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    Post by No Worries Wed May 16, 2018 1:01 pm

    wolfking wrote:Am I crazy for thinking of tossing Kikau before Maloney?

    You'd think Cleary and Maloney would split everything a little more first week back.

    On another note Im sold on Reynolds and Crichton but still, Lamb and Fifita are options Im weighing up too which seems solid.

    I was looking at the same Kikamoocow or BBQ. Remembered someone here stating Kika is one of the top 6 props, what's the rush. You've made the Maloney coin, it's time to get DCE. At least that's how I'm looking at it
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    Post by wolfking Wed May 16, 2018 1:03 pm

    Second guessing again and again. Whats the consesus with these options;

    Crichton and Reynolds

    Or

    Lamb and Fifita

    ?? Cheers.
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    Post by wolfking Wed May 16, 2018 1:04 pm

    No Worries wrote:

    I was looking at the same Kikamoocow or BBQ. Remembered someone here stating Kika is one of the top 6 props, what's the rush. You've made the Maloney coin, it's time to get DCE. At least that's how I'm looking at it

    Getting Reynolds personally. Would have to trade Kikau instead of Rein to get DCE.
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    Post by RandomSil Wed May 16, 2018 1:06 pm

    WT2K wrote:Sharks Paul Gallen (knee), Josh Dugan (foot), Jaysen Bukuya (virus) all trained with squad Today
    https://twitter.com/WackosWhispers/status/996581613910683648?s=19

    That would be extremely nice, though after last week would Dugan get the FB position back after injury? It makes me want to trade him now, even though I have held him so long.
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    Post by RandomSil Wed May 16, 2018 1:16 pm

    Rapture_NRL wrote:

    Thanks for the reply! I think I'll take your advice reference Maloney and keeping Kikau et al. My reason behind not trading Soro and Cogger is using the bank to get in guns. Other option is to nerf them, but that means using trades so essentially I'm left with 8 as back up.

    I have $772k pre-trades and if I trade ARey and Crichton in that leaves me $610k. That allows me to upgrade Rein and JMK to Teddy + Turbo (cost of $300k), and later Kikau and Fifita for a cheaper Matterson and Fifita (This will be the tight trade). That leaves me 10 trades, 0 cash and:

    Cook
    Arrow Fifi/Next best
    Harris Tolo Crichton
    ARey DCE
    Mitchell Isaako
    Ponga Teddy Turbo

    Smith Matterson JFH Murray

    Martin Cogger Phillips Soro (These players to upgrade Isaako and any of the starters)
    Is my thinking sound?? If not, I'll follow your advice verbatim.

    That is sound but you are cutting it close. I really don't like the fact that you have to run Isaako in your 17 and potentially two guys in Cogger and Soro as well. I mean you will have some trades left over, but personally I would rather try and move them so you have at least 21 players actively playing. I think you can get away with 8 trades left for injuries though. So Soro/Cogger and upgrading Isaako could be a long term option I guys. It just feels really tight either way.
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    Post by Revraiser Wed May 16, 2018 1:25 pm

    Rapture_NRL wrote:

    I think the biggest point behind having cover on your bench is so your hand isn't forced when it comes to trades. If you have starters in your team that you only had as cows or you always intended to trade, having cover allows you to trade to any position. This is useful when you use a peaked cow at say WFB for example to buy a fallen 2RF gun. I'm hamstrung atm with no back cover, so any back I trade has to be for another back, rather than using that $150k they made to upgrade elsewhere.

    In saying that, I would prioritize my trading decisions as such; 1. Gun/Cash gen, 2. Value, 3. Out of reach next week, 4. Byes, 5. Cover/DPP
    (Working progress but you get the picture)

    This is half of @Fortitude point though, why hamstrung ? Trade in anyone you want without feeling limited to position.
    I havent worried about the backup thing either, theres no room for it. In my view u gotta wing it and hooe u make the right choices, a huge part of the fun for me.
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    Post by RandomSil Wed May 16, 2018 1:28 pm

    multiple.scoregasms wrote:Still 280k left in the bank after this weeks upgrades
    Looking at doing something like Havili>Cleary or JMK>Tedesco/Mannering/Gallen/Tturbo/Harris
    This is how the squad is shaping up so far

    Cook
    Fifita Arrow
    Murray RFM JFH
    DCE Arey
    Croker Hiku
    Ponga Mbye Dufty

    Surgess Havili Martin Su'a

    Smith JMK Brimson Cogger

    I would make the JMK trade with Tedesco, T. Harris, T. Trbojevic being the order of priority.

