2019 NRL.com Fantasy thread part 4

I currently have Offa and TPJ as my FRFs
I would be happy with 40+s every week from those two.

Or should I be looking for more?

StormTrooper96 wrote:Sipi don’t get me wrong Cronk is a future Immortal but his game never really translated into fantasy, he didn’t really have the running game like Croft does and didn’t find the line as much that’s what makes the difference

Players names getting thrown up as future immortals really shits me, he's not even in the conversation. I'm only 32 and he's the 4th best halfback I've seen yet you've thrown up his name next to whats regarded as the best 13 players to ever strap on a boot.

Krump wrote:
Players names getting thrown up as future immortals really shits me, he's not even in the conversation. I'm only 32 and he's the 4th best halfback I've seen yet you've thrown up his name next to whats regarded as the best 13 players to ever strap on a boot.

Of the current generation the only likely future immortals are Smith, Slater, Thurston. Inglis an outside chance.

multiple.scoregasms wrote:

Of the current generation the only likely future immortals are Smith, Slater, Thurston. Inglis an outside chance.

Smith will be and deserving so. If it was based purely on footy and not publicity for the game then I don't think the others should be in the conversation either.
I just struggle to understand how there's 13 chosen from the last 100 years and now people want three or four from the same generation, it shows a huge bias to current players.

Liverpool_Bulldog wrote:I currently have Offa and TPJ as my FRFs
I would be happy with 40+s every week from those two.

Or should I be looking for more?

If you are only expecting 40s (I assume average of 42-45) then you would be better off playing Fifita and Haas potentially whilst saving a trade and some coin.
The plan would be to get 2017's Vaughan or 2018's Alvaro for around the price of a 40 point average.

This year one or two or three of the following list will average around 50.

TPJ, TWAL, JOff, Lodge, LAM, Vaughan, Tolman.

I prefer to go for more explosive TB types that will get a bump in minutes (the minutes is the trick - provided they have the fitness).

1) TWAL if starting lock (average 39 minutes last year)
2) TPJ if playing 50+ minutes
3) LAM if playing 50+ minutes (averaged 39 minutes last year)
4) JOff if starting lock

Tolman, Lodge and Vaughan don't fill me with the same confidence.

So what's this new video that is supposed to be about to become public involving three players?

Listened to Stacey Jones on the Radio yesterday - he gave away very little to be honest. Asked directly about the halves he said zilch, however when asked who has impressed him the most so far, he first said Keighran and the Burr, adding that Burr is probably the fittest in their squad.

I think Burr could be inline to play big minutes at lock. I stand to be corrected but Kearney tends to go with a utility on the bench and the props dont play big minutes. As a result they'll likely go with Harris and Papalii playing 80 min and need prefer a Manuring type big minute lock. If err is any god then it sounds like he has the motor to fill that role.

Liverpool_Bulldog wrote:I currently have Offa and TPJ as my FRFs
I would be happy with 40+s every week from those two.

Or should I be looking for more?

Should be looking for more mate. I'd say you should be looking for minimum 5 point value on all FRF and 2RF unless you are picking guns, in which case you could argue the even value is OK.

With that said I think, as demonstrated for Ofa by several people, there are cases to be made for each of these guys to provide at least that 5 point value.

Some good thoughts on Ofa, has anyone managed to untangle TPJs stats from last year and try and price him for this year? For starters, we are assuming he is starting at prop right? Limited sample size on him but from what I can see you'll be banking on him improving his fantasy game/more minutes/a season without being plagued by injury (assuming he was plagued by that last year).

For me, Im struggling to put numbers to him, so Im tending away, despite the known x-factor cause I'd rather go with someone with less uncertainty.

How are the rest of you seeing him?

Iron Mike wrote:

If you are only expecting 40s (I assume average of 42-45) then you would be better off playing Fifita and Haas potentially whilst saving a trade and some coin.
The plan would be to get 2017's Vaughan or 2018's Alvaro for around the price of a 40 point average.

This year one or two or three of the following list will average around 50.

TPJ, TWAL, JOff, Lodge, LAM, Vaughan, Tolman.

I prefer to go for more explosive TB types that will get a bump in minutes (the minutes is the trick - provided they have the fitness).

