NRLFF community managed fantasy team

by GreenMachine Tue Feb 12, 2019 9:34 am

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Re: NRLFF community managed fantasy team

by GreenMachine Tue Feb 12, 2019 9:34 am

For the initial team selection a series of position by position polls starting at fullback. Again have small committee group-think the options. That same committee can manage the budget of the bench by limiting options. Eg for 3rd backrow position it might be Stimson and below.

The bench might only have one 700 and below list and all others 400 and below. 18-21 max spend of 128k

Just some rules and conventions like that to help work out the poll and who is being voted on

by GreenMachine Tue Feb 12, 2019 9:46 am

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Re: NRLFF community managed fantasy team

by GreenMachine Tue Feb 12, 2019 9:46 am

Verbal Kint wrote:I quite like the idea of collating suggested teams from whoever wants to contribute and sticking these all together for a consensus start team. I think the bulk of the team would fall into place quite easily. Any deadlocks, marginal calls, or 'linked' combos can be put to a vote to finalise. This might be easier/quicker than voting for every position.

We need a discussion pre the first game of the season to cover off any team list surprises or injuries etc. I dont expect we'll have time for a vote if things need a tweak. Perhaps we use an 'executive committee' to make decisions for this part - based on the discussion. They might also be required to make a call on tied votes etc.

A captain vote would be needed every week. Isaaaaaaako!!

I see two workable options with trades without over complicating the process:
- executive committee(?) propose trade options and this goes to a forum vote. Likely less options and quicker to progress to a decision point. More chance of a sensible 'hold the trade' getting through when appropriate
- trade ideas/suggestions are discussed in a trade topic and then listed for a forum vote. Likely more options and better engagement for those interested but slower to progress to options/decision. Hold the trade likely to not occur

If we need a small committee to lead this then we need volunteers/nominations etc.

Erm, what else...

Sorry should have read all posts before posting. What you call executive committee was exactly my thinking with some form of selection board. There definitely needs to be some controls over narrowing the options.

For the initial team could get everyone to post their pre TLT (current) draft. Use a forum % picked to create the fanatics cookie cutter team then as TLT nears (and after teams) propose some positional trades during the UNLIMITED time, to tweak.

I think polls on main NRL forum too so long as everyone can only vote once, don’t see why everyone won’t have a click and an opinion!

by Krump Tue Feb 12, 2019 10:01 am

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Re: NRLFF community managed fantasy team

by Krump Tue Feb 12, 2019 10:01 am

This is a really interesting idea but in practicality it would be an absolute nightmare to run.

by Rippin and Tearin Tue Feb 12, 2019 10:17 am

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Re: NRLFF community managed fantasy team

by Rippin and Tearin Tue Feb 12, 2019 10:17 am

I think the person who decides to run it, Captain Ranta?, needs to reserve the right to make calls, either by themselves, or with whoever they chose to work with. And anyone that wants to be part of it, needs to be OK with that. Otherwise I agree, it would be a shit of a thing to manage.

At the risk of inundating with ideas, I think a simple poll getting people to rank players (in terms of value) by the position groups is a good start. Then fill out the team in a bit of an ad-hoc fashion trying as much as possible to reflect the polling.

The trading is where things will get tough as many people think several moves ahead. You make one move this week because you anticipate doing something else in several weeks time. Polling trades could easily result in competing strategies which could potentially be not complementary, perhaps even detrimental. Hence I would argue that people involved post their trade ideas but Ranta et al reserve the right to make the final call.

My 2 cents - I think it could be really fun, and I would certainly like to provide input no matter how it is run.

by No Worries Tue Feb 12, 2019 12:56 pm

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by No Worries Tue Feb 12, 2019 12:56 pm

Krump wrote:This is a really interesting idea but in practicality it would be an absolute nightmare to run.

Yep, this thread has popcorn gif written all over it.

by Chewie Tue Feb 12, 2019 5:30 pm

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by Chewie Tue Feb 12, 2019 5:30 pm

No Worries wrote:

Yep, this thread has popcorn gif written all over it.

I'm happy to be a spectator Beer

by Cap'n Ranta Tue Feb 12, 2019 11:27 pm

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by Cap'n Ranta Tue Feb 12, 2019 11:27 pm

Regarding the team itself I'll probably setup a fanatics email which I'd share amongst a core group (selection commitee/executives etc.) that want to help. Main reason is I'm in London for the year so I can't always be on top of late team changes etc. If anyone is keen to be a part of that let me know

Regarding making an initial team its probably to early (read too many changes/polls) at the moment to propose a full draft team. Once we get a few trials done I feel it will be easier to make a cookie cutter team. In the meantime I think we could start a list of players by position that the fanatics like as the prelim and make narrowing down the team a bit easier. I'll make a new post to kick this off.

