2017 NRL.com Fantasy thread part 41

Mchomie wrote:Long time lurker, first time post!

Anyhow, whats everyone's opinion on Ponga? is he a sell? he still has abit more money to make? i just feel coote is so frail and could get injured anytime?

Whats everyones opinions on the best WFB for the way home? Munster, Walker and Tedesco?

Welcome mate. If I didn't have other problems I'd probably sell him this week, but it isn't urgent unless you need a player in his place. Coote is quite injury prone so unless you desperately need his spot and cash, I'd still hold for a little bit. Green has made it pretty clear he doesn't want to play Ponga so really, a Coote injury is the only way he's getting back in.

Those three looking good, others are Turbo when fit, Nofo, Rapa still guns too and are PODs. I like Mansour if he can get back into it.

Feeling the pitch of fantasy. Down to 16 trades and not happy with where i want my team to be at this stage of the tournament.

Have decided to be more h2h focus meaning the less eels/souths players i have, the better.

Trades this week:
FKaufusi > NBrown
Elgey > Munster

16 trades left, 162k ITB

Here's my team, thoughts?

Mchomie wrote:Long time lurker, first time post!

Anyhow, whats everyone's opinion on Ponga? is he a sell? he still has abit more money to make? i just feel coote is so frail and could get injured anytime?

Whats everyones opinions on the best WFB for the way home? Munster, Walker and Tedesco?

Sorry mate I forgot to answer your 2nd question. If your talking on the way home meaning after the byes from round 20 I would go with Munster but probably all 3 is what you should be aiming for. My strategy is getting Walker round 12, Munster round 13 & Tedesco round 20.

Mchomie wrote:Long time lurker, first time post!

Anyhow, whats everyone's opinion on Ponga? is he a sell? he still has abit more money to make? i just feel coote is so frail and could get injured anytime?

Whats everyones opinions on the best WFB for the way home? Munster, Walker and Tedesco?

The question you have to ask yourself is whether or not Ponga is a keeper. The likely answer is no, because you can't rely on someone else's injury/form to determine whether or not someone might become a keeper.

Therefore he was always going to be a sell. The question becomes when to sell. If you need the cash or upgrade now then do it. If you want to hold him for a bit longer then there isn't anything wrong with that either.

Mchomie wrote:Long time lurker, first time post!

Anyhow, whats everyone's opinion on Ponga? is he a sell? he still has abit more money to make? i just feel coote is so frail and could get injured anytime?

Whats everyones opinions on the best WFB for the way home? Munster, Walker and Tedesco?

He's not a must-sell but he is a lot of money to be tied up in your NPRs, especially over the bye rounds if you're playing overall and not h2h.

I sold him only because Norman went down and I wanted to hold Norman over Ponga.

You're right, Coote could go down but if there are no injuries for 3 weeks, 6 weeks, 9 weeks... how long would you hold him while he doesn't play? Each week will potentially cost you points with money you could've spent bringing in another keeper.

filthridden wrote:

He's not a must-sell but he is a lot of money to be tied up in your NPRs, especially over the bye rounds if you're playing overall and not h2h.

I sold him only because Norman went down and I wanted to hold Norman over Ponga.

You're right, Coote could go down but if there are no injuries for 3 weeks, 6 weeks, 9 weeks... how long would you hold him while he doesn't play? Each week will potentially cost you points with money you could've spent bringing in another keeper.

Ditto to this.

I've said it before, but roughly speaking every 100k on the sidelines is 10 points u r missing out on.

Like others have said, he aint an urgent sell, but I'd be getting him out as soon as you can and using the funds to invest in an upgrade and therefore put as much $ on the park as possible.

SI wrote:Just with the Kapow discussion-isn't he more like a low 40's player when he plays backrow?  If he stays at prop then that's a win, but I personally can't entertain a poor byes player at the moment.  I hope it works out Loomer, good to see the risk taking.

I have decent bye numbers and 20 trades left. It's a calculated risk to move from 315 to closer to the top. Even if it doesn't work out I think I can back out down the line

Gday fellas, been offline for a few days.

I'm tempted to hold Kaufusi and sell Musgrove instead to bring in Graham, thoughts?

Where does Musgrove stand ie will he play RND 12? Will he be much use to me anyway? Kaufusi has really had one bad game but if he gets the starting spot back next week he may be worth holding on to. Thoughts?

Will still have Norman sitting there collecting dust.

Loomer wrote:

I have decent bye numbers and 20 trades left. It's a calculated risk to move from 315 to closer to the top. Even if it doesn't work out I think I can back out down the line

In your situation I'd probably do the same thing mate. Go with your gut & follow your instincts. The only thing that could slow down Taupau's scoring is if he's moved back to the 2fr but while he remains in the middle he'll be a great purchase.

my tv broke wrote:Gday fellas, been offline for a few days.

I'm tempted to hold Kaufusi and sell Musgrove instead to bring in Graham, thoughts?

Where does Musgrove stand ie will he play RND 12? Will he be much use to me anyway? Kaufusi has really had one bad game but if he gets the starting spot back next week he may be worth holding on to. Thoughts?

Will still have Norman sitting there collecting dust.

