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    2018 NRL.com Fantasy Thread Part 6

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    Post by pm888 Thu Feb 22, 2018 11:24 am

    This article has a strong shout for nicholls coming into the rabbits side meaning surgess will play on an edge

    https://www.zerotackle.com/slammin-sam-set-life-edge-31637/
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    Post by Warriors Thu Feb 22, 2018 11:25 am

    m_c wrote:
    But what if McGuire is your best sub? You don't want a lower scoring second rower to come in first if a 2rf doesn't play.

    If McGuire is on your bench you are getting his points anyway. Chances are if McGuire is on your bench (you decided to set your team up that way) you will only have three props (including McGuire) in total in your team and you will want him to be a prop emergency (hence you put him at 17). Chances are also high that you have a reserve second rower that you are willing to play in your 17 (e.g RFM/Cartwright/Arrow) etc so you will have them ranked above McGuire
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    Post by Milchcow Thu Feb 22, 2018 11:26 am

    wolfking wrote:I have a feeling this system might be a complete ballsup once we get going.

    Guaranteed some people will have a hissy fit when they see people loop-holing.

    Even if no one sets up a round 1 team for looping, won't be long before injury/suspension/form give people the opportunity
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    Post by Milchcow Thu Feb 22, 2018 11:28 am

    TheWeapon wrote:

    Common sense would say that the highest ranked player (in the correct position) in 14-17 (or failing that, 18-21) would replace the first player to require the auto emergency....

    (at least that's how I see it)

    What determines the 'first' player to require an AE?
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    Post by No Worries Thu Feb 22, 2018 11:30 am

    Milchcow wrote:

    Rules don't specify what order subs are made. Might need to clear it up with lone scout

    I've asked the question, but writing it made me think the actual question is "Are emergencies applied rolling like lockout or at the conclusion of the round ? I'm betting it's the 2nd which opens yet another loophole.
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    Post by MilfordTheMagician Thu Feb 22, 2018 11:33 am

    pm888 wrote:This article has a strong shout for nicholls coming into the rabbits side meaning surgess will play on an edge

    https://www.zerotackle.com/slammin-sam-set-life-edge-31637/

    I hope this happens. I have Murray in both fantasy and DT and am a big fan of him. He is a real workhorse and I bloody hope he gets the 13 jumper round 1.
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    Post by Milchcow Thu Feb 22, 2018 11:37 am

    MilfordTheMagician wrote:

    I hope this happens. I have Murray in both fantasy and DT and am a big fan of him. He is a real workhorse and I bloody hope he gets the 13 jumper round 1.

    I'm pretty sure that injury is the only thing that will stop that from happening. A lot of fantasy players banking on it anyway
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    Post by SoylentGreen Thu Feb 22, 2018 11:37 am

    Milchcow wrote:

    What determines the 'first' player to require an AE?

    while it might not be ideal, for ease and clarity it should just be based on a "first in best dressed" basis, calculated on game start time - if the situation you mention arises that's unfortunate but too bad. If it was something that you really were concerned about you'd make sure your single position players in the 14-17 are positioned above the DPPs.
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    Post by MilfordTheMagician Thu Feb 22, 2018 11:38 am

    Milchcow wrote:

    I'm pretty sure that injury is the only thing that will stop that from happening. A lot of fantasy players banking on it anyway

    Yeah I didn't even realize he was injured. So did he miss last week too? If so, no pre-season games is a worry.
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    Post by Milchcow Thu Feb 22, 2018 11:39 am

    No Worries wrote:

    I've asked the question, but writing it made me think the actual question is "Are emergencies applied rolling like lockout or at the conclusion of the round ? I'm betting it's the 2nd which opens yet another loophole.

    If they apply it at the end of the round (or if 2 people withdraw from the same game) do they go 'down' the team from hooker to fullback looking for AEs, or is there some other order.

    If you go into a round with players in doubt, knowing the order could be important
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    Post by Warriors Thu Feb 22, 2018 11:53 am

    If enough viable cheapies come up isn't it best to go back to the winning formula of a guns/cows team to conserve trades.

    Lots of midrangers people are banking on gaining close to 10 points average on their starting scores, when realistically the majority will only gain 5 points at best - and some will just score the same.

    Trick is to pick up the Wallace, Hess and Chricton's of last year.

    E.g

    Alvaro - 5 points better
    JBrom - 5 points better
    AFB - 5 points better
    Latrell - the same?
    Moses - 5 points better
    Harris - 5 points better
    Whitehead - 5 points better
    NAS - 5 points better
    Liu - the same?
    SST - the same?
    Murray - 5 points better

    Lots of guesswork really.

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    Post by wolfking Thu Feb 22, 2018 11:54 am

    MilfordTheMagician wrote:

    Yeah I didn't even realize he was injured. So did he miss last week too? If so, no pre-season games is a worry.

