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Any update on trades?

Shanbon wrote:Any update on trades?

Voting says Rava > Xerri as only trade. Just as well, Rava about to lose lots of value starting from the bench. Was scoring badly enough in 80 minutes.

mattnz wrote:

Voting says Rava > Xerri as only trade. Just as well, Rava about to lose lots of value starting from the bench. Was scoring badly enough in 80 minutes.

Yup that change to starting teams for me changes the whole story. Will change my vote - just hope someone can make the trade.

Rd 7 Update

Hey Everyone,

Although some errors were made on my behalf (was sick on Friday) and didn't make the trades/captain choices in time the round went generally pretty well.

We scored 950 which puts us up to 483rd overall, 22nd in the FOG (well done to all) and finally 1st of all the celebrity teams.




Our Choices

Captain Fifi would have been great and Rava to Xerri was definitely the better trade. Unfortunately i didn't execute and as a result we did worse but not by as much as we could have with Batemans early game shift to CTR.

Basically with me being in London this was probably bound to happen sooner or later and to ensure this doesn't happen again I'd be interested in hearing peoples ideas on what we can do/who would be interested in helping.

This weeks plan

Rava (312k) needs to go if last week is the new team plan for the dragons. We have 251k in the bank and with a number of potential cheapies that are possibly available this shouldn't be an issue.

Otherwise there are plenty of almost peaked guys we might look to trade for guns. I think for this team we need to start talking who we are looking at more closely. I've started a list and would be great if we could add to this so we knew who we were targeting.

Plays 12 and is a keeper

Lolo (once he returns we can look at him for a game or two while he has a high BE)
TTurbo (Likely wont play origin until healed)
ARey (in the keeper half tier and well priced)

keepers that don't play 12

Smith (On the upswing again)
Farah (2-3 weeks will be ripe for the picking at 700-750k)
RTS  (hammy is a concern but looks to be a top 3 WFB)
Cleary (Plays Origin but could be one of the better halves)

keepers we should hold off on long term
Cook (dropping cash and likely won't play 12 or 13 and could be rested during origin under Bennett),
DCE (injury or Origin and highish BE should see him drop to a better price later)

Some other decisions I see to be made.

Getting keepers in costs cash. To buy all our shiny players above we will need to decide where that is going to come from and maybe start to look a few more weeks into the future rather than my 1 week trade looks. Morgan, Lawrie, Burr and Garner will be all dried up in the next 0-3 weeks and don't play 12 so are obvious picks but timing especially with other cows potentially maturing (Sivo, Mahoney, etc). Sometimes you get lucky and a cow just keeps going for a few more weeks making life easier but I'm seeing a real logjam around round 9/10 for us.

It gets a bit harder with cashing out cows that play rd12. Currently we have the following and though it seems wise to hold 5 weeks is a long time. I think it'd be unwise to count on all of these guys making our rd 12 team:

- CNK playing injured and has a BE of 48. His avg is 44.4 so that's achievable but there is a risk of bleeding cash for quite a while before rd 12.
- Cartwright BE: 18 might just make it all the way to rd 12 making good cash but might be a round short as he can score erratically.
- Sivo BE: 12. Unless the rookie winger strings together more big games in a row there is no way he makes it all the way to rd 12 without having a huge BE.
- Mahoney  BE: 29. Will likely peak before rd 12 but scores should be consistent enough to limit any damage for a round or two.

Keeper Watch (8 spots to go)

HOK: ?
FRF: Fifita, Haas
2RF: Murray, Arrow, ?
HLF: ?, ?
CTR: Bateman, Nikora
WFB: Tedesco, Ponga, ?

Bench: Taupau (Duals), ?, ?, ?

Hey man - we are going pretty well aye!

I'll take a look at things analytically as son as I can, but in terms of strategy, I have a few thoughts/suggestions:

Firstly, in terms of our round 12 guys that you mentioned that ultimately won't be keepers, at this stage I think they are absolutely all holds. My hope is that they all make it to 12 AND continue to make cash. If so, by having these guys we are well on our way to getting a massive leg up for the buy rounds.

