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    2019 NRL.com Fantasy thread part 4

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    Post by rhinoceroo Fri Feb 08, 2019 12:29 am

    More justification for Ted... last 12 rounds of season he averaged 59.5 so any other player we'd say he's potentially 100k underpriced.
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    Post by Buramada Fri Feb 08, 2019 12:32 am

    Fortitude wrote:Dce was my first picked. I know he is top dollaydoos but, i Cant see myself trading him out unless injured.

    Anyone got good reason as to why I shouldn’t start him?

    I could say something intelligent, go in detail through his statistics for the last 5 year, try to get to know him to sort out my prejudices, but I think the main reason not to start him is that I just don't like him. If I had some leftover food and it was delicious but I could not eat any more, I would prefer to throw it in the compost than give it to him. It would pain me for my team to do well on the back of DCE. I have often wondered for years why I never picked him, even though he scored well and I never could quite put my finger on it. But, for now, I have worked it out. He is just not worthy.
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    Post by standard-issue Fri Feb 08, 2019 12:33 am

    Archer wrote:
    SI wrote:Anyone else getting a Captcha prove you're not a bot every post at the moment?
    It must be using google image search to recognise sandeep in your photo.

    There actually could be something in this!
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    Post by standard-issue Fri Feb 08, 2019 12:35 am

    Buramada wrote:
    Fortitude wrote:Dce was my first picked. I know he is top dollaydoos but, i Cant see myself trading him out unless injured.

    Anyone got good reason as to why I shouldn’t start him?

    I could say something intelligent, go in detail through his statistics for the last 5 year, try to get to know him to sort out my prejudices, but I think the main reason not to start him is that I just don't like him. If I had some leftover food and it was delicious but I could not eat any more, I would prefer to throw it in the compost than give it to him. It would pain me for my team to do well on the back of DCE. I have often wondered for years why I never picked him, even though he scored well and I never could quite put my finger on it. But, for now, I have worked it out. He is just not worthy.

    I also choose to apply this to Ted!
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    Post by Welshy Fri Feb 08, 2019 12:37 am

    SI wrote:

    I also choose to apply this to Ted!

    Suck it up mate, no Ted is a life fantasy misery watching him rack up scores
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    Post by Sipi1994 Fri Feb 08, 2019 12:44 am

    StormTrooper96 wrote:Another POD choice who I think people are scared of due to being burned last year is Croft. 1.8% ownership. Finished the season with scores of 70 (1try), 60 (1try), 52 and 45 in rounds 17,18,23 and 24 respectively. Averaged 56.75ppg, 265km and 97.5mg for these 4 games. These scores are what we expected to see from the start of the year but these are also the types of scores we know he is capable of. Maybe without as much pressure to take over cronks spot and another season under his belt Croft, who is priced at 39.4, could be 10-15 points underpriced. Cheaper than the likes of Munster, Pearce, walker, arey and Milf (those players with ?? Around them). He could be a great choice to partner a Morgan or even Cleary/DCE combo.

    On my list but wouldn’t be expecting him to be 10-15 points unders. That’s saying he’s going to score 49-54. Cronk probably didn’t do that very often in his Storm career and he’s Cooper Cronk.

    Very much doubt he averages over 45 but still on my list as I see some value for sure.
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    Post by Sipi1994 Fri Feb 08, 2019 12:46 am

    Sipi1994 wrote:

    On my list but wouldn’t be expecting him to be 10-15 points unders. That’s saying he’s going to score 49-54. Cronk probably didn’t do that very often in his Storm career and he’s Cooper Cronk.

    Very much doubt he averages over 45 but still on my list as I see some value for sure.

    I don’t think we will see a Storm half almost top score in the position until Smith goes. He just dominates the side too much for a half to come in and average 54.
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    Post by standard-issue Fri Feb 08, 2019 12:46 am

    Welshy wrote:
    SI wrote:

    I also choose to apply this to Ted!

    Suck it up mate, no Ted is a life fantasy misery watching him rack up scores

    He will be a reverse POD for me.
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    Post by StormTrooper96 Fri Feb 08, 2019 12:47 am

    Sipi don’t get me wrong Cronk is a future Immortal but his game never really translated into fantasy, he didn’t really have the running game like Croft does and didn’t find the line as much that’s what makes the difference
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    Post by Welshy Fri Feb 08, 2019 12:49 am

    SI wrote:

    He will be a reverse POD for me.