1) TWAL if starting lock (average 39 minutes last year)
2) TPJ if playing 50+ minutes
3) LAM if playing 50+ minutes (averaged 39 minutes last year)
4) JOff if starting lock

Tolman, Lodge and Vaughan don't fill me with the same confidence.

Very keen on Twal if he gets that lock spot. If he does I'll partner him with whomever gets the lock spot at the Broncos.

Lots of what ifs.

My bench has no forwards on it at all so it's something i need to address

Also, does anyone want to take a crack at Crichton and Matterson? Heres my quick take so far:

Angus Crichton (ave 55) averaged 60 the year before. Wondering if he could get back to 2017 levels with the added bonus of playing for Sydney? If so might be hard to ignore as, potentially 5 points undervalued and season keeper.

Matterson (ave 46) was averaging 53 when starting 2RF but bear in mind this was for Sydney (not wests) and included 5 tries in those 10 games (many from kicks if I recall correctly). Concerns over concussion too and has utility value which hurt him last year. Maybe 5-10 points undervalued and therefore potential keeper, but that needs to be balanced with quite a high level of uncertainty.

Krump wrote:
Smith will be and deserving so. If it was based purely on footy and not publicity for the game then I don't think the others should be in the conversation either.
I just struggle to understand how there's 13 chosen from the last 100 years and now people want three or four from the same generation, it shows a huge bias to current players.

Slater revolutionized the way fullbacks play the game. Fullbacks were purely a support players not really doing much more than chiming in on back line plays. Now they must be dominant play makers able to make decisions and generate overlaps. His defensive game is also second to none. Prime Slater would cover ground at the back like no one else. Seeing Slater get to kick after kick on the full would deflate the opposition play makers and put the Storm on the front foot. All that without even mentioning his communication skills on the field in organizing the defense. One of the all time greats and has a real case for best fullback of all time.

Is Lomax the only cow that guys will happily play in the 13.

Currently have him at CTR but hoping to get someone into WFB.

Liverpool_Bulldog wrote:Is Lomax the only cow that guys will happily play in the 13.

Currently have him at CTR but hoping to get someone into WFB.

13, or 17.

Ill probably have two in my 13 and 2 on the bench, and thats not even counting Egan. Actually if Egan and Mahoney don't get the #9 ots going to throw out a hell of a lot of teams

CNK (Warriors) is on the move from the warriors. Rumoured to end up at Canberra. Could he get a start?

Rippin and Tearin wrote:Also, does anyone want to take a crack at Crichton and Matterson? Heres my quick take so far:

Angus Crichton (ave 55) averaged 60 the year before. Wondering if he could get back to 2017 levels with the added bonus of playing for Sydney? If so might be hard to ignore as, potentially 5 points undervalued and season keeper.

Matterson (ave 46) was averaging 53 when starting 2RF but bear in mind this was for Sydney (not wests) and included 5 tries in those 10 games (many from kicks if I recall correctly). Concerns over concussion too and has utility value which hurt him last year. Maybe 5-10 points undervalued and therefore potential keeper, but that needs to be balanced with quite a high level of uncertainty.

The way I see it you either pick up 1 of Arrow/Chricton/JTurbo/Lolo - Probably in that order in terms of my preference.

Then steer clear of Matterson as plays for Tigers/concussion issues/value in other must have players such as Murray/Stimson. There are other value players much cheaper e.g. Papalli.

Burr obtaining the Warriors lock position has been mentioned a few times, but the guys 27 and hasn't been a regular 1st grader at any club his played for before, so why the hell would he be in the running for a starting gig now. Are the Warriors that desperate?

The one thing he does have in his favour is having a coach who has no idea and might take a punt on him because he's clueless.

StormTrooper96 wrote:CNK (Warriors) is on the move from the warriors. Rumoured to end up at Canberra. Could he get a start?

He'd be a good chance of nabbin a spot on Rapanas wing.

I remember yesterday someone saying something about a player who was ahead of CHN at panthers but was injured when it was time to stand up so CHN got the gig instead of him. Who was that?

my tv broke wrote:

13, or 17.

Ill probably have two in my 13 and 2 on the bench, and thats not even counting Egan. Actually if Egan and Mahoney don't get the #9 ots going to throw out a hell of  a lot of teams

Have a whole load of cows on the bench/int.

Want to try and go 1 cow in the CTR and 1 cow in the WFB spot

I hadn't even thought about them not getting a spot