Yes I would definitely sell Musgrove before F. Kaufusi.

White Lightning wrote:

Yes I would definitely sell Musgrove before F. Kaufusi.

Yep its a good point. Kaufusi has been pretty solid all season and while he probably wont put in back to back 70s again he may still return to being a starting player and pump out reasonable scores. It seems like a no brainer to keep someone who (should/could/will return to being) a starting 2rf. Musgrove could very well be a red dot again come next week (or even this week if the team is shuffled as usual).

May just leave them alone for now as Graham does have a high BE and just do Norman -> Johnson. (already have AREY).

Does anyone think there could be a swap on Sunday with Kaufusi back starting moving Stimpson to the bench?  I think it could be Bellamy just putting a scare in Kaufusi maybe?

wolfking wrote:Does anyone think there could be a swap on Sunday with Kaufusi back starting moving Stimpson to the bench?  I think it could be Bellamy just putting a scare in Kaufusi maybe?

I was thinking this literally two mins ago. Could very well be. May just be a rev up for training through the week.

wolfking wrote:Does anyone think there could be a swap on Sunday with Kaufusi back starting moving Stimpson to the bench?  I think it could be Bellamy just putting a scare in Kaufusi maybe?

This is completely plausible. Also even if they run out as named I can't really see Stimson getting that many mins & I'd say Kaufusi will still play reasonable mins.

my tv broke wrote:Gday fellas, been offline for a few days.

I'm tempted to hold Kaufusi and sell Musgrove instead to bring in Graham, thoughts?

Where does Musgrove stand ie will he play RND 12? Will he be much use to me anyway? Kaufusi has really had one bad game but if he gets the starting spot back next week he may be worth holding on to. Thoughts?

Will still have Norman sitting there collecting dust.

I guess you need to run some numbers on how much value he could lose over the next 2 games? He's obviously getting reduced minutes this week (and has a high BE) but it remains to be seen if this week he is just getting a rocket up him and therefore whether or not he will be back to an 80 minute role from rnd 13 on (he has a bye in 12)?

Once you know the worst case valuation loss over the next 2 games, then it might be easier to make a call. But its gonna take until at least rnd 13 before you have any more clarity on his long term roll and even then there's an ongoing and increased risk in him being benched again. In the mean time you would have to carry him (and all that tied up cash on the sidelines).

I havent run the numbers but my hunch is he is a sell. Bringing in Graham for him now and then having that extra cash to use seems like that is a better bet than taking the punt he gets his 80 minute roll back. If you can go Musgrove to Graham now as an alternative, then you there $170k you could use to upgrade someone else next week (not to mention the 50k that Im guessing Kaufusi will devalue by come rnd 13)?

Its a bugger because as an 80 minute guy he was going to be a real asset for the bye rounds!

Hope that helps somewhat

F. Kaufusi has been very good for the Storm this year & apart from last week he's been one of their most consistent performers. He just had an off day & sure he made a few errors but apart from that he was having a busy game with a high work rate. I think it's just a case of Bellamy giving him a reality check so he doesn't get too far ahead of himself.

rhinoceroo wrote:

SI wrote:Just with the Kapow discussion-isn't he more like a low 40's player when he plays backrow?  If he stays at prop then that's a win, but I personally can't entertain a poor byes player at the moment.  I hope it works out Loomer, good to see the risk taking.

He actually averaged more as a 2rf than a frf last year, iirc. He's a tackle buster wherever he plays, but in the second row he's more of a threat to score tries. Not sure it matters because Manly using him a front row this year and it's going well for them and him. The ONLY thing that'd stop me getting him in after 15 is that he's a constant suspension risk with his love of the shoulder charge.

Oh ok. I didn't go back and check, might go have a look.

White Lightning wrote:F. Kaufusi has been very good for the Storm this year & apart from last week he's been one of their most consistent performers. He just had an off day & sure he made a few errors but apart from that he was having a busy game with a high work rate. I think it's just a case of Bellamy giving him a reality check so he doesn't get too far ahead of himself.

Yeah you might be right. But there's risk in all of that. I didnt realise his BE was still quite low (I had previously only looked at his BE in VSDT which is massive this week). That mitigates the risk a bit but the fact that you probably wont get a heap of clarity until after he plays 13 is the concern for me. Unless of course you guys are right and Bellamy is just fuckin with everyone and he starts this week regardless of the team naming.

White Lightning wrote:F. Kaufusi has been very good for the Storm this year & apart from last week he's been one of their most consistent performers. He just had an off day & sure he made a few errors but apart from that he was having a busy game with a high work rate. I think it's just a case of Bellamy giving him a reality check so he doesn't get too far ahead of himself.

Rippin and Tearin wrote:

Yeah you might be right. But there's risk in all of that. I didnt realise his BE was still quite low

Kaufusi's BE is 55. Unless he scores a try, he doesn't put up those 50+ scores

Do you think I should trade Ponga to Munster or MWZ?

Love Munster, but the cash out of MWZ is so appealing. Would mean playing Hayne in starting WFB though.

Planning on holding Kaufusi this week, hoping its just Bellamy playing mind games.