    Yeah, he didn't play last week either.
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    Post by MilfordTheMagician Thu Feb 22, 2018 11:58 am

    wolfking wrote:

    Yeah, he didn't play last week either.

    Crap.
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    Post by my tv broke Thu Feb 22, 2018 12:03 pm

    Warriors wrote:If enough viable cheapies come up isn't it best to go back to the winning formula of a guns/cows team to conserve trades.

    Lots of midrangers people are banking on gaining close to 10 points average on their starting scores, when realistically the majority will only gain 5 points at best - and some will just score the same.

    Trick is to pick up the Wallace, Hess and Chricton's of last year.

    E.g

    Alvaro - 5 points better
    JBrom - 5 points better
    AFB - 5 points better
    Latrell - the same?
    Moses - 5 points better
    Harris - 5 points better
    Whitehead - 5 points better
    NAS - 5 points better
    Liu - the same?
    SST - the same?
    Murray - 5 points better

    Lots of guesswork really.


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    Post by Milchcow Thu Feb 22, 2018 12:14 pm

    Warriors wrote:If enough viable cheapies come up isn't it best to go back to the winning formula of a guns/cows team to conserve trades.

    Lots of midrangers people are banking on gaining close to 10 points average on their starting scores, when realistically the majority will only gain 5 points at best - and some will just score the same.

    Trick is to pick up the Wallace, Hess and Chricton's of last year.

    E.g

    Alvaro - 5 points better
    JBrom - 5 points better
    AFB - 5 points better
    Latrell - the same?
    Moses - 5 points better
    Harris - 5 points better
    Whitehead - 5 points better
    NAS - 5 points better
    Liu - the same?
    SST - the same?
    Murray - 5 points better

    Lots of guesswork really.


    If Murray is starting lock, there is no way he only averages 5 points better than his priced average. His lowest score when playing 80+ minutes is 7 more than his BE.

    He is best bet to do a Vaughan/Crichton/Hess

    Probably another player or 2 will do it, including someone that the majority on here have disregarded.
    Our aim is to try and work out who that player is.

    Last year I ignored Vaughan in my initial team because I thought he was underpriced by a few points at best. Have to try not to make that mistake again.
    (if I do it could be Tohu Harris, who I don't trust to score well at NZ)

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    Post by Guest Thu Feb 22, 2018 12:22 pm

    Warriors wrote:If enough viable cheapies come up isn't it best to go back to the winning formula of a guns/cows team to conserve trades.

    Lots of midrangers people are banking on gaining close to 10 points average on their starting scores, when realistically the majority will only gain 5 points at best - and some will just score the same.

    Trick is to pick up the Wallace, Hess and Chricton's of last year.

    E.g

    Alvaro - 5 points better
    JBrom - 5 points better
    AFB - 5 points better
    Latrell - the same?
    Moses - 5 points better
    Harris - 5 points better
    Whitehead - 5 points better
    NAS - 5 points better
    Liu - the same?
    SST - the same?
    Murray - 5 points better

    Lots of guesswork really.


    Latrell with full time goal kicking could increase 5-10 points just with that.
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    Post by Chewie Thu Feb 22, 2018 12:26 pm

    Milchcow wrote:

    If Murray is starting lock, there is no way he only averages 5 points better than his priced average. His lowest score when playing 80+ minutes is 7 more than his BE.

    He is best bet to do a Vaughan/Crichton/Hess

    Probably another player or 2 will do it, including someone that the majority on here have disregarded.
    Our aim is to try and work out who that player is.


    Last year I ignored Vaughan in my initial team because I thought he was underpriced by a few points at best. Have to try not to make that mistake again.
    (if I do it could be Tohu Harris, who I don't trust to score well at NZ)


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    Post by No Worries Thu Feb 22, 2018 12:33 pm

    Question around emergencies.
    No Worries wrote: If you have Carty in 14-17 and a half goes down on Friday, then a 2FR goes down on Sunday and you have Croker in 18-21, do you play a man short or does Carty move to 2RF and Croker into half ? I suppose the question is, are emergencies assessed at the end of the round or rolling like the lock out ?

    Answer
    NRL Fantasy wrote:Should be at the end of the round, but will pass the question on to the developers to double check


    So you can run without coverage and trade someone in if required.


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    Post by Fortitude Thu Feb 22, 2018 12:35 pm

    Does anyone see Joel Thompson playing a different role at Manly?

    Was always fairly consistent around the 40s. I cant see his role changing much from the 60m 2rf that is used to tackle and run the odd line on the fringe.
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    Post by Fortitude Thu Feb 22, 2018 12:44 pm

    The POD score of the underpant gnomes (total of % owned) is a neat 300.

    With Smith, Lodge, Ponga and Cartwright making up %60.

    My starting 3 2rf making up 0.7% of my team.

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