2017 10:02 pm

    Pookus McFly wrote:

    wise old wookie speaks coulda woulda shouldas.
    Thus endeth the lesson.

    Haha just giving my opinion... I'm still a padawan fantasy player... still a way to go before reaching elite Jedi status
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    Post by luckynumber8 Wed Apr 12, 2017 10:04 pm

    Pookus McFly wrote:

    You only lose the money if you trade him. Do you think he will come good?- even if it is over another 3-4 games?. He is a season keeper, I do not doubt that. But if you need to fix something elsewhere quite badly, sometimes it is cathartic just to ditch their lazy ass.

    I do believe that he can get back to gun status eventually but he is a glaring hole in my side at the moment. It could backfire and Crichton could turn out to be a trap but I guess I would have turned Lamb into a 50+ half..
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    Post by Welshy Wed Apr 12, 2017 10:06 pm

    luckynumber8 wrote:

    I do believe that he can get back to gun status eventually but he is a glaring hole in my side at the moment. It could backfire and Crichton could turn out to be a trap but I guess I would have turned Lamb into a 50+ half..
    Technically you are swapping Merrin for a gun half and giving Crichton a chance to become a gun himself so could get 2 guns for 1 if Crichton sticks on the edge
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    Post by Pookus McFly Wed Apr 12, 2017 10:06 pm

    Welshy wrote:
    Coming off the bench is a different role to starting in a different position obviously mate, he isn't coming off for the pine for 15-20 minutes and expected to manage the game like he will be now.

    Worthy risk IMO

    I guess I really just see this as Morgans moment to step up and run the show. Thurston won't be around forever. I Predict a classic non-dominant half 20-30 score for Hampton who knows his old role on the team is safe and doesn't need to do anything outstanding to try and keep the current position. Maybe this should be in the big calls thread
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    Post by luckynumber8 Wed Apr 12, 2017 10:08 pm

    Welshy wrote:
    Technically you are swapping Merrin for a gun half and giving Crichton a chance to become a gun himself so could get 2 guns for 1 if Crichton sticks on the edge

    That sounds like a gamble I would like to take, Welshy. Very Happy
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    Post by Pookus McFly Wed Apr 12, 2017 10:08 pm

    Chewie wrote:

    Haha just giving my opinion... I'm still a padawan fantasy player... still a way to go before reaching elite Jedi status

    All good mate, I thought the advice was solid! Playing what-could-have-been has definitely softened my stance on SMat. Mainly because I still think that it was a try!!!
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    Post by Mulvy Wed Apr 12, 2017 10:09 pm

    luckynumber8 wrote:

    I do believe that he can get back to gun status eventually but he is a glaring hole in my side at the moment. It could backfire and Crichton could turn out to be a trap but I guess I would have turned Lamb into a 50+ half..

    It's tough. Like I posted a few weeks ago, I like many others had Merrin last year, started crap and against sound advice from those in here I traded him out the week before he went large (83?). I'm looking at trading him at some stage but in the mean time yeah the money elsewhere would be good.....
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    Post by Klemhammer Wed Apr 12, 2017 10:11 pm

    What should I be doing with Musgrove? Is he a trade out ahead of Kbrom or Bkelly?
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    Post by luckynumber8 Wed Apr 12, 2017 10:13 pm

    mulvy wrote:

    It's tough. Like I posted a few weeks ago, I like many others had Merrin last year, started crap and against sound advice from those in here I traded him out the week before he went large (83?). I'm looking at trading him at some stage but in the mean time yeah the money elsewhere would be good.....

    I feel like I did the same thing last year too and yet I didn't learn this year.. He just looks so slow and disinterested. Doesn't even look for the offload.
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    Post by Mulvy Wed Apr 12, 2017 10:15 pm

    luckynumber8 wrote:

    I feel like I did the same thing last year too and yet I didn't learn this year.. He just looks so slow and disinterested. Doesn't even look for the offload.

    Yep. That's the guy!
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    Post by standard-issue Wed Apr 12, 2017 10:16 pm

    Klemhammer wrote:What should I be doing with Musgrove? Is he a trade out ahead of Kbrom or Bkelly?

    Unless I run into real problems, I'll keep him through byes. Will take the 100 he scores me in the big bye rounds and then cash him ousside Round 19ish. Selling him earlier I don't anticipate will really change my team enough to lose the bye points. BUT, I am a heavy bye planner.

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