    Has that ever worked?
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    Post by Sipi1994 Fri Feb 08, 2019 12:58 am

    StormTrooper96 wrote:Sipi don’t get me wrong Cronk is a future Immortal but his game never really translated into fantasy, he didn’t really have the running game like Croft does and didn’t find the line as much that’s what makes the difference

    Not a bad point mate. Would still be very surprised to see a 49-54 average from Croft.
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    Post by StormTrooper96 Fri Feb 08, 2019 1:11 am

    Sipi in 2016 he had one game for 58 points, then in his 5 games in 2017 he averaged 55 plus he then had a stunning world club challenge. This is why he was such a big prospect prior to last year. If you take out the first 5 rounds of last year where he was just rubbish and include the last 4 he averages 55+ for his career. Maybe those first 5 games were an outlier and there was just immense pressure and he didn’t perform

    This I just talked myself into Croft
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    Post by Pat69err Fri Feb 08, 2019 1:18 am

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    Post by Guest Fri Feb 08, 2019 1:24 am

    KalkadoonWarrior wrote:

    Couldn’t agree more, absolute lock and load keeper, 24000 different teams made and has never left my team once.

    You’ll be paying top dollar. He’ll be cheaper after a month or two.
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    Post by Sipi1994 Fri Feb 08, 2019 1:39 am

    StormTrooper96 wrote:Sipi in 2016 he had one game for 58 points, then in his 5 games in 2017 he averaged 55 plus he then had a stunning world club challenge. This is why he was such a big prospect prior to last year.  If you take out the first 5 rounds of last year where he was just rubbish and include the last 4 he averages 55+ for his career. Maybe those first 5 games were an outlier and there was just immense pressure and he didn’t perform

    This I just talked myself into Croft

    I talked myself into him last night but then remembered he ruined my start last year but your stats just now may have just talked me back into him. That, or it’s bedtime.
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    Post by Guest Fri Feb 08, 2019 1:54 am

    Rabbit wrote:

    You’ll be paying top dollar. He’ll be cheaper after a month or two.

    Probably right however it saves a trade, plus his bad scores are so much less than others in that position so also saves headaches.
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    Post by Guest Fri Feb 08, 2019 6:18 am

    Buramada wrote:

    I could say something intelligent, go in detail through his statistics for the last 5 year, try to get to know him to sort out my prejudices, but I think the main reason not to start him is that I just don't like him. If I had some leftover food and it was delicious but I could not eat any more, I would prefer to throw it in the compost than give it to him. It would pain me for my team to do well on the back of DCE. I have often wondered for years why I never picked him, even though he scored well and I never could quite put my finger on it. But, for now, I have worked it out. He is just not worthy.

    Did he touch you inappropriately.
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    Post by multiple.scoregasms Fri Feb 08, 2019 7:06 am

    rhinoceroo wrote:

    Yeah, don't think you can cut and paste Seibold's tactics from Souths to Broncos. Souths had a lock who was star man and needed to be on the field as much as possible, and two starting props who wete short-burst guys. As well as a totally dufferent hooker. One thing that will remain is more of a commitment to the offload than Bennet, which will be good for TPJ whatever his minutes, and probably for Milf running in broken field as well.

    Broncos also don't have a forward close to Cameron Murray's skillset. Murray was absolutely crucial for the attacking game plan. After the initial bash and grind period when Murray would come on he would act as a link man through the middle allowing Souths to stretch the field and had the ball playing ability to get other forwards one on one. This was another huge factor in all the quick play the balls Cook was getting. Be interesting to see if Bennett intends to keep this structure, also if Seibold tries to copy this by having Jack Bird play a roaming role through the middle.
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    Post by Rippin and Tearin Fri Feb 08, 2019 7:33 am

    Milchy wrote:
    Can we go back to some player analysis.

    Some people are big on Jo Ofahengaue. I am not sure I see the value. Talk me into him.

    Reading through the thread now, so this may have been answered. Ofa is in my team for now, but the value I see there is marginal (compared to others).

    He averaged 43 last year (presumably priced at that too??) but averaged a touch over 55 when starting at lock. By all accounts he has a big motor so I think he may get about 55-60 min as starting lock (due to the departures of a number of broncs forwards). If thats the case then I'd say he averages 50 (give or take). If that puts him about 7 points undervalued then for me that is a borderline starter in my team. I also think he's a bit easier to analyse than some other guys that Im trying to get a gauge on. So taking into account uncertainty, that leads me to Ofa a bit more too....

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