NRL Fantasy 2019 Part 37

Buramada wrote:I am confused by the motivation to choose players you would not normally choose in any case who play Round 12. There are not enough trades available to transform your team between Round 12 and Round 16 to make sure you have enough players, nor would this be wise. The way I see it you either go well in Round 12 or Round 16 and the priority should be getting keepers ASAP in all positions rather than focusing on a small benefit in one round.

Any thoughts to the contrary?

Yep, like what someone said earlier. You want keepers as early as possible regardless of what round. If you can get a rd 16 keeper now at a low price. Crazy to miss is.

You want to try have cows playing rd 12 now, who peak rd 13. to then milk to cows and guns playing rd 16. From there. get to final 17 as fast as possible. I think a lot of peoples team will remain the same from a while from next weekend until the bye rounds.

Buramada wrote:I am confused by the motivation to choose players you would not normally choose in any case who play Round 12. There are not enough trades available to transform your team between Round 12 and Round 16 to make sure you have enough players, nor would this be wise. The way I see it you either go well in Round 12 or Round 16 and the priority should be getting keepers ASAP in all positions rather than focusing on a small benefit in one round.

Any thoughts to the contrary?

Agree for the most part with the changes over the last few years. Yes, probably the best balance to attack Byes nowadays is to have a very solid team for one and not worry too much about the other.


Every year someone here sits down and runs the scenarios. For me, I don't mind trading hard to get the numbers up for both, but this is a remnant for myself and alot of others from having a pretty severe Bye trading addiction from the old days.

Well now im confused.

Why does everyone think that origin players won't be rested round 14 for origin? The usual practice is you play your game, take the week off, go to camp, play another 3 days later. 10 Day turn around, now it's a 14 day turn around. So do they get less prep now, 7 days, or more at 14 days?

You have to pick 1, and with all the press about players being overworked why would they get less days off now?

SI wrote:

Agree for the most part with the changes over the last few years.  Yes, probably the best balance to attack Byes nowadays is to have a very solid team for one and not worry too much about the other.


Every year someone here sits down and runs the scenarios.  For me, I don't mind trading hard to get the numbers up for both, but this is a remnant for myself and alot of others from having a pretty severe Bye trading addiction from the old days.

I think the best way to go about it is try pick up a few RD 12 cows from here on who will play (preferably a bigger role) in RD 12 and will peak between RD 13 and 16 to which you can turn into guns.

my tv broke wrote:

I think Garner is just an easy option out of the players people have, since he's had a couple of injury concerns and doesn't play round 12.

I traded him out last week (for Cook). I didn't necessarily want to get rid of him, but I really wanted to grab Cook when I had the chance. Got pretty lucky with the HIA, but it was him or Niukore and I wanted Niukore for round 12 (of course, Niukore copped a HIA as well and only played 50 mins).

The worst of a gud bunch scenario hey.

my tv broke wrote:Tony Webeck
@TonyWebeck
Bryce Cartwright has left Titans training very early. Told me he was off to do some swimming but appeared to be limping.

Thats all I need, have James, Nikora, RTS, Carty, Burns.

my tv broke wrote:Tony Webeck
@TonyWebeck
Bryce Cartwright has left Titans training very early. Told me he was off to do some swimming but appeared to be limping.

Thats all I need, have James, Nikora, RTS, Carty, CNK, Burns.

lukeaye wrote:Well now im confused.

Why does everyone think that origin players won't be rested round 14 for origin? The usual practice is you play your game, take the week off, go to camp, play another 3 days later. 10 Day turn around, now it's a 14 day turn around. So do they get less prep now, 7 days, or more at 14 days?

You have to pick 1, and with all the press about players being overworked why would they get less days off now?

I don't think it changes for Origin 1 and Origin 3. And I think with the stand alone weekend over the Origin campaign less players get rested, not more?

Did you forget the Draw changes mate? It's okay, I can't remember what happened this morning

Or where I am.

And how I got here.

Wherever here is.

SI wrote:

I don't think it changes for Origin 1 and Origin 3.  And I think with the stand alone weekend over the Origin campaign less players get rested, not more?  

