NRL Fantasy 2019 Part 18

Team at present:

Mahoney
Fifita Taupau
Lolo Arrow Murray
Keighran DBrown
Holland Nikora
Watson Dedwards Burns

Lane
Niukore
Garner
Lawrie

Roache
Burr
Ravalawa
Sivo

Michael Morgan is my must with only Watson as hooker cover, my thinking is first trade Watson to Morgan. Good trade? Rava will have to come into 17 for 1 of DBrown or Keighran.

manlybeaver wrote:
I will be until I can upgrade.to Teddy or turbo

I've set my eyes on getting Teddy. I've dropped Edwards for now so I can work towards getting Teddy. Hopefully he won't get his BE in the next couple rounds so I can get him at a nice discount. I don't expect him to stay cheap for long.
After this round's trades I have 130k ITB plus Glasby (EMG) which I can hopefully convert into Teddy in a week or 2

lubedragon wrote:Between Lawrie or host who would be the preffered option to trade out for Napa. also do you think radley to gillet is a smart trade or would you go bateman? finished the weekend on 938

I want to know the same but I think this will be partially answered on TLT. After that you need to grab a crystal ball and guess:

1. when JDB returns
2. when Frizzel returns (1 week like Capewell or 6 weeks on the high end recovery)
3. What Sims coming back from suspension next week does
4. How long will Dufty be the utility for? If him coming on pushes Hunt to hooker does McInnes get in on the forward rotation at Hosts expense (Note: I have no idea how logical this is but Dufty on the bench is unusual and I'm not sure how/what they plan for him to come in...)

The only thing we do know is that Lawrie is a part of the FRF rotation so I'd expect him to be more heavily impacted by Sims return. Host feels safer to me as he's more in the edge rotation so you are sweating Frizzel and JDBs return. He already played big minutes with the Friz so I'm leaning that way.

Regarding Radley without knowing your full team Bateman is a CTR keeper and someone I rate as a must have while Gillett is a nice to have. Radley has the most money in him if he hits 45s and Gillett/Bateman hit 50s so unless you think Radley is a dud you are better off holding. If you do think he's a dud I'd vote Bateman.

Iron Mike wrote:Team at present:

Mahoney
Fifita Taupau
Lolo Arrow Murray
Keighran DBrown
Holland Nikora
Watson Dedwards Burns

Lane
Niukore
Garner
Lawrie

Roache
Burr
Ravalawa
Sivo

Michael Morgan is my must with only Watson as hooker cover, my thinking is first trade Watson to Morgan. Good trade? Rava will have to come into 17 for 1 of DBrown or Keighran.

CNK for Watson and Sivo to Morgan.

A fullback should give more reliable scores than playing Sivo/Rava roulette. You also keep cover and the slowest cow goes to Morgan.

Although when Luke comes back you'll want Roache gone quick and Burr could be in a similar spot (Ipap return). I'd re-assess post TLT

Chewie wrote:
I've set my eyes on getting Teddy. I've dropped Edwards for now so I can work towards getting Teddy. Hopefully he won't get his BE in the next couple rounds so I can get him at a nice discount. I don't expect him to stay cheap for long.
After this round's trades I have 130k ITB plus Glasby (EMG) which I can hopefully convert into Teddy in a week or 2

Thats 610k. That needs Teddy to average 35 for the next 3 weeks for that to happen.....

45s has him at 680k. Teddy is the type of player that will have a boom game sooner or later so I think you need Glasby to have another good week or two or make a plan to find more money somewhere.

Any reason why you are angling for Teddy so hard over say Crichton who will likely fall further?

Cap'n Ranta wrote:

CNK for Watson and Sivo to Morgan.

A fullback should give more reliable scores than playing Sivo/Rava roulette. You also keep cover and the slowest cow goes to Morgan.

Although when Luke comes back you'll want Roache gone quick and Burr could be in a similar spot (Ipap return). I'd re-assess post TLT

I think I'm happy with Ravalawa for now, 10 tackle breaks is impressive and if Aitken passed on two occasions he probably would have had a try or 2.
Not sure CNK is a trade in versus Storm and I don't have the bank, not involved in attack structures, and I think the wet actually helped him to break tackles.

