2017 NRL.com Fantasy thread part 60

Someone needs to go. I have an itchy trade finger

Fortitude wrote:the only thing it serves is a reminder that you can get away with late swing arms, as long as you don't knock them the fuxk out.

In the tigers eels games, brooks put a late shoulder into Moses fave after a kick in first half. But because it didn't injury him, no one cares

this is my issue with the whole thing. the reaction only comes when there's an injury. there is no consistency. as you said, you can do what you want, if the other player doesn't wind up injured.

could mean nothing, but:

Cronk: "Hopefully we have Cameron and Billy available. If they aren't, we have depth which the #Origin period showed"

Smith can't be too bad unless Cronk is just playing games with us.

my tv broke wrote:

this is my issue with the whole thing. the reaction only comes when there's an injury. there is no consistency. as you said, you can do what you want, if the other player doesn't wind up injured.

To be honest if Slater gets straight up I wouldn't have scrutinised the replay. We also would've have had so much down-time in the game to see the replay so many times. Penalty given and we all move on.

However with an injury like what happened to Slater, the NRL SHOULD be looking at incidents like that.
We should be asking "what went wrong? Why did this happen? Is there anything we need to change in our rules so that we can minimise the chance of this happening again?" but don't be reactive in terms of punishment based on the injury - set a new precedent that everyone is aware of and communicate it out so that we don't see players copping heavy knocks to the head like that, or at least not so often.

I think 6 weeks is too much for Soli. Hard done by.

Chewie wrote:6 weeks for Soliola...

a bit harsh, but it serves as a warning for others for dishing out late tackles

Wait, the judiciary isn't until tonight...

Liverpool_Bulldog wrote:Someone needs to go. I have an itchy trade finger

I believe there are tablets you can buy that will stop the itchy finger.

Moose wrote:

I believe there are tablets you can buy that will stop the itchy finger.

I'm out of pills. I used them all before Rd11

Any news on if Graham is back this week?

filthridden wrote:

Wait, the judiciary isn't until tonight...

yep, not final yet, let's see what his lawyer can come up with

So the gradings of the charge Soliola is up against are (including 20% loading for his priors);

Dangerous Contact (Head)
Grade 1 - 100 base, 120 points
Grade 2 - 250 base, 300 points
Grade 3 - 400 base, 480 points
Grade 4 - 550 base, 660 points
Grade 5 - 700 base, 840 points

At 6 weeks off, it's effectively a grade 4 without the possibility of an early guilty plea. It could even be considered to be less because I don't think he'll keep 60 carry over points from a direct, ungraded referral.

Which begs the question... what do you have to do to earn a grade 5? Jesus.

Isn't Grade 5 "Deliberate" ?

ryno_ wrote:Which begs the question... what do you have to do to earn a grade 5? Jesus.

well, contact was with the head largely because Slater slipped.

No Worries wrote:Isn't Grade 5 "Deliberate" ?

That's a separate charge, carrying 550/650/750/850/950 points through the 5 grades.

Its nuts the reading through social media the massive variation in peoples views on this. People throwing 12 weeks around, others saying 2 weeks. If you wanted to read into that, you'd say that this is proof that the rules are inconsistently applied that people just have no idea.

Slater himself is a fairly polarising figure. Has many Fan boys ready to drop to their knees in his presence, but also has many haters. Its good to see that in this case, no blame is on him from the public. Not that there is much room for it.

my tv broke wrote:could mean nothing, but:

Cronk: "Hopefully we have Cameron and Billy available. If they aren't, we have depth which the #Origin period showed"

Smith can't be too bad unless Cronk is just playing games with us.

and if he is playing games does that make him Cooper Gronk

my tv broke wrote:

well, contact was with the head largely because Slater slipped.

I don't think Slater slipping wouldn't have made a big difference... looking at the footage he would've been hit high either way (Slater is pretty short).
It could've easily smashed his troublesome left shoulder and ruled Slater out for a lot longer.

The "slipping" argument is what is going to help Soliola at the judiciary tonight

Don't make me start messaging you guys individual to put in your nominations for the end of year awards.

https://www.nrlfantasyfanatics.com/t552-end-of-year-awards-nominations-2017

Ill have a solid think over it tonight and nominate. Can we juat quote and completw fields etc in the thread ?

Fortitude wrote:Its nuts the reading through social media the massive variation in peoples views on this. People throwing 12 weeks around, others saying 2 weeks. If you wanted to read into that, you'd say that this is proof that the rules are inconsistently applied that people just have no idea.

Slater himself is a fairly polarising figure. Has many Fan boys ready to drop to their knees in his presence, but also has many haters. Its good to see that in this case, no blame is on him from the public. Not that there is much room for it.

Whilst the rules are undoubtedly inconsistently applied, I'm not surprised there is such a variation in opinion on this one - it is a fairly unique scenario.

On one hand, there was obvious intent (to hit Slater late) but on the other hand no intent (to hit Slater high).

Based on that I'd land somewhere in the middle and subjectively give him a 2 week rest.

The case does highlight a problem with trying to assign black and white rulings for the sake of consistency because there will always be a unique scenario that occurs and you can guarantee a lot of people will be unhappy with whatever the decision ends up.

All, you can PM your noms to any mod, the thread is there as a guide.