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    2018 NRL.com fantasy thread part 29

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    Post by Fortitude Fri Apr 13, 2018 11:52 am

    Milchcow wrote:

    This year that would have worked out OK.

    Tonnes of cows and midrangers, with a couple of guns (as long as you picked the right cows and middies)

    I'm not sure we'll get so many cheapies perform so well in the first month of the comp next year.


    This is why people go the Guns and Cows method, the ideal outcomes is to start with the higher % of successful guns and cows.

    Its not realistic to think you could fill a team with purely cows and do any good, assuming you trade your way to victory.
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    Post by Krump Fri Apr 13, 2018 11:56 am

    Shumway wrote:


    One year, I should make a team entirely of cows and just go extreme on makin money to target the points later. The limitations on trades may also be a factor with that strategy though.
    This is a great h2h strategy so long as you string enough wins together to make the 8.
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    Post by StormTrooper96 Fri Apr 13, 2018 12:08 pm

    BRODIE CROFT BARRAGE BEGAN WITH MELBOURNE STORM VETERANS

    The noises began late last season - and it has only grown louder ever since.

    It was at the Melbourne Storm's post-grand final celebrations that senior members of the squad took rookie half Brodie Croft to task.

    The verbal barrage directed at Croft was related to his attitude ahead of what would be Melbourne's first season without Cooper Cronk in more than a decade.

    Such was the tirade directed at the rookie, from one of Melbourne's most high-profile names, people in the room have told how Croft was brought to tears.

    The blow-up has become a major taking point within the game.

    It's also being used as a starting point for what followed with Cameron Smith - as has been widely-reported - wanting Mitchell Pearce to head south once he was released from the Roosters.


    Does anyone really take much from the Lurker?
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    Post by standard-issue Fri Apr 13, 2018 12:11 pm

    Shumway wrote:
    SI wrote:

    That's the conundrum. Points V Dollars as I find myself in a pretty unique situation with that bank, which in turn means I can follow a different strategy to most.

    I'm actually happy to fall back points wise a bit to be honest if I have the bank to upgrade to Guns once we know who they are this season. The down side is if I don't pick up predicted guns now then I just pay more for them later hence circumventing the big bank. If that makes sense?

    I think you've got to think of dollars in terms of points per week. Making an extra $15,000 allows you to upgrade to an extra 1 point per week from when you upgrade. So if you're holding JMK and assuming you make $150k over the next, say 3-4 weeks, it means you can upgrade to an extra 10 points per week over the last 15 rounds. So you gain an extra 150 points over the season. The trade-off is that you're missing the points now. Instead of holding JMK, you could own say DCE and get an extra 30 points per week over the next 4 weeks instead of the extra cash. So it's about 120 points you're giving up to get an extra 150 later in the season. That's the type of trade-off we're always making. I think you mentioned your bank may be up to around $1mill - so you're giving up 65 points per week while you're holding that cash. You'd need to be really confident that you're cows are fattening up quickly to gain back those lost points.

    One year, I should make a team entirely of cows and just go extreme on makin money to target the points later. The limitations on trades may also be a factor with that strategy though.

    Completely agree mate. Regardless of strategy though, there will always be the experience and research/time invested and luck aspects that all contribute to a successful season.

    With that in mind, I think I'm going to pursue the Big Bank strategy and hope that a player like JMK does average 40 for a few weeks to help with both points and cash, with a bit of luck.

    The alternative is I spend the 750k I have now on upgrading 3 or so Cows that still have some milking. That is a middle of the road strategy for my team at the moment and that will probably only lead to middle of the road results.
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    Post by wolfking Fri Apr 13, 2018 12:12 pm

    StormTrooper96 wrote:BRODIE CROFT BARRAGE BEGAN WITH MELBOURNE STORM VETERANS

    The noises began late last season - and it has only grown louder ever since.

    It was at the Melbourne Storm's post-grand final celebrations that senior members of the squad took rookie half Brodie Croft to task.

