2017 NRL.com Fantasy Thread Part 31

Liverpool_Bulldog wrote:

GreenMachine wrote:

Team is sound mate but you're excited to release an AE in Elgey, but replaced by the looks with Hampton?

One of the biggest AE traps in the game Hampton, unless you have some insta trade plan in 3 weeks

High score of 22pts in first 5 rounds looks about his level in that side when JT and Granville back

Great backrow though btw

Finch wrote:

FWIW: I've just said to myself to trust my gut on every trade, throw caution to the wind etc. I'm sure my luck will change eventually but Im going good so far being ranked around 600 odd, with 28 trades left and $300K odd ITB.

I got on TPG before his first price rise, Crichton the week he was named to start, Frawley 2 weeks ago, pus there have been a couple of others I think (I didn't get on Hess, my biggest fail yet this year). So I got everyone for basically their cheapest price, all because I took some risks. I also didn't make a single trade until round 3.

Basically what I'm trying to say is, take some risks, don't need to play it safe every single week and following the crowd. What if Frawley doesn't start this week, but he does next week? Are you going to bring him in then? If you bring him in this week, and the majority of people don't you are 1 step ahead of everyone. Dont apply this to just Frawley, apply it to any player in the future.

While people are trading out Elgey, Suli, Kelly, Talakai etc etc, I did it the week before. The biggest disadvantage here is that you miss out on 7-10k (Price rise when players peaked) but you are 1 step ahead of everyone, so to speak. I see people talking about bringing in Graham etc next week, while I'm doing it this week, because I've already sold player X that they are selling this week.

OnTheLast wrote:Anyone skipping one of the halfs for Mr T the bulldogs cheapie Frf?

wolfking wrote:Could I have a second set of eyes here on what I'm doing?  Does this make sense and am I am thinking ahead sensibly?  This is my team;

Smith Brailey
Fifita Wallace Musgrove Yates
Surgess Bodene Hess Siro Kaufusi Winterstein
Norman Lamb Jacks Elgey
SMat Turbo Kelly Idris
RTS Ponga Slater Cotric Suli

53K ITN with 28 trades

My goal is to get Walker in for Lamb but want Crichton this week.  Am going Jacks to Frawley (as I think he will start in the future and like him better than the likes of Hampton, Niko etc.) which nets me 123K.  Going Musgrove to Crichton would leave me with 101K.  Leaving Musgrove for byes and trading Yates instead leaves me with 55K.  Then looking at the gap between Walker and Lamb only having the 55K really limits my downgrade abilities next week to fund it.  Someone like Suli or Kelly won't make enough whereas having 101K it would be a simple downgrade for either of those two.  Finding the extra 50K might mean I have to downgrade the likes of Siro instead which I don't want to do just for the sake of holding Musgrove.

So while I'd like to hold Musgrove for the byes, fixing my halves which is a higher priority, it's going to leave me stuck I think.  So am I right for getting rid of Musgrove over Yates in this situation?

Thanks lads.

Beast From The Big East wrote:Is Whitehead actually worth it? Yes he is undervalued, but isn't a season long keeper and only plays 1 of the major bye rounds. I understand the appeal, but if you are starting to be plan while also keeping trades in mind then perhaps someone like JBrom who plays the last two, or Gallen/Graham who play the first two are much better targets. JBrom represents similar value and has much more chance of being in your final 17 if he picks his shit up, while both Gallen and Graham while are an expensive outlay, they provide elite level scoring for 2 bye rounds and are season long keepers

wolfking wrote:Could I have a second set of eyes here on what I'm doing?  Does this make sense and am I am thinking ahead sensibly?  This is my team;

Smith Brailey
Fifita Wallace Musgrove Yates
Surgess Bodene Hess Siro Kaufusi Winterstein
Norman Lamb Jacks Elgey
SMat Turbo Kelly Idris
RTS Ponga Slater Cotric Suli

53K ITN with 28 trades

My goal is to get Walker in for Lamb but want Crichton this week.  Am going Jacks to Frawley (as I think he will start in the future and like him better than the likes of Hampton, Niko etc.) which nets me 123K.  Going Musgrove to Crichton would leave me with 101K.  Leaving Musgrove for byes and trading Yates instead leaves me with 55K.  Then looking at the gap between Walker and Lamb only having the 55K really limits my downgrade abilities next week to fund it.  Someone like Suli or Kelly won't make enough whereas having 101K it would be a simple downgrade for either of those two.  Finding the extra 50K might mean I have to downgrade the likes of Siro instead which I don't want to do just for the sake of holding Musgrove.