Second, any cash out should be a round 12 player IMO, as much as it makes sense to do so. Also, I think its not ridiculous to 'cash out' to someone who is more expensive IF they are cheapish, play round 12 and will make money. Either way, I think it would be good to make a list of players, with some reasoning, who fit either of these bills. I guess at this point I have a soft spot for Fotuaika. Has anyone arisen after this rounds injuries?

I guess my list off the top of my head are:
Fotuakia $383k
Allan $263k
Whitbread $322k
Turner $276k

A couple guys not mentioned above as 'gun' trade ins that spring to mind are:
R Martin $679k
Fainu $565k (only if he gets the 80 min hooker spot with DCE out).
will add Kikau $633k as a bit of a smokie!!

By the way, did we figure something out about having a back up key holder to the celeb team? Is there a taker to actually be the #2? Perhaps if there is not, we could take turns?

I think it would be sensible regardless, but given Captain is in a different time zone it seems necessary to me.

Waiting on news for DCE and SJ's injuries, and KNik's rumoured move away from Brisbane.

But Koroisau, Flanagan and Dearden on the watch list for all 3 respectively.

Rava out for one of those or other cash out is a good move.

Morgan is closest to maxxed out if we want to move on a cash cow. Looks like he won't score enough to be a keeper

Rippin and Tearin wrote:
Fainu $565k (only if he gets the 80 min hooker spot with DCE out).

He wasn't an 80 minute hooker last year. 67 minute average once he got the starting spot

Milchy wrote:

He wasn't an 80 minute hooker last year. 67 minute average once he got the starting spot

OK my bad, although my focus was more on his 50 average over that time given he is priced at <40.  He may be a risk, but I dont see that many guys who you'd hope would score 50 that play round 12 and are priced at less than 40.

Milchy wrote:
Waiting on news for DCE and SJ's injuries, and KNik's rumoured move away from Brisbane.

But Koroisau, Flanagan and Dearden on the watch list for all 3 respectively.

Rava out for one of those or other cash out is a good move.

Morgan is closest to maxxed out if we want to move on a cash cow. Looks like he won't score enough to be a keeper

I think Morgan to ARey is a pretty decent option. As you say, Morgan is almost maxed, isn't looking like a keeper score and pays Origin so won't play 12. Grabbing ARey now looks like it will boost our 17 as well as adding 50 odd points in round 12. seems like a no brainer. He could well be a season keeper too. Im loving that move.

The harder one is the cow. I'd much rather one that plays 12. Not only will they boost that weeks score but they should time pretty well to washout post 12 but prior to the next bye week to then add to that round as well. You also have the benefit of only having to project through 4 weeks as opposed to double that.

Rippin and Tearin wrote:

OK my bad, although my focus was more on his 50 average over that time given he is priced at <40.  He may be a risk, but I dont see that many guys who you'd hope would score 50 that play round 12 and are priced at less than 40.

Its a pet peeve of mine that people always seem to focus on minutes first, and points second.
Martin Taupau is the 13th highest scorer this season, yet every week people here are whinging that his minutes aren't big enough.

I think DCE would need to be out long term for Fainu to be worth it. If DCE misses a month or less I don't think we'll get enough value out of him (and that is assuming Koro to halves and Fainu starting hooker)

Milchy wrote:

Its a pet peeve of mine that people always seem to focus on minutes first, and points second.
Martin Taupau is the 13th highest scorer this season,  yet every week people here are whinging that his minutes aren't big enough.

I think DCE would need to be out long term for Fainu to be worth it. If DCE misses a month or less I don't think we'll get enough value out of him (and that is assuming Koro to halves and Fainu starting hooker)

Haha yup - agreed!

Yeah, absolutely, Fainu is probably a stretch as an option at this stage as a whole lot would need to fall into place: DCE out for 4 games + the starting hooker role! If that were to fall into place though, Fainu looks appealing.