    The verbal barrage directed at Croft was related to his attitude ahead of what would be Melbourne's first season without Cooper Cronk in more than a decade.

    Such was the tirade directed at the rookie, from one of Melbourne's most high-profile names, people in the room have told how Croft was brought to tears.

    The blow-up has become a major taking point within the game.

    It's also being used as a starting point for what followed with Cameron Smith - as has been widely-reported - wanting Mitchell Pearce to head south once he was released from the Roosters.


    Does anyone really take much from the Lurker?

    What, that seems strange.
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    Post by Fortitude Fri Apr 13, 2018 12:14 pm

    StormTrooper96 wrote:BRODIE CROFT BARRAGE BEGAN WITH MELBOURNE STORM VETERANS

    The noises began late last season - and it has only grown louder ever since.

    It was at the Melbourne Storm's post-grand final celebrations that senior members of the squad took rookie half Brodie Croft to task.

    The verbal barrage directed at Croft was related to his attitude ahead of what would be Melbourne's first season without Cooper Cronk in more than a decade.

    Such was the tirade directed at the rookie, from one of Melbourne's most high-profile names, people in the room have told how Croft was brought to tears.

    The blow-up has become a major taking point within the game.

    It's also being used as a starting point for what followed with Cameron Smith - as has been widely-reported - wanting Mitchell Pearce to head south once he was released from the Roosters.


    Does anyone really take much from the Lurker?

    I assume Storm senior squad members means Smith, Slater, Bromich? I mean is any surprised that Cameron Smith is an A grade Fuckwit with a superiority complex?
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    Post by Rapture_NRL Fri Apr 13, 2018 12:14 pm

    @StormTrooper96 If that's true, what good has come of it. Reminding someone to remain humble is one thing, but destroying someone's confidence in their ability is another. No healthy team environment should support that, and it compromises the team culture. No wonder he's playing shit. Grain of salt because I don't actually know the situation, but they would be winning if he was at last year's form.
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    Post by my tv broke Fri Apr 13, 2018 12:21 pm

    I reckon its bullshit
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    Post by wolfking Fri Apr 13, 2018 12:25 pm

    my tv broke wrote:I reckon its bullshit

    You'd think Bellamy wouldn't stand for it and just doesn't seem the way they operate. But sometimes we don't always know what's going on behind the scenes, looks can be deceiving.
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    Post by standard-issue Fri Apr 13, 2018 12:30 pm

    StormTrooper96 wrote:BRODIE CROFT BARRAGE BEGAN WITH MELBOURNE STORM VETERANS

    The noises began late last season - and it has only grown louder ever since.

    It was at the Melbourne Storm's post-grand final celebrations that senior members of the squad took rookie half Brodie Croft to task.

    The verbal barrage directed at Croft was related to his attitude ahead of what would be Melbourne's first season without Cooper Cronk in more than a decade.

    Such was the tirade directed at the rookie, from one of Melbourne's most high-profile names, people in the room have told how Croft was brought to tears.

    The blow-up has become a major taking point within the game.

    It's also being used as a starting point for what followed with Cameron Smith - as has been widely-reported - wanting Mitchell Pearce to head south once he was released from the Roosters.


    Does anyone really take much from the Lurker?

    A lot of the posters here were originally from the Sportal forums mate. Sportal then became Sporting News Australia and ditched the forums and Random set Fanatics up. The Lurker was Sportal's answer to The Mole. The Lurker had roughly the same strike rate as The Mole. Suffice to say it was embarrassing for all of us to be tentatively associated with The Lurker.

    Who knows what happens behind closed doors but in regards The Lurker, I don't think that many people have great faith in him. In saying that, he/she used to be pretty funny, particularly when taking on players like Gallen in ongoing media battles.
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    Post by StormTrooper96 Fri Apr 13, 2018 12:34 pm

    my tv broke wrote:I reckon its bullshit

    Yeah I am not sure. A lot of the stuff Lurker says always makes me question the authenticity and whether it is him hearing it from someone, who heard it from someone else who told his sister who overheard there brother talking to that one guy
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    Post by Mearcats Fri Apr 13, 2018 12:37 pm

    Nothing the Lurker says is worth listening to... Period.
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    Post by Guest Fri Apr 13, 2018 12:42 pm

    Oh the lurker said it. I thought this was real for a second
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    Post by Chewie Fri Apr 13, 2018 12:42 pm

    Batching it this weekend.  
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    Looking forward to catching a few more games, a few more drinks and a few more page 51 parties than ussual  Cheers
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    Post by Mearcats Fri Apr 13, 2018 12:42 pm

    For today's topic of discussion, I'd be interested to know how people feel strategies have changed this year in comparison to years gone by. What are your plans regarding byes etc? Do you feel the system set up this year makes it more achievable to get a good shot at close to 17 top tier players instead of scrounging for points? How, if it all, has that affected your trade strategy so far this season?

    Early days I know but I personally always find it interesting to see how people like to move strategically in a game that can be a lot of luck of the draw each week.
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    Post by mickspicks Fri Apr 13, 2018 12:48 pm

    Smith and Bellamy said after the game against whatever English team that Brodie is a talent but cannot get ahead of himself and needs to check him regularly in order to not get a big head. Obviously that isn’t the exact words but that is what they were getting at. But also it makes sense as the dude is only 20.
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    Post by standard-issue Fri Apr 13, 2018 12:50 pm

    Mearcats wrote:For today's topic of discussion, I'd be interested to know how people feel strategies have changed this year in comparison to years gone by. What are your plans regarding byes etc? Do you feel the system set up this year makes it more achievable to get a good shot at close to 17 top tier players instead of scrounging for points? How, if it all, has that affected your trade strategy so far this season?

    Early days I know but I personally always find it interesting to see how people like to move strategically in a game that can be a lot of luck of the draw each week.

    As a tragic bye planner, I haven't even really looked this year. I think the maths was done and it was nigh on impossible to have 17 in both rounds? I could be wrong though so can someone confirm. I will probably start looking now to maximise numbers. But I think the Rankings will be even less clearer over that period than usual.
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    Post by Fortitude Fri Apr 13, 2018 12:51 pm

    Mearcats wrote:For today's topic of discussion, I'd be interested to know how people feel strategies have changed this year in comparison to years gone by. What are your plans regarding byes etc? Do you feel the system set up this year makes it more achievable to get a good shot at close to 17 top tier players instead of scrounging for points? How, if it all, has that affected your trade strategy so far this season?

    Early days I know but I personally always find it interesting to see how people like to move strategically in a game that can be a lot of luck of the draw each week.

    Generally speaking, I think the system has brought a lot more luck into it. With fewer NPRs bye planning is more reliant on avoiding SOO players and having enough trades to max trade both rounds. Previously, you could have cheapies sitting in the bleaches to plug gaps etc.

    But, you make your own luck. This is probably Clichéd as a Gus Gould 'next team to score' comment but the best strategy is the one that you follow. Who ever wins, isn't going to win by rage trading and following the popular picks on a forum.
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    Post by Shumway Fri Apr 13, 2018 12:52 pm

    Fortitude wrote:

    This is why people go the Guns and Cows method, the ideal outcomes is to start with the higher % of successful guns and cows.

    Its not realistic to think you could fill a team with purely cows and do any good, assuming you trade your way to victory.

    It'd be an absolutely extreme approach to try and I think you're right. but I think the main reason is the limit of 2 trades per week. You just couldn't upgrade enough cows at the right time. A lot would make their cash at a similar trajectory, so you couldn't upgrade at the optimal times. But theoretically I think the value from cows may actually exceed the points from guns early in the season.
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    Post by mickspicks Fri Apr 13, 2018 12:54 pm

    RE: JMK. Funnily enough he relies on defensive plays. He’s pretty much non-existent in attack bar one play where we will make a tackle bust. There are signs that if he grows a little bit in confidence he will take a few more runs which will increase his average. Seems the bulldogs are just slowly introducing him.

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