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    Post by mattnz Tue Apr 23, 2019 9:48 pm

    I'm in favour of Rava > Xerri. Get off the slow train and onto the fast moving one that is going to score much better.

    Apparently Mofo is in doubt due to being a naughty boy last weekend, likely getting suspended, so Whitbread could be a good option too and plays round 12 which we really need to start preparing for. Could start clearing some cash for big upgrades the next couple of weeks.

    I think we need to start looking at trade in targets the next 2-3 weeks after that. Taumalolo and Farah coming up cheap, even though both were in great form before injury and neither play origin, serious gun upgrades.
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    Post by Cap'n Ranta Wed Apr 24, 2019 2:17 am

    code delta wrote:Does Rava to Xerri and Garner to Grand Angus work??
    Don't think we can risk Rava as 2nd CTR

    Yep that works.
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    Post by Cap'n Ranta Wed Apr 24, 2019 2:19 am

    mattnz wrote:I'm in favour of Rava > Xerri. Get off the slow train and onto the fast moving one that is going to score much better.

    Apparently Mofo is in doubt due to being a naughty boy last weekend, likely getting suspended, so Whitbread could be a good option too and plays round 12 which we really need to start preparing for. Could start clearing some cash for big upgrades the next couple of weeks.

    I think we need to start looking at trade in targets the next 2-3 weeks after that. Taumalolo and Farah coming up cheap, even though both were in great form before injury and neither play origin, serious gun upgrades.

    Definitely agree on Lolo and Farah. Safe to say I think both are 3 rounds away. Any love for Smith in the same boat? Not as cheap but will play a bye rd. Problem is we need some base guys to show up to start the ugrade/downgrade party. Not seeing any on the horizon.

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    Post by Rippin and Tearin Wed Apr 24, 2019 6:44 am

    Guys - it baffles me why we continue to trade out (or at least talk about trading out) players that still have have either money to be made or boost our top 17 scoring (or dare I say it, both), when we have a dead duck sitting there in Burns chewing up valuable cash and most importantly clogging up a EMG spot and not generating any cash...

    The sensible play to cover C is Burns to Xerri, not Rava.

    But I've been a campaigner for this for a while and it hasn't gained any traction. Im not grumpy, just want to continue to point for the betterment of out team what I think is the biggest mistake we've made in this team so far.

    I'll have a think on the second trade. I agree with Matt that our round 12 team should be prioritised, but only if the player coming in makes sense. However, Im not sold on Sutton, or Fotuaika/Whitbread. Therefore perhaps using the CIB to upgrade our 17 is the play.

    Sutton, after watching him last round, probably doesn't score well enough to warrant putting him in our 17 and therefore I think we'd be tying up way too much money in him for the sake of round 12 points and cash generation.

    Fotuaika would have been my pick out of the Titans props, but his discipline issues have me worried. If he was behaving himself, it looks to me like he is probably slated for 45 tp 50 minutes as the starting prop, and we've seen what he can do when he gets minutes. I'd say he'd average somewhere in the 40 to 45 range with the potential to go big (maybe a good loop option). He will be as good a shot as any for a big round 12 score (at a cheap price) and should make us $150k at least prior to trading hi out at 12 - remember what he did last year during origin? Also, while I'll defer to the experts here, I think one of the concerns raised about Fotuakia after last weeks seemingly low minutes despite the James injury, is that they had more middles last week that they have slated this week. James's minutes, given he was on the edge were eaten up largely by their bench utility. I think if James had been a middle that game and they were one middle less on the bench, Fotu, probably plays 50+min last week. Am I wrong?

    Whitbread has a much lower ceiling IMO if he is a bench prop. He probably maxes at 40 minutes and averages 5 to 10 less than Fotuaika. He may even drop out of the rotation completely when Wallace is back, assuming Fotuaika doesn't go out on the piss again... (I have no idea if thats what he actually did). I think he is a bit of a risk... Why didnt he play rounds 1-4? Was he injured or just not considered? Cause week 3, even with Fotuaika not selected, he didnt play. Titans may well go with a prop rotation on Wallace, Fotuaika, Boyd, and King right? with Hipgrave and a bench utility as the other two bench spots.

    Long post - TLDR

    Burns to Xeri

    Not convinced on Sutton/Mofo/Whitbread so perhaps Cleary/RTS is the play
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    Post by Milchcow Wed Apr 24, 2019 8:08 am


    I think we bring Xerri in to play CTR for Burns or Rava.