Roache and Burr will become someone that bottoms out in 2-4 weeks time.

My other trade idea was Sivo for Host but this looks sideways at best. Sivo could make as much as Host in the next 6 weeks and I save the trade. Just needs to jag a try and he will be away. Plus I don't rate Host at all, very average player.

Liverpool_Bulldog wrote:Morning lads. Trades I'm looking at:

Holland > BSmith
Sivo > Lawrie

Friend
Fifita, Tolman
Arrow, Murray, Gillett
Morgan, Keighran
Capewell, Nikora
Teddy, Edwards, Burns

Radley, BSmith, Garner, Lawrie
Morris, Sele, Brown, Ravalawa

Happy to move on from Holland/Sivo with the decent depth provided by Morris/Ravalawa
Quite a fan of young Smithers as well

Thoughts gents?

You could just go holland to lawrie and sit on sivo and the cash. Capewell and Nikora are clearly your starting ctr pairing and then you have burns to cover.
You'll have to upgrade one of your rookie outside backs to a forward eventually just not sure if B Smith is the best option. Someone else might pop up next week.

Rabbit wrote:The Brown injury may be a blessing in disguise. Forces a trade to Bateman and I can put Burns back to FB. I’ll bring Garner into the starting 13. Leaves me with $232k for next week. I could go James > Fifita as well, leaving $100k, but I really think he needs one more week. Surely, 25 is his outlier and whatever Brennan did with the forwards last week clearly didn’t work. Dunno.

I would be aggressive & trade R. James to Fifita. James came into round 1 having not played much in pre season & was carrying an injury. This week they will not have A. Taylor & T. Roberts (both out due to injury) & they travel to the Shire to play the Sharks. Fifita will piss all over James.

lubedragon wrote:Between Lawrie or host who would be the preffered option to trade out for Napa. also do you think radley to gillet is a smart trade or would you go bateman? finished the weekend on 938

I would personally prefer Bateman if you have to make the trade. Gillett role/minutes once TPJ comes back into the starting side along with Lodge is still all conjecture at the moment.

BTW nice score and good luck for the rounds ahead.

Was pretty set on Holland + Radley for Bateman + Lawrie but thought going to Friend + Bird is a better option job security wise mainly because of the unknown between Lawrie/Host?

Thoughts?

Also of my current team the following play round 12.

Mahoney, DBrown, Lane, Niukore, Murray, Taumololo, Taupau, Holland, DEdwards, Burns.
Will try do my best to not trade these guys until after then although things may change quickly with players like Mahoney/Holland/Edwards/Burns/Niukore.

Potential other keepers - Fifita, Arrow and Nikora.

So it's crucial I utilize cash made from Garner, Lawrie, Ravalawa, Roache, Burr and find good cash cows to replace them with.

I know someone on here mentioned an Arrow to Bateman trade, like for like and much cheaper and Bateman does play round 12 and won't be getting any cheaper.

Iron Mike wrote:Also of my current team the following play round 12.

Mahoney, DBrown, Lane, Niukore, Murray, Taumololo, Taupau, Holland, DEdwards, Burns.
Will try do my best to not trade these guys until after then although things may change quickly with players like Mahoney/Holland/Edwards/Burns/Niukore.

Potential other keepers - Fifita, Arrow and Nikora.

So it's crucial I utilize cash made from Garner, Lawrie, Ravalawa, Roache, Burr and find good cash cows to replace them with.

I know someone on here mentioned an Arrow to Bateman trade, like for like and much cheaper and Bateman does play round 12 and won't be getting any cheaper.

Mate that is a wild shout! Bateman has played 1 NRL game, I’ve watched him all his career and I’m still unsure on his true fantasy value! To say him and Arrow who has an average over 55 without injury affected games is mental

Joey Superior wrote:Was pretty set on Holland + Radley for Bateman + Lawrie but thought going to Friend + Bird is a better option job security wise mainly because of the unknown between Lawrie/Host?

Thoughts?