Did you forget the Draw changes mate?  It's okay, I can't remember what happened this morning  

Or where I am.

And how I got here.

No no no. My dates are in reference to origin game 2.

I admit nothing.

And i'f im wrong i'll be silent and hope nobody notices.

lukeaye wrote:Well now im confused.

Why does everyone think that origin players won't be rested round 14 for origin? The usual practice is you play your game, take the week off, go to camp, play another 3 days later. 10 Day turn around, now it's a 14 day turn around. So do they get less prep now, 7 days, or more at 14 days?

You have to pick 1, and with all the press about players being overworked why would they get less days off now?

Some players don't need that extra rest. Look at G.Cooper... Only missed 2 games last year (1 due to bye round) and played all 3 Origin games.

Wacko replying to a tweet about CS9 kicking. Said Bellyache expects him to kick this week.

lukeaye wrote:

No no no. My dates are in reference to origin game 2.

I admit nothing.

And i'f im wrong i'll be silent and hope nobody notices.

You've already double dipped right here aye cuz

StormTrooper96 wrote:

Some players don't need that extra rest. Look at G.Cooper... Only missed 2 games last year (1 due to bye round) and played all 3 Origin games.

So players have 2 options for Origin 2. The norm is 10 days off before a game.

Option 1. rest 14 days before origin 2.

Option 2. Rest 7 days before origin 2.

Everyone here seems to be assuming its going to be option 2, and I'm asking if that is realistic?

Milchy wrote:
Anyone tempted by Herbert, using logic like Xerri that once in the team he'll stay there

Herbert is very tempting, not sure how helpful this is but these are his key 2018/19 NSW Cup Numbers.
Herbert 2018 - per game avgs (Ctr #'s in brackets) - 47.09 (35.3) fantasy points, 5.77 (3.6) tackle busts, 158.77 (122) run metres, 0.54 (0.4) tries.
Herbert 2019 - per game avgs (Ctr #'s in brackets) - 33.6 (31.33) fantasy points, 3.6 (2.67) tackle busts, 136.8 (129.33) run metres, 0.8 (1) tries.

The rest of his games were spent at Fullback where his numbers were much better.

On resting players after origin, I can see the Roosters POSSIBLY resting a couple of players because they don't have a salary cap so can replace them with genuine first graders, but other than that, most teams will be needing their best players on the field whenever possible.

Still can’t beleive how out of touch the nrl is regarding the second origin being on a Sunday night.

lukeaye wrote:

So players have 2 options for Origin 2. The norm is 10 days off before a game.

Option 1. rest 14 days before origin 2.

Option 2. Rest 7 days before origin 2.

Everyone here seems to be assuming its going to be option 2, and I'm asking if that is realistic?

The teams are picked after the round prior to Origin 2. QLD tend to pick theirs on the Sunday night and NSW tend to pick theirs the Monday morning. So this means they only get 7-8 days in camp for Origin 2.

EDIT: So Origin 2 teams will be picked after the completion of RD 14 this year.

Trades I'm thinking week. (any feedback suggestions welcome)
Tolman => Ponga
Bird => Xerri


Giving me:
Cook 
A. Fifita P. Haas 
J. Arrow L. Garner C. Murray 
C. Munster M. Morgan
 J. Bateman K. Capewell 
M. Sivo  J. TedescoW K. Ponga

R. Mahoney J. Kahu B. Xerri C. Harris-Tavita
K. Staggs B. Nikora C. Allan J. Okunbor

Just say you have the opportunity to grab Cook as an upgrade right now over Rein, but you decide to hold Rein for now because he plays 12. If we're being generous Rein scores 50 for the next 6 weeks, including a 50 in week 12, and then you trade him. Meanwhile Cook scores 60 for 5 weeks and gets a 0 for week 12, which is ignoring how useful he is as a consistent captain and ignores all the scores >60 that he probably gets, and you have the same amount of points scored in the same time. This example also ignores the amount of money you save buying underpriced guns, which people are doing for the likes of Ponga and Teddy and Cleary, where the differences between players in their position is even more drastic