    Personally don't trust Whitbread long term so won't vote for him.

    So to me the question is if we want Cleary or Crichton (or no trade) and who we ditch them for if we do.
    Having dumped Capewell, Tolman prematurely, I'm not sure we won't regret ditching Garner or Morgan, but they are who I'd have in the firing line.
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    Post by Guest Wed Apr 24, 2019 11:10 am

    Think we all agree on Xerri and I would trade Burns over Rava purely for the larger pool of money for upgrades, the fact he is at least a few weeks away and the loop is no longer needed at Ctr/WFb
    No matter how bad Rava is he only needs one good run and he makes cash due to his low BE. Hard to watch but at worst we can cash out in a week or 2 without bleeding too much
    Also no points or cash made in rehab. The bye is nice but still 6 weeks away

    Gives us 251k to play with and looking at the team the next fix is getting a new half
    Plenty of choices there to name a few
    Cleary/Reynolds/Johnson/Pearce

    As for trading out, would lean towards Morgan purely down to if we replace a forward with a back we are light on the 17th man. Can look to another half in a week or 2
    Means we have to play CHT or Carty regardless in the 17th man spot and would rather play Garner over Morgan

    So I would suggest these poll's

    Burns v Rava out for Xerri
    Morgan v (another player) out for Cleary (or any other half worth a mention)
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    Post by Guest Wed Apr 24, 2019 11:40 am

    Sorry! Time poor today, just to pop in to back the Burns to Xerri option. No clue on the 2nd trade..... will have a think
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    Post by Rippin and Tearin Wed Apr 24, 2019 12:18 pm

    Milchy wrote:
    I think we bring Xerri in to play CTR for Burns or Rava.

    Personally don't trust Whitbread long term so won't vote for him.

    So to me the question is if we want Cleary or Crichton (or no trade) and who we ditch them for if we do.
    Having dumped Capewell, Tolman prematurely, I'm not sure we won't regret ditching Garner or Morgan, but they are who I'd have in the firing line.

    Who would your preference be Milch - Burns or Rava out?
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    Post by filthridden Wed Apr 24, 2019 3:56 pm

    Rava to Xerri.
    No others trades at this stage.
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    Post by Milchcow Wed Apr 24, 2019 4:54 pm

    Rippin and Tearin wrote:

    Who would your preference be Milch - Burns or Rava out?

    Depends on

    If we need the extra cash from Burns for our extra trade
    If we think Rava will make or lose cash over the next couple of weeks
    How long we think Burns will be out for
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    Post by Rippin and Tearin Wed Apr 24, 2019 5:31 pm

    Milchy wrote:

    Depends on

    If we need the extra cash from Burns for our extra trade - I highly doubt we'll be in a position where cash is not an issue so I'd say we will need the cash
    If we think Rava will make or lose cash over the next couple of weeks - chances are he makes cash. BE of 20, and scoring at his average he will make about $25k over 3 weeks. Might not seem much but I've read a number of posts today even where people haven't been able to make the trade they want because of <$10k
    How long we think Burns will be out for - last I heard it sounded like 3 weeks minimum but someone might have more info than that.
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    Post by Cap'n Ranta Wed Apr 24, 2019 6:45 pm

    Milchy wrote:

    Depends on

    If we need the extra cash from Burns for our extra trade
    If we think Rava will make or lose cash over the next couple of weeks
    How long we think Burns will be out for

    Ill say I've tunneled a bit on holding burns because its already been so long but it is a good idea to be open to trading him regardless. Just saw if we turned Rava to a base price cow we'd have enough (1k to spare) to turn Burns into Cleary but we have CTR issues this week and there are no good base cows available so best to look elsewhere.

    To answer your questions Milchy my feelings now are:

    - With all the players we want to buy soon yes. This week we don't need it. More cash is always better though.
    - I'd say over 3 weeks he will 50:50 hold value (+-20k) or gain a small stack of cash (up to the 400k mark). Can't see him losing the little cash he has made
    - At the earliest rd 9 with a rd 11 being his certain return date

    Trade this week are pretty easy IMO. We have some cows in Xerri (good cow), Allan (sub-par cow rd12) and Whitbread (? cow rd 12). We also have some guns on the rebound such as Cleary, Moses, RTS, Cook, Smith, Crichton and middies like Ryan Sutton.