Regarding weekly trades I'm putting that on the backburner as well.

The hard thing I see week to week is that polls are easily the best way to get a group vote but we'd need a new thread for each so following multiple threads for decisions could be problematic. Also I don't think people can propose new options in polls so we'd need to discuss options before putting them to a poll (Can use the likes to raise popular ideas to a specific week vote thread). I say we worry about in season trades later (deal with it week by week) and focus on getting a team setup(super trade weeks will be something else).

Also we need a team name (happy to take the name that gets the most likes in this group)

by Cap'n Ranta Wed Feb 13, 2019 12:02 am

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Re: NRLFF community managed fantasy team

by Cap'n Ranta Wed Feb 13, 2019 12:02 am

Preliminary Team List

Feel free to add names to this list by quoting and adding your POI name/s in the relevant section so we keep it to the one list. In a week or two I might try and further sort them into Gun, Value and Cow tiers but this is a start.

Hookers

Cook
CS9
Macca
Friend
Mahoney
Radley (2RF)
Egan
Hampton (CTR)

FRF

Fifita
Taupau (2RF)
Tolman
TPJ (2RF)
Offa
LAM
Surgess (2RF)
Twal (2RF)
Napa
Haas

2RF

JTurbo
Murray
Taupau (FRF)
Stimson
TPJ (FRF)
Arrow
Gillet
Surgess (FRF)
Twal (FRF)
Papali'i
Kikau
Nikora (CTR)
Sorensen
Aubbs (CTR)
Capewell (CTR)
Lane
Leilua
Radley (HOK)
Cartwright (HLF)
J. Bateman (CTR)

HLF

Keigrhan /Tavita Harris
Salmon / Brown
Munster
Croft
Moylan (WFB)
DCE
Cleary
Johnson
Reynolds
Milford
Pearce
Morgan
Cartwright (2RF)
Ponga (WFB)
Watson (WFB)
Drinkwater/Hughes (WFB)

CTR

Mitchell
Bird
Xerri
Moga
Lomax (WFB)
Nikora (2RF)
Aubbs (2RF)
Capewell (2RF)
J. Bateman (2RF)
Hampton (HOK)
Scott

WFB

Tedesco
TTurbo
Ponga (HLF)
RTS
Moylan (HLF)
Mansour
Lomax (CTR)
Allan
Abbey
Drinkwater/Hughes (HLF)
Edwards
Watson (HLF)

by Iron Mike Thu Feb 14, 2019 12:19 pm

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by Iron Mike Thu Feb 14, 2019 12:19 pm

I would like to add David Fifita and Chricton to the above list.

by Iron Mike Thu Feb 14, 2019 12:21 pm

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by Iron Mike Thu Feb 14, 2019 12:21 pm

Cap'n Ranta wrote:Preliminary Team List

Feel free to add names to this list by quoting and adding your POI name/s in the relevant section so we keep it to the one list. In a week or two I might try and further sort them into Gun, Value and Cow tiers but this is a start.

Hookers

Cook
CS9
Macca
Friend
Mahoney
Radley (2RF)
Egan
Hampton (CTR)

FRF

Fifita
Taupau (2RF)
Tolman
TPJ (2RF)
Offa
LAM
Surgess (2RF)
Twal (2RF)
Napa
Haas
M Fotuaika

2RF

JTurbo
AChricton
Murray
Taupau (FRF)
Stimson
TPJ (FRF)
Arrow
Gillet
Surgess (FRF)
Twal (FRF)
Papali'i
D Fifita
Kikau
Nikora (CTR)
Sorensen
Aubbs (CTR)
Capewell (CTR)
Lane
Leilua
Radley (HOK)
Cartwright (HLF)
J. Bateman (CTR)

HLF

Keigrhan /Tavita Harris
Salmon / Brown
Munster
Croft
Moylan (WFB)
DCE
Cleary
Johnson
Reynolds
Milford
Pearce
Morgan
Cartwright (2RF)
Ponga (WFB)
Watson (WFB)
Drinkwater/Hughes (WFB)

CTR

Mitchell
Bird
Xerri
Moga
Lomax (WFB)
Nikora (2RF)
Aubbs (2RF)
Capewell (2RF)
J. Bateman (2RF)
Hampton (HOK)
Scott

WFB

Tedesco
TTurbo
Ponga (HLF)
RTS
Moylan (HLF)
Mansour
Lomax (CTR)
Allan
Abbey
Drinkwater/Hughes (HLF)
Edwards
Watson (HLF)

by Liverpool_Bulldog Mon Feb 18, 2019 9:15 am

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by Liverpool_Bulldog Mon Feb 18, 2019 9:15 am

This looks like an interesting project.