So while I'd like to hold Musgrove for the byes, fixing my halves which is a higher priority, it's going to leave me stuck I think.  So am I right for getting rid of Musgrove over Yates in this situation?

Thanks lads.

SI wrote:

Skipping Whitehead for now personally. My 2RF is allready full of 'riskier' players in regards injury/job security/in game injury real life centre options.

Fisho wrote:I've been avoiding looking at fantasy all week as I've had no clue where to begin haha! But I've finally got what I think will be my final trades for this week.

Buhrer out/ Whitehead in
B.Kelly out/ Holmes in

Holmes is averaging around 18pt from just run meters alone. A few attacking stats per game on top of that and I believe he could be a cut-price keeper.

My 2RF is starting to look like a mess.. I've decided to sit on Taylor for a while. Last 2 games he's had an increase in minutes with roughly 75 minutes. Plus I don't expect any more games where gets 10 miss tackles!

Mezza is a concern but I'll maintain my faith... and the Halves problem is a real thing but I have Elgey to fill the void if needed. I'll be hoping Carty plays this week so his price can start falling and hopefully have him come in around Rd 10. (Or once his BE levels out)

Smith, Cook(R)
McGuire, JWallace, Faufusi(R), Yates
Surgess, JDB, Merrin, ET(R), Whitehead(R), CHN
Norman, Jacks, Elgey, Fogerty
Cotric, Idris, Suli, RJennings
RTS, Slater, Holmes, Abbey, Phythian

SI wrote:

I've been over this 3 times and can't find a simple answer, haha. Both have merit but at least the Buhrer news has increased Yates chances of making a bit more coin. I understand that is not part of your equation, but maybe softens the blow of trading a bye player.

Buuuuuuuutttt...with your position this year, wouldn't you be more suited to chasing big rank jumps over byes than that 50k?

Beast From The Big East wrote:

Suli and Kelly look to have peaked so clearing at least one of them out next week is a plus, as does the potential for Yates to squeeze out a bit more money given the Burher injury news from today.

Then it boils down to Siro + Walker vs Musgrove + Walker. While having Musgrove would be the nice for the bye rounds, an important thing to think about is that it isn't like some teams play more games in the season or anything. Between now and the end of round 19 Musgrove and Siro will barring injury play the exact same amount of games. The difference comes with can you cover them when they are on byes. If you kept Siro, do you have someone who will play to limit the loss in points that Musgrove would make for the first two bye rounds, in addition you will get Siro's points for when Musgrove would be on byes so they too go towards cancelling out the bye factor. Siro probably has a little bit of price rises in him left, while Musgrove has probably levelled out .

Beast From The Big East wrote:

SI wrote:

Skipping Whitehead for now personally. My 2RF is allready full of 'riskier' players in regards injury/job security/in game injury real life centre options.

Yea that's what I'm thinking too. Stuck waiting at an airport so doing some bye planning and realised that Whitehead isn't all that valuable beyond being underpriced. Wanted JBrom for the exact same reason as well as being handy for 2 byes and saw that the only way I could bring Whitehead in as well as JBrom would mean no Gallen unless Surgess received DPP before round 12 and I'd rather have Gallen than Whitehead and not have to rely on both Madge putting Surgess into the frf on team sheets but also fanhub doing their job

wolfking wrote:

Thanks mate.  I've always thought that about the bye's.  I think people seem to think that teams are more advantaged in bye's just from what rounds they play.  I remember a lot of us did a lot of bye planning last year and from week to week things came up and those plans always most of the time got thrown out the window.  Thanks for the response, but I'm leaning towards Musgrove to make upgrading Lamb easier next week.  I could do a double trade next week and get Walker the week after, but again that could very well be a short term loss.

Beast From The Big East wrote:Is Whitehead actually worth it? Yes he is undervalued, but isn't a season long keeper and only plays 1 of the major bye rounds. I understand the appeal, but if you are starting to be plan while also keeping trades in mind then perhaps someone like JBrom who plays the last two, or Gallen/Graham who play the first two are much better targets. JBrom represents similar value and has much more chance of being in your final 17 if he picks his shit up, while both Gallen and Graham while are an expensive outlay, they provide elite level scoring for 2 bye rounds and are season long keepers