    Tradeouts are less clear

    Not making money soon tier
    Burns
    Ravalawa

    The probably cashing out too soon tier
    Morgan
    Garner
    Everyone else on our team

    Will post a poll now but I want people to keep in mind guys like Farah, lolo and the like are all coming up soon.


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    Post by Shanbon Wed Apr 24, 2019 10:37 pm

    If we trade burns out will we trade back in when he starts playing again? So to make an extra 25k on Rava it will cost us an extra trade down the track.

    Rava to Xerri for me and no 2nd trade, bank one for later.

    Im not sold on Cleary as being top 2 half for the 17 so is he really worth getting now knowing he will miss 2 weeks plus have to back up for Origin
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    Post by mattnz Wed Apr 24, 2019 11:50 pm

    Shanbon wrote:If we trade burns out will we trade back in when he starts playing again? So to make an extra 25k on Rava it will cost us an extra trade down the track.

    Rava to Xerri for me and no 2nd trade, bank one for later.

    Im not sold on Cleary as being top 2 half for the 17 so is he really worth getting now knowing he will miss 2 weeks plus have to back up for Origin

    I'm with you, 1 trade and Rava should be it. No point wasting trades for no reason.

    One is a spud, the other is a stud. No comparison and 1 of them plays 12.

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    Post by Rippin and Tearin Thu Apr 25, 2019 7:25 am

    You guys keep forgetting to take into account that burns is $100k more than Rava, so that , if spent correctly is 10 points per round! Also $25k could easily be more if he jags a try or two, and don’t forget, he is actually DPP cover which might be useful, u never know. Some people are actually struggling to cover the outs this week and I bet they’d rather have Rava than nothing.
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    Post by Rippin and Tearin Thu Apr 25, 2019 7:46 am

    Shanbon wrote:If we trade burns out will we trade back in when he starts playing again? So to make an extra 25k on Rava it will cost us an extra trade down the track.

    Rava to Xerri for me and no 2nd trade, bank one for later.

    Im not sold on Cleary as being top 2 half for the 17 so is he really worth getting now knowing he will miss 2 weeks plus have to back up for Origin

    Yeah I would and plan to in my own team.

    See above for the additional benefits of trading Burns too. The $25k is a bonus, its the $100k per week that's the big deal.

    Also, like with Brown last year, we dont actually know when Burns will be back. It is clearly a pretty bad injury for him to be out this long which means greater likelihood of complications. I hope the kid is back sooner rather than later, but I wouldn't want to do all my planning around the uncertainty of an existing injury...

    Anyway I'll ease up now, Im just a little baffled why we've tied up $400k+ and an EMG spot in a guy that has been out so long.... seems crazy to me.
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    Post by Shanbon Thu Apr 25, 2019 1:26 pm

    Rippin and Tearin wrote:

    Yeah I would and plan to in my own team.

    See above for the additional benefits of trading Burns too. The $25k is a bonus, its the $100k per week that's the big deal.

    Also, like with Brown last year, we dont actually know when Burns will be back. It is clearly a pretty bad injury for him to be out this long which means greater likelihood of complications. I hope the kid is back sooner rather than later, but I wouldn't want to do all my planning around the uncertainty of an existing injury...

    Anyway I'll ease up now, Im just a little baffled why we've tied up $400k+ and an EMG spot in a guy that has been out so long.... seems crazy to me.

    Is there a plan that the 100k nets 10 points in the 17? I havent seen one that is certain yet. I think we make most of that 10 points up per week using Burns in the loop.

    I guess if going to trade him back in we need to work out what the extra trade is worth. Lets say he is out another 5 weeks (expected back before that) thats 50 points for his extra trade and then we have to make sure that the player coming in plays rd12 and not Origin otherwise you lose thats points when they miss games
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    Post by Rippin and Tearin Thu Apr 25, 2019 1:31 pm

    impossible to plan ahead with any certainty. But all sorts of upgrades required to improve the 17 so will be no shortage of need for money.
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    Post by Shanbon Thu Apr 25, 2019 2:57 pm

    Have the trades been made? Rumour has Rava dropped for Lomax
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    Post by Guest Thu Apr 25, 2019 3:22 pm

    Shanbon wrote:Have the trades been made? Rumour has Rava dropped for Lomax

    Would recommend we trade Rava this week now if possible as he is on the bench
    At worst if he scores 1 point he loses a maximum of 20k so could be worse, though if something else happens like 2 major injuries and he can't be traded next week he could bleed cash hard

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