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    NRL Fantasy 2019 thread part 6

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    Post by Welshy Mon Feb 18, 2019 8:36 pm

    Camo123 wrote:Is starting D Brown a good idea?

    Tossing up between where my 2nd keeper level player should be - WFB, HLF or 2RF. Basically with the DPPs I have and moving around the interchange I have a few options.

    Basically if you had 820k to fill a position in 2RF, HLF or WFB who would you pick? (If in 2RF I start D Brown)

    most will have him on the scoring bench so i don't see much difference in starting with him mate, obviously spending the cash elsewhere upgrading.

    I think a few will pair him with a gun half to potentially soften the blow of him going south ala Elgey. I'll probably be running the risk of starting him or warriors half with Morgan and hoping he elevates to previous non JT levels and using the cash elsewhere
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    Post by Guest Mon Feb 18, 2019 8:42 pm

    Camo123 wrote:Is starting D Brown a good idea?

    Tossing up between where my 2nd keeper level player should be - WFB, HLF or 2RF. Basically with the DPPs I have and moving around the interchange I have a few options.

    Basically if you had 820k to fill a position in 2RF, HLF or WFB who would you pick? (If in 2RF I start D Brown)

    No problem starting D. Brown but only if your other half is a top line gun like DCE, Cleary, SJ etc. My starting halves are Cleary, D. Brown.
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    Post by Camo123 Mon Feb 18, 2019 8:42 pm

    most will have him on the scoring bench so i don't see much difference in starting with him mate, obviously spending the cash elsewhere upgrading. I think a few will pair him with a gun half to potentially soften the blow of him going south ala Elgey. I'll probably be running the risk of starting him or warriors half with Morgan and hoping he elevates to previous non JT levels and using the cash elsewhere wrote:

    Thanks mate, I'm looking at the same strategy at the current moment (in before another trial happens and one of my players performs crap and I instantly kneejerk them out)
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    Post by Welshy Mon Feb 18, 2019 8:44 pm

    White Lightning wrote:

    No problem starting D. Brown but only if your other half is a top line gun like DCE, Cleary, SJ etc. My starting halves are Cleary, D. Brown.

    I wouldn't say they HAVE to be a top line gun, just mitigates the risk of Brown failing miserably already having a gun there, If he goes well his halves partner doesn't really matter

    infact means you have a boat load of cash for better bench options or a big upgrade elsewhere
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    Post by Goodnight Kiwi Mon Feb 18, 2019 9:00 pm

    There seems to be some great mid-range WFB options who could make a jump to Gun status this year. As these 3 are all within 30k~ of each other, should they all get the #1 gig, how do you see them going this year?
    My order currently:
    1. DEdwards
    2. Drinkwater
    3. Watson
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    Post by Welshy Mon Feb 18, 2019 9:12 pm

    Goodnight Kiwi wrote:There seems to be some great mid-range WFB options who could make a jump to Gun status this year. As these 3 are all within 30k~ of each other, should they all get the #1 gig, how do you see them going this year?
    My order currently:
    1. DEdwards
    2. Drinkwater
    3. Watson

    I think Edwards in undervalued but his 22 game average minus injury is 46, so has the potential to elevate as he has a low try scoring rate. But his in increase to uber WFB gun will need to come from a try scoring glut.

    I think the other 2 have more potential, but the sample size is extremly low at this level for both, especially drinkwater, all I know is if he keeps Hughes out of the 1 shirt I'll be grabbing him! His lower grade fantasy scoring output pretty much beat Ponga.

    Watson has a big average from playing fullback, but again a low sample size, but shows he can hit the big ones playing there, 49.5 in 4 games
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    Post by Guest Mon Feb 18, 2019 9:22 pm

    Warriors and tigers trial will be streamed on the warriors website. Only official trial for the tigers, so would expect a strong line-up.
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    Post by churg Mon Feb 18, 2019 9:32 pm

    Would you pick -
    (A) Holland + Kahu + $212-$228 player for my last intercgange spot.
    (B) Hunt + Meaney + Kahu for my last Interchange spot.
    Cheers.
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    Post by Fortitude Mon Feb 18, 2019 9:52 pm

    churg wrote:Would you pick -
    (A) Holland + Kahu + $212-$228 player for my last intercgange spot.
    (B) Hunt + Meaney + Kahu for my last Interchange spot.
    Cheers.