Add BMorris?

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by Guest Mon Feb 18, 2019 9:24 am

Lone Scout wrote:Hey guys, fan of your work. If you'd like to put together a combined team and have it entered into people's leagues as a 'celebrity' team (maybe 'The Fanatic'?) shoot us a message on the Fantasy Facebook page. 'The Renegade' was in there last year so you guys should have one too if you're keen.

We should just need a team name and email to set it up as a celeb team.

by GreenMachine Mon Feb 18, 2019 9:36 am

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by GreenMachine Mon Feb 18, 2019 9:36 am

Few that have been in many of my teams,

Matterson 2RF - gun potential at OK price
Clifford HLF - better value than Morgan imo
Holland CTR - won’t surprise me to see him Top 5-6 centre

Think Lachlan Burr could be a decent 2RF stash too

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by mattnz Mon Feb 18, 2019 9:40 am

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by mattnz Mon Feb 18, 2019 9:40 am

I hope the voting reflects the PODs that we favour here that others are missing. Would be a shame if it became a pretty stock standard team.

by mattnz Mon Feb 18, 2019 9:43 am

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by mattnz Mon Feb 18, 2019 9:43 am

I assume we are waiting until TLT to vote? Make up of teams will have a huge influence of who are great buys or not. Someone like Leilua wouldn't be favoured at all but if named to start at tlt he would be a must have.

by Iron Mike Mon Feb 18, 2019 9:59 am

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by Iron Mike Mon Feb 18, 2019 9:59 am

This is a hard concept to put together because naturally everyone will want this team to look similar to their own team.

I think we need to have 1 gun in FRF and HALF to base the team around. Naturally the hardest positions to get any real value from.

AFifita and Cleary would be my picks.

by GreenMachine Mon Feb 18, 2019 10:00 am

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by GreenMachine Mon Feb 18, 2019 10:00 am

mattnz wrote:I hope the voting reflects the PODs that we favour here that others are missing. Would be a shame if it became a pretty stock standard team.

You’d expect Fanatics PODs to be most prevalent yes, but can’t compare what we call stock standard vs public.

Ownership % of final team will tell!

For example Reed Mahoney is on many of our benches (some even starting him) and pretty stock standard pick in 14-17 he looks around here... but only 6.4% picked overall

by Iron Mike Mon Feb 18, 2019 10:04 am

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by Iron Mike Mon Feb 18, 2019 10:04 am

On midrangers, I would also like to have players priced in and around 30 points as preference over the more risky 40 point players because its more likely they will gain an extra 10 points above their average e.g Stimson, Capewell, LLeilua if he gets the start over risky picks such as Lane, Papali'i, Whitehead etc.

I also have a preference for second rowers (preferably more mins closer to 80 the better) over middle forwards e.g prefer Stimson over Radley.

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by RandomSil Mon Feb 18, 2019 10:13 am

I think we could do the voting early and then make changes come TLT. Most guys we have a decent idea about, in regards to like Cook, Murray, McCullough, Cleary then the only changes are the rookies.

by GreenMachine Mon Feb 18, 2019 10:14 am

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by GreenMachine Mon Feb 18, 2019 10:14 am

Iron Mike wrote:This is a hard concept to put together because naturally everyone will want this team to look similar to their own team.

I think we need to have 1 gun in FRF and HALF to base the team around. Naturally the hardest positions to get any real value from.

AFifita and Cleary would be my picks.

Yeah I think the first poll to have is one on structure.

Not so much just base around 2 guns without a vote. The selection committee could pool player groups by price bracket once they know the structure of it is indeed Gun half and Prop as you suggest.

Would need some bankroll management but 3 poll options could be something like;

Hookers
1. Gun Hooker with value backup
2. Gun Hooker with Gun backup
3. Hooker frenzy (3-4 of them)

Props
1. Gun FRF with Value partner and 1 cheap backup
2. 2 value props with value backup (one of them DPP)
3. 1 gun 1 cheap with cheap backup

Half
1. 1 Gun 1 Rookie with rookie backup
2. 2 value picks with rookie backup
3. 1 value 1 rookie with DPP value backup

Bench = Above mentioned backups plus base price rookies padding out

I’m not entirely sure the numbers pool together perfectly but get the drift.

First vote on team structure then start the player pool voting from your very good initial list for the slots avail

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