Are there any round 12 playing cows you like the look of mate?

I thought Milch had the spate keys, it’s a good idea that someone gets them.

As for trades I’d be going Rava and Lawrie to Waddel and ARey.

Both Lawrie and Morgan are near their peak but Morgan has a much better chance of pumping out a 60 and kick starting more production. I’m not fully sold on ARey I like a Milf pod a little more but rd12 is the deciding factor

Trade ideas for Round 8?

Do we give Rava a chance back on the wing? or do we ditch him.
Dearden and Lomax the obvious cheap options.

With Garner on the bench do we ditch him? If we downgrade Rava we can afford anyone we want.

In no particular order some options are

ARey
Crichton
Cook
CSmith
Kikau
Taukeiaho
RTS

We probably want Farah in 2-3 weeks so not sure we need to go overboard on the hookers

Also I've got login details now, and I believe R'nT does as well.

Previously it was just Ranta and Random, so now we have a better chance of picking up any important late changes

Milchy wrote:
Trade ideas for Round 8?

Do we give Rava a chance back on the wing? or do we ditch him.
Dearden and Lomax the obvious cheap options.

With Garner on the bench do we ditch him? If we downgrade Rava we can afford anyone we want.

In no particular order some options are

ARey
Crichton
Cook
CSmith
Kikau
Taukeiaho
RTS

We probably want Farah in 2-3 weeks so not sure we need to go overboard on the hookers

I was in favour of Rava on the chopping block before he scored a 3 to kill all momentum. A round 12 player would make sense at this point.

I guess we need to decide on Garner now unfortunately, rather than after final teams are named. Would be a real shame to trade him if named to start on game day.

Is there any love for Elgey? He's near bottom dollar, plays 12, and you'd think he takes a more senior role now with DCE out. Could gain KMs and a few other stats? I suggest him only because Im not sold on any of the other cows.

Yeah, looking at our team really the only guys I think are realistically on the block now are Rava, Morgan, and Garner. Rava has stalled in making money so lets ditch him. The choice then becomes Morgan v Garner and I think Morgan has a decent match up this week. BE is basically his average so worst case he breaks even I'd say. Garner is too injury prone for my liking, so for me its probably him.

Are looks to be the most solid round 12 playing potential keeper on the board right now.

So on first looks for me it would be:

Garner to ARey
and
Rava to cash out.

The last trade is very much dependent on how we think the next few weeks will unfold. Do we need to maximise the washout or can we handle spending up a bit to get a better prospect?

I image we will be looking to shift on Lawrie, Morgan, and probably Burr, perhaps even CHT given the Nikorima situation prior to 12. And we'll want to bring in Tolo, Farah, and maybe take a punt on a Surgess/Kikau type player?

It would be worth projecting out a couple of scenarios to figure out what sort of cash we need to start banking to get to where we want to get by round 12... (sorry short on time to do it).

Rava to Lomax seems sensible. Rava value on the way down now. One good score from Lomax and he starts to make money. Puts a bit ITB.
Morgan is the one I'd trade from the players R&T mentioned though he's a round 12 player. Burr and CHT ar scoring well so no rush (I'm ignoring the Niko talk) and Lawrie will squeeze out more cash this week.
Rava to Lomax and save the other trade for me.

code delta wrote:Rava to Lomax seems sensible. Rava value on the way down now. One good score from Lomax and he starts to make money. Puts a bit ITB.
Morgan is the one I'd trade from the players R&T mentioned though he's a round 12 player. Burr and CHT ar scoring well so no rush (I'm ignoring the Niko talk) and Lawrie will squeeze out more cash this week.
Rava to Lomax and save the other trade for me.

Morgan will be in the queensland 17 won't he?

Rippin and Tearin wrote:

Morgan will be in the queensland 17 won't he?

Scratch my round 12 comment then. NSW are looking good then.
I still think it may be worth holding a trade this week but Morgan would be the next in line to trade after Rava.