    What ever option three is.
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    Post by mattnz Mon Feb 18, 2019 10:19 pm

    churg wrote:Would you pick -
    (A) Holland + Kahu + $212-$228 player for my last intercgange spot.
    (B) Hunt + Meaney + Kahu for my last Interchange spot.
    Cheers.

    Kahu is in both so is actually:
    A) Holland and $228k player vs
    B) Hunt and Meaney

    I'd go A
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    Post by CubanMafiaSandSlugs Mon Feb 18, 2019 10:19 pm

    Chewie wrote:Not sure about Radley after that game. If he's only going to get 50ish minutes and does the decoy runs he might not be worth it.
    Now to find a worthy replacement. I already have Arrow, Murray and Stimson. Maybe Gillet or Whitehead? Any other suggestions?

    Just on Radley, not much has changed from end of last year. He will score around 38-40 per game on average from 50 mins. He's a no go IMO. Trent Robinson will always sub his lock and give them a 50/30 min split at largest variance. Alternatively, if Robinson was playing Radley 80 mins on an edge, he'd be a lock down buy and would score 50+ most weeks IMO. In his 2nd row games last season from the start, he averaged around 43 in an average of 62 mins. At that PPM, that would project his score to 55 approx in 80 mins. Gun level. Add another year's experience and power as he builds towards his prime years, and you'd have a lockdown gun. But i just don't see it in a 50 min lock forward role. He doesn't have the Taumalolo or Taupau power. Yet.

    Starting lock always seems to get everyone's hopes way up though, usually more than they should be. That is thanks to the days of prime CP13, PG13 & SB13!

    Starting locks in general are props these days, since the 8 man interchange was introduced especially. Effectively the same role. 3 starting big men in the middle at 8, 10 & 13 playing between 40 and 55 mins each, with 3 on the bench to sub them out. Two edge back rowers play 80 each, and a hooker/utility as 4th sub. That's the ideal combination.

    Of course, there are still a couple of outliers at lock like Trbojevic in particular, and maybe Arrow & Nathan Brown when fully fit and firing, but I think you really need to assess each player on his own merits/minutes/output expected.
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    Post by CubanMafiaSandSlugs Mon Feb 18, 2019 10:46 pm

    White Lightning wrote:I still don't understand the rationale of the Cowboys buying Kahu. To think he was probably going to play reserve grade for the Broncos so the Cowboys have essentially purchased a washed up reserve grader who is past his prime & is injury prone.

    Kahu to play centre apparently. Hampton fullback. Heard from a few sources, ITK's etc.

    Despite his injury issues, I think it's more a necessary signing than a luxury choice type signing, given the timing etc.

    Although in saying that, they should have had a contingency plan in place ready for when Barba committed his 42nd off field indiscretion and shortened up their depth.
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    Post by Chewie Mon Feb 18, 2019 11:13 pm

    Love your work Cuban! you and MS have some solid analysis
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    Post by my tv broke Mon Feb 18, 2019 11:18 pm

    Welshy wrote:

    Can't see it mate, can't them them time sharing the 9 role. Could be wrong

    I read from some SC bloke on twitter that Tyrone May would get the "utility" position on the panthers bench. Sounds like they'll try push whoever does get the 9 close to 80
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    Post by Welshy Mon Feb 18, 2019 11:34 pm

    my tv broke wrote:

    I read from some SC bloke on twitter that Tyrone May would get the "utility" position on the panthers bench. Sounds like they'll try push whoever does get the 9 close to 80

    Was on about the Titans with that statement fella! Hope the panthers 9 race is run by Egan though for excellent bench option if he plays 80 or at least close to it!
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    Post by RandomSil Mon Feb 18, 2019 11:37 pm

    churg wrote:Would you pick -
    (A) Holland + Kahu + $212-$228 player for my last intercgange spot.
    (B) Hunt + Meaney + Kahu for my last Interchange spot.
    Cheers.