I'm on exact same trades and thinking Bird instead of Lawrie

Edit: Oops 4k short

Shumway wrote:So many options after week 1. The potential cows that I’m missing are Lawrie, Bird and Burns. The underpriced middies that I’m missing are Bateman, Gillett and Niukore. I feel the middies are the better options to chase at the moment.

Only ways I can get Bateman in seem to involve trading out Arrow.

Is it too sideways and reactive to trade Arrow and Holland to Bateman and Gillett?

Could do Edwards and Holland to Bateman and Bird with a bit of shuffling the bench (means Ravalawa enters my 13).

Thoughts?

You and I are thinking along the same lines mate: Im missing Lawrie and Bird, and the underpriced middies Im missing is Bateman (although I dont have Niukore either, he's not on my radar).

I agree with you in that I think the middies are the better options as twhile they will make less money, they are starting 17 players (potentially keepers) and will improve your weekly score.

Therefore Im tending to give up Holland and Napa to get Bateman + the best CC I can in my price range (Im $5k short of Lawrie).

Where we differ is Im not sure I could bring my self to trade Arrow. I could lose Edwards though, particularly seeing as you have Ravalawa. Can you then get Gillett next week (and could you get Gillett first and Bateman second, that order makes more sense in terms of money, but perhaps doesn't work in terms of positions).

I don’t see Nikora as a keeper. Once graham is back I’d expect him to drop to the bench or even out of the squad. He may be talented enough to prove me wrong though

Ponga Yeo the Mann wrote:I don’t see Nikora as a keeper. Once graham is back I’d expect him to drop to the bench or even out of the squad. He may be talented enough to prove me wrong though

Will likely need 80 until Graham gets back to be classed as a keeper, so potential R12 keeper with season keeper potential I’d nail him as!

What trades would you make of this was your team?

McCullough
Fifita Tolman
Murray Arrow Lane
Morgan Keighran
Holland Capewell
Kahu Hughes Burns

Friend Mahoney Garner Sironen

Nikora Host Ravalawa Brown

Cheers guys. Not many underperformers really but want to be aggressive early making cash or bringing in the “right” players

Kahu will be traded or EMG this week I’d say

Holland, possibly lane, kahu the most likely outs depending on who I go for.

Bateman, lawrie, bird, CNK in targets

Any help appreciated!

Holland + Whitehead to Bird + Bateman is sideways right??

Left myself with minimal funds which has come back to bite me, and my only real underperformers were Holland and Teddy (who I won't even entertain trading with Eagles and Eels as next 2)

Ponga Yeo the Mann wrote:I don’t see Nikora as a keeper. Once graham is back I’d expect him to drop to the bench or even out of the squad. He may be talented enough to prove me wrong though

Im not sure anyone is suggesting he is.. are they?

He is a must have though - 80min basement price 2RF with short term job security, plays on SJs side, so will get put through some gaps.

The two keeper Cs (if I had to take the punt right now) will be Mitchell and Bateman.

I wouldn't be surprised to see Meaney come in at fullback for Dogs and Hoppa move back to centre to firm things up a bit. Montoya was awful and caught out numerous times, but admittedly so was Holland. I think 3 out of his 5 missed tackles was RTS shimmying and leaving him in his dust, to set up a try!
Holland is a definite hold though. And maybe RTS score was overstated due to the ease in which he scored his points.

I'm not surprised to see the various ludicrous annual pre-round-2 trades being thrown around as people jostle and knee-jerk after 1 round and not much context. Re-shuffling entire team and sacrificing guns to bring in relatively unknown players who've hit a good score.

There are a couple of obvious trade ins and outs. But aside that, I think we all need to remember it's round 1 where almost every game was played in the pouring rain. One score isn't enough to make season long decisions off. We need at least 3-4 weeks to see how things pan out.

In saying that, it's vitally important to make quick cash early on to progress your team towards 18/19 guns as quickly as possible ready for the run in. So there is a balance which needs to be met.

Anyway, my two bobs.

Crazy trade out suggestions I've seen IMO: Edwards, Arrow, Taupau, Cherry Evans, Johnson, Tedesco, Burns, Lane, Holland.

Breathe everyone. It's round 1.