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    Post by Guest Tue Jul 23, 2019 8:44 pm

    Tigers have re-signed Liddle. Should make Krump happy Razz
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    Post by Eaglestar Tue Jul 23, 2019 8:47 pm

    I can see why Twal was benched. He is great for tackling and doesn't miss but Tigers need some flare to win games and unfortunately Twal does not have it. Reminds me of Tolman and look how the Bulldogs are doing with him (both will only be borderline and never guns for Fantasy purposes). For the teams best interests they need a player like a Taupau who offloads and breaks tackles.
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    Post by Welshy Tue Jul 23, 2019 8:52 pm

    Eaglestar wrote:I can see why Twal was benched. He is great for tackling and doesn't miss but Tigers need some flare to win games and unfortunately Twal does not have it. Reminds me of Tolman and look how the Bulldogs are doing with him (both will only be borderline and never guns for Fantasy purposes). For the teams best interests they need a player like a Taupau who offloads and breaks tackles.

    So they play Oliver Clark over Twal?

    I don't get it, if Twal isn't the explosive type, why bring him off the bench? To tackle tireder players???
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    Post by Eaglestar Tue Jul 23, 2019 8:55 pm

    Welshy wrote:

    So they play Oliver Clark over Twal?

    I don't get it, if Twal isn't the explosive type, why bring him off the bench? To tackle tireder players???

    Guess they are trying something different as won't be Premiership contenders with Twal. If they sign a Taupau like player in the front row they will certainly be a better side. Twal offers nothing but tackles. No attack in him at all.
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    Post by rhinoceroo Tue Jul 23, 2019 8:58 pm

    Eaglestar wrote:

    Guess they are trying something different as won't be Premiership contenders with Twal. If they sign a Taupau like player in the front row they will certainly be a better side. Twal offers nothing but tackles. No attack in him at all.

    Yeah, if only Wests ever had a Taupau-type player.
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    Post by Welshy Tue Jul 23, 2019 8:59 pm

    Eaglestar wrote:

    Guess they are trying something different as won't be Premiership contenders with Twal. If they sign a Taupau like player in the front row they will certainly be a better side. Twal offers nothing but tackles. No attack in him at all.

    Massive slight on Tigers if that's their thinking, Taupau is a top end prop don't find them around often. Twal partnered with someone like that is the way forward

    Nothing wrong with a tacklebot who rarely ever misses and does the hard work. It's his partner they need to change
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    Post by Johnny B Goode Tue Jul 23, 2019 9:06 pm

    How does Robson to Tevaga, 2 trades left and CNK as 18th man for the run home sound?

    I really, really want Munster in my team but after reading this Player's Voice article detailing CNK's journey to first grade, I've changed my mind about trading him out again.  

    Robson to Tevaga can be done in one trade, gives me a potential keeper and bolsters my depth. Anybody else putting up keeper quality numbers 675k and under?
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    Post by Welshy Tue Jul 23, 2019 9:28 pm

    Just use Burns this week to replace Fifita?

    No use wasting a trade is there with only 3 remaining, $52,000 and Fainu to be upgraded later in season?

    Any update on Koro?
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    Post by Ben Marlin Tue Jul 23, 2019 9:34 pm

    Eaglestar wrote:

    Guess they are trying something different as won't be Premiership contenders with Twal. If they sign a Taupau like player in the front row they will certainly be a better side. Twal offers nothing but tackles. No attack in him at all.
    Twal makes 31.4% of his metres post-contact
    Taupau makes 31.1% of his metres post-contact

    I think it's unfair to say that he offers nothing but tackles.

    His TA for Mbye against Manly last year at Campbelltown was one of my favourite moments of 2018

    I think Twal is an extremely good prospect. He is already one of the best defenders in the game and averages over 100m a game. Twal is only 23 which is fairly young. He has time on his side and once he develops an offload he could be one of a top 5 prop.
    Tigers need to lock him up long-term
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    Post by sajjos Tue Jul 23, 2019 9:35 pm

    rhinoceroo wrote:

    Yeah, if only Wests ever had a Taupau-type player.

    They would have called him Martin.
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    Post by Welshy Tue Jul 23, 2019 9:38 pm

    Ben Marlin wrote:
    Twal makes 31.4% of his metres post-contact
    Taupau makes 31.1% of his metres post-contact

    I think it's unfair to say that he offers nothing but tackles.

    His TA for Mbye against Manly last year at Campbelltown was one of my favourite moments of 2018

    I think Twal is an extremely good prospect. He is already one of the best defenders in the game and averages over 100m a game. Twal is only 23 which is fairly young. He has time on his side and once he develops an offload he could be one of a top 5 prop.
    Tigers need to lock him up long-term

    Agreed
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    Post by sajjos Tue Jul 23, 2019 9:41 pm

    Any thoughts on DFifita. He has got 50 as 5 game avg. Does he keep the 2RF spot or is someone missing?
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    Post by The Whittler Tue Jul 23, 2019 9:52 pm

    Season long lurker here looking for some trade help. 4 trades and 291k remaining.

    Cook
    Fifita Haas
    Murray Taupau Lolo
    Ponga Johnson
    Bateman Nikora
    Ted Burns RTS

    CM9 Twal Tevega Mahoney
    Lichaa Xerri Kenny Coates

    A) Mahoney -> CS9 for points and don't worry about halves cover with trades and money remaining
    B) Mahoney -> Cleary/Reynolds/Munster lower points total but cover with Ponga/Burns
    C) Anything better than A or B

    Thanks for the help
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    Post by sajjos Tue Jul 23, 2019 10:11 pm

    The Whittler wrote:Season long lurker here looking for some trade help. 4 trades and 291k remaining.

    Cook
    Fifita Haas
    Murray Taupau Lolo
    Ponga Johnson
    Bateman Nikora
    Ted Burns RTS

    CM9 Twal Tevega Mahoney
    Lichaa Xerri Kenny Coates

    A) Mahoney -> CS9 for points and don't worry about halves cover with trades and money remaining
    B) Mahoney -> Cleary/Reynolds/Munster lower points total but cover with Ponga/Burns
    C) Anything better than A or B

    Thanks for the help

    I would probably look at Moses or Milf closely.
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    Post by Ben Marlin Tue Jul 23, 2019 10:35 pm

    The Whittler wrote:Season long lurker here looking for some trade help. 4 trades and 291k remaining.

    Cook
    Fifita Haas
    Murray Taupau Lolo
    Ponga Johnson
    Bateman Nikora
    Ted Burns RTS

    CM9 Twal Tevega Mahoney
    Lichaa Xerri Kenny Coates

    A) Mahoney -> CS9 for points and don't worry about halves cover with trades and money remaining
    B) Mahoney -> Cleary/Reynolds/Munster lower points total but cover with Ponga/Burns
    C) Anything better than A or B

    Thanks for the help
    Maybe Xerri > DCE
    You will then be able