    A for me as well. I know I said I like Kahu as an option if he gets goal kicking. But yeah now not so sure.
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    Post by Guest Tue Feb 19, 2019 12:21 am

    CubanMafiaSandSlugs wrote:

    Kahu to play centre apparently. Hampton fullback. Heard from a few sources, ITK's etc.

    Despite his injury issues, I think it's more a necessary signing than a luxury choice type signing, given the timing etc.

    Although in saying that, they should have had a contingency plan in place ready for when Barba committed his 42nd off field indiscretion and shortened up their depth.

    playing Kahu at centre would be worse than playing him at fullback honestly, it's the reason he fell out of favour at the Broncos in the first place, he was pretty terrible positionally and defensively, the only thing that saved his spot last year was us not being allowed to play Kotoni there
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    Post by Enchanted Glossy Flamingo Tue Feb 19, 2019 5:40 am

    Blain wrote:Surprised no one is picking up Roache or Papalii from the Warriors. Roache is a chance of taking the 9 this season, as well as Luke being injured (though haven't heard an update lately). Papa is moving to lock and is known as being one of the young defenders in the game, minutes is his question mark, but played 80 mins regularly last season.

    I've currently stacked my team with mid range cows, with some solid keepers in the mix, and a splash of bottom dollar cows. Don't like trading backs, but don't like splashing on them. That'll be my hardest point to get right.

    Gillett is another who is featuring much, has been a regular 48-50 point player until last season, I can't see him getting anything other than 80 minutes of game time. Inside word suggest otherwise or what?

    I Pap has been in my team for the last two weeks, he's easily the most interesting 2RF around that 500-550k mark and he's a total weapon. Whitehead has regularly let me down the last few years and who knows what goes on in Sticky's head
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    Post by Iron Mike Tue Feb 19, 2019 7:15 am

    Sorry if I'm missing the point but those going with Friend, Macca why? I guess if you are keeping them it makes sense but likely they will not be in the top three hookers come end of year. Likely you will want Cook and Smith at some stage this year.

    Also those with Tolman, how much will he actually improve if not starting at lock. In a rotation with Napa, Sue, RFM etc will he actually hit the scores you want? I've noticed in the last few years he has started to slow down and miss tackles as a result. He is not without risk because as soon as those minutes go you could end up with a mid 30s scorer.
    I'm waiting on who is going to get the Tigers and Broncos lock spots before even considering the likes of Tolman, LAM, Twal, Offa, TPJ. Will make it an easy pick if TPJ gets the lock spot I feel.
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    Post by Welshy Tue Feb 19, 2019 7:47 am

    Iron Mike wrote:Sorry if I'm missing the point but those going with Friend, Macca why? I guess if you are keeping them it makes sense but likely they will not be in the top three hookers come end of year. Likely you will want Cook and Smith at some stage this year.

    Also those with Tolman, how much will he actually improve if not starting at lock. In a rotation with Napa, Sue, RFM etc will he actually hit the scores you want? I've noticed in the last few years he has started to slow down and miss tackles as a result. He is not without risk because as soon as those minutes go you could end up with a mid 30s scorer.
    I'm waiting on who is going to get the Tigers and Broncos lock spots before even considering the likes of Tolman, LAM, Twal, Offa, TPJ. Will make it an easy pick if TPJ gets the lock spot I feel.
    Like anything when not starting with a gun you are expecting more out of the pair! Both are undervalued to what they have previously done in previous fantasy years, Macca has 3/6 seasons of scoring 55+, Friend is similar. Same with all players who don’t hit gun status you have to use a trade upgrading them later in the season! You save a shed load not starting with Cook, Cam and McInnes and both Macca and Friend have previously gone close to the scoring of the abformentioned.

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