QLD Maroons

Pain wrote:Qld in trouble if Mitchell Pearce isn't playing

Who gets the nod? ARey?

Bren wrote:
Who gets the nod? ARey?

I'd like to see Soward given another shot

Pain wrote:

I'd like to see Soward given another shot

Yeah McCrone and Soward sounds good!

The Queensland Rugby League has launched an investigation into its annual Emerging Origin camp following revelations several future Maroons stars broke curfew in a night out in Brisbane’s CBD.

News Corporation can reveal the QRL has begun inquiries into allegations young gun Valentine Holmes was involved in an incident with police following a night out with Emerging Origin colleagues in the early hours of Sunday morning.

Maroons coach Kevin Walters confirmed this afternoon a number of players face sanctions for breaking team curfew during the annual Emerging Origin camp.

Walters has since spoken to Melbourne ace Cameron Munster, who confessed to breaking a midnight curfew. Others involved include Broncos duo Anthony Milford and Jarrod Wallace, Roosters hitman Dylan Napa and Newcastle enforcer Korbin Sims.


They should all be stood down from this years series. No room in the game at the elite level for that kind of behaviour.

Your Name wrote:The Queensland Rugby League has launched an investigation into its annual Emerging Origin camp following revelations several future Maroons stars broke curfew in a night out in Brisbane’s CBD.

News Corporation can reveal the QRL has begun inquiries into allegations young gun Valentine Holmes was involved in an incident with police following a night out with Emerging Origin colleagues in the early hours of Sunday morning.

Maroons coach Kevin Walters confirmed this afternoon a number of players face sanctions for breaking team curfew during the annual Emerging Origin camp.

Walters has since spoken to Melbourne ace Cameron Munster, who confessed to breaking a midnight curfew. Others involved include Broncos duo Anthony Milford and Jarrod Wallace, Roosters hitman Dylan Napa and Newcastle enforcer Korbin Sims.


They should all be stood down from this years series. No room in the game at the elite level for that kind of behaviour.

What did they do exactly, aside from breaking curfew?

Straight copy paste of article. Seems like Holmes is the only one who may warrant a stern talking to seeing the police were involved. But sort of thing that needs to be nipped in the bud being half a dozen players if nothing is done it sends the wrong image of origin.

Your Name wrote:Straight copy paste of article. Seems like Holmes is the only one who may warrant a stern talking to seeing the police were involved. But sort of thing that needs to be nipped in the bud being half a dozen players if nothing is done it sends the wrong image of origin.

Especially after Kevvie told them not to go back out. Disappointed in Milf and Wallace but at this stage I see no reason for them to be stood down / miss any club games.

http://www.qrl.com.au/news/2016/02/01/qrl_statement.html

Managing Director Robert Moore has today confirmed the QRL will exclude two players from its representative programs for the next 12 months.

Cronulla Sharks player Valentine Holmes broke curfew during the Emerging Origin camp and is subject to further investigation by the QRL and NRL Integrity Unit.

Melbourne Storm player Cameron Munster has been excluded solely for breaking curfew.

Moore said it was possible that action would be taken against other players if they were identified as breaking curfew.

Maroons coach Kevin Walters expressed his disappointment today.

“On Saturday afternoon we sat down as a group and spoke about the importance of making the right choices,” Walters said.

“Regrettably, there were some players who made poor choices after we had wrapped up the official part of that day’s program.”

While bitterly disappointed with the actions of some individuals, Walters said he took a lot of positives away from the camp.

“I can see a real chemistry amongst them all,” Walters said.

“Although they come from different clubs and have different backgrounds, they’ve been connected over the years through Queensland Rugby League development programs.”

Walters needs to set the tone here and inform all 6 they wont be eligible for selection. Just standing the 2 who are furthest from selection down wont do anything

Shanbon wrote:Walters needs to set the tone here and inform all 6 they wont be eligible for selection. Just standing the 2 who are furthest from selection down wont do anything

For how long? 1 year? Surely the only one who was a chance at origin this year was Napa or Sims.

Only one of them actually got in trouble and you blokes want the whole lot stood down?

Krump wrote:Only one of them actually got in trouble and you blokes want the whole lot stood down?

I never said such a thing.

Bren wrote:

I never said such a thing.

Not you mate. A little bit of state bias going on I reckon

People's thoughts on the punishment? So far we know:

1. Holmes fined by police for being a public nuisance. Suspended from SOO for 2016.
2. Munster breaks curfew, not with Holmes when fined, but suspended for 2016 for breaking curfew and not giving up names of 4 others who did.
3. Milford, Napa, Sims & Wallace alleged to also be out after curfew. No action at this stage.

My take:
1. Can live with the Holmes suspension, though hope he doesn't miss any club games for it given it sounds like a fairly minor thing. If anything I reckon suspension from the first game only would be enough given it's origin. The prestige of origin and $20K per game to me means you can't equate it to club games.
2. Not suspected of wrong-doing other than breaking curfew. I reckon this is tough and is more because he didn't give up his mates. Would those dishing out the punishment have given up their mates? I suspect Kevvie would never have given up Alfie. I hope if the others come forward that is reduced. Not sure if they get paid to attend Emerging Origin camp. If so, then perhaps a fine equal to the payments they received is sufficient and perhaps a 1 match suspended sentence.
3. Minor indescretion by the sounds of it (as was Munster's). I'd be happy with a suspended sentence, and as mentioned above, a fine if they were paid for attending the camp. If they weren't paid, then a suspended sentence should be enough.

1. Holmes should face a light suspension/fine from the NRL pending details coming out as the police were involved unless he decides to fight the fine in which case wait and see. Banning him from selection this year is nothing more than a token gesture at best, he was no chance of playing anyway.
2 and 3 don't seem to have broken any rules other than internal ones within the squad so as far as I'm concerned the QRL can do whatever they want with them.

I thought Holmes was actually arrested

Your Name wrote:I thought Holmes was actually arrested

Looks like he was. Being arrested might be an indicator of wrongdoing but it doesn't guarantee it though.

In 2014 Gagai was stood down for breaking curfew. Im just saying if Walters wants to carry on this QLD mentality built by Meninga he should do the same thing to the 6 guys who broke curfew. Personally i dont think any of the 6 would be selected this year (unless there were a heap of injuries) so it would be the right move for the team. I think its a mistake to just stand down some and not others

the length doesnt matter its the message they need to set, even if the stood all 6 down for game 1 its better then standing down just 2 for the whole series.

The QRL has said further actions may be taken. It sounds like to me they're waiting for stronger proof for the remaining 4. Not sure how they pinged Munster, but not the other 4. Perhaps one of the officials caught him sneaking back in to his room or something.

I reckon Napa would have been a real big chance of being selected even with no injuries.