    Havilii is worth holding this week he has a BE of 20 which he should make and the last three weeks have been massive.
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    Post by Tanseyman Wed May 16, 2018 1:32 pm

    Hi new poster here.I have 261k with 18 trades. I really want fifita. Murray to fifi ?My team
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    Post by No Worries Wed May 16, 2018 1:33 pm

    Revraiser wrote:

    This is half of @Fortitude point though, why hamstrung ? Trade in anyone you want without feeling limited to position.
    I havent worried about the backup thing either, theres no room for it. In my view u gotta wing it and hooe u make the right choices, a huge part of the fun for me.

    I've foregone the cover aswell. You have to be pretty unlucky for someone to go down in warm up. And if you have to injury/suspension trade that's the risk you take. Is that better or worse than restricting your overall bank by restricting your trades by position and not picking up the best cows.
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    Post by my tv broke Wed May 16, 2018 1:34 pm

    wolfking wrote:Am I crazy for thinking of tossing Kikau before Maloney?

    You'd think Cleary and Maloney would split everything a little more first week back.

    On another note Im sold on Reynolds and Crichton but still, Lamb and Fifita are options Im weighing up too which seems solid.

    Don't think you're crazy, I've been thinking of going the same way myself.

    Given Cleary has missed a lot of football, and Maloney has done so well leading the team, I don't think its unreasonable to think Cleary may ease back into it, but its really hard to say. On the other hand, Cleary will be pretty determined to a) beat his dad, and b) earn a nsw jersey.

    Kikau could score anywhere from 20 to 60, his big scores rely on a one or two big runs. I'm also worried about his knee, and maybe he will have a few quiet games in a row. If he does, he might start to bleed cash. Given he has such high ownership, its a bit of a risk to bail early but could be worth it.

    This week is really doing my head in, with so many players who are right on the borderline of being a trade or a definite hold.
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    Post by Guest Wed May 16, 2018 1:39 pm

    I've reversed trades that many times I've confused myself!
    As it stands - I've got Maloney and Soro out for lamb and koro but also rather interested in Arey. I've owned him in sc previously and know the risk/reward with him.
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    Post by multiple.scoregasms Wed May 16, 2018 1:39 pm

    Random wrote:



    I would make the JMK trade with Tedesco, T. Harris, T. Trbojevic being the order of priority.

    Havilii is worth holding this week he has a BE of 20 which he should make and the last three weeks have been massive.
    Defnitely holding both those lads for this week
    Have already done Rein and Maloney out for Arey and Surgess
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    Post by Liverpool_Bulldog Wed May 16, 2018 1:43 pm

    If you could trust anyone below 500k except Lamb to make close to 150k who would it be if you grabbed them this week?
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    Post by Rapture_NRL Wed May 16, 2018 1:55 pm

    @Revraiser Example for me is if I have cover, I can cash out JMK who is in my WFB without having to only trade in a WFB. ATM I need to get a gun 2RF and Half so if I'm looking for cash, it'd ideally mean cashing in JMK to do it. However, without cover, I'm forced to trade JMK for a WFB only. But as I said, it's lowest in the order of my decision making process. The other 4 factors are prioritised.
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    Post by pm888 Wed May 16, 2018 1:56 pm

    Liverpool_Bulldog wrote:If you could trust anyone below 500k except Lamb to make close to 150k who would it be if you grabbed them this week?
    no clear standouts, i was looking at ipapalii (401k) and what his minutes would be moving forward but cant find much info. hard to figure out with tevaga/mannering on the bench and luke being able to play 80mins.

    you could take a punt on a roosters.cowboys,sea eagles forward who plays the bye in place of cordner/hess/jturbo + maybe napa/scott/cooper

    maybe lane/barnett could make 150K? a bit closer to 100k though i reckon
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    Post by danseels1985 Wed May 16, 2018 1:56 pm

    JMK to Segeyaro and RFM to ARey sound ok? Really want to take a punt on Niukore though. Don't want to wait another week as ARey could put on another 30-40k plus RFM could lose some
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    Post by Rapture_NRL Wed May 16, 2018 2:02 pm

    @Random Hmm you've given me a lot to think about

    So for my subsequent upgrades to work and trading Isaako, I can't bring Aitken, Dugan or Marsters. Who's next best? If I do bring in Aitken/Marsters, I'll likely miss out on Fifita. Or should I flick RFM for the gun centres?
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    Post by Milchcow Wed May 16, 2018 2:03 pm

    Fortitude wrote:This might seem like a dumb question so I hope I get my point across properly so it doesn't come across REALLY dumb.

    But whats the point of cover, more specifically in the CTR and WFB positions?

    Its hard enough picking a decent starter let alone cover, if a starter goes down and I don't have cover id sooner get 0 and know that I have the extra 2-300k in a player elsewhere to make up for it. In the long term, that better player in the halves or forward will outscore having cover 99/100.

    The only reason I have cover for positions is when by some miracle a cash cow ive picked up can cover an injury.

    Interested in peoples thoughts on this.

    The problem with no cover is that its a risky strategy.

    If Marsters and Aitken are your only 2 CTRs, and one of them gets injured for 2 weeks, what do you do?

    Play with 16 for a short while or waste 2 trades swapping someone in and out? Especially around this time of year when people are worrying about likes of Rein, Murray, RFM, Maloney - not easy to deal with the added stress of not being able to ride out a short term injury.
    Worst case, imagine Nathan Brown was a CTR and you had him and no cover, - 1-2 week injury (most people held him), then another week, then a month. How long would you hold him for if every week you had him meant playing short.


    Probably the best strategy if you want to win is run without cover and not have your players get injured, so I guess smart people would just choose that option
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    Post by Liverpool_Bulldog Wed May 16, 2018 2:09 pm

    pm888 wrote:
    no clear standouts, i was looking at ipapalii (401k) and what his minutes would be moving forward but cant find much info. hard to figure out with tevaga/mannering on the bench and luke being able to play 80mins.

    you could take a punt on a roosters.cowboys,sea eagles forward who plays the bye in place of cordner/hess/jturbo + maybe napa/scott/cooper

    maybe lane/barnett could make 150K? a bit closer to 100k though i reckon

    Ive settled on Lamb and Watson for now, BEs are already super low and have the Titans next, gotta have a chance. There scores should be useful and give me a bit of depth.

    Saying goodbye to JMK and Sorenson, thanks for the fun times.
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    Post by Fortitude Wed May 16, 2018 2:11 pm

    Milchcow wrote:

    The problem with no cover is that its a risky strategy.

    If Marsters and Aitken are your only 2 CTRs, and one of them gets injured for 2 weeks, what do you do?

    Play with 16 for a short while or waste 2 trades swapping someone in and out? Especially around this time of year when people are worrying about likes of Rein, Murray, RFM, Maloney - not easy to deal with the added stress of not being able to ride out a short term injury.
    Worst case, imagine Nathan Brown was a CTR and you had him and no cover, - 1-2 week injury (most people held him), then another week, then a month. How long would you hold him for if every week you had him meant playing short.


    Probably the best strategy if you want to win is run without cover and not have your players get injured, so I guess smart people would just choose that option

    I buy an equally as frustrating ctr to own and just run with them instead. Cost me a trade yes. Whilst I haven't intended on having cover, the reality is you have 8 players not in your 1-13 that aren't tied to a position. Chances are you can work something out depending on length of injury. I know this kind of goes against my point of having cover. MY point is more focused on having cover that isn't producing a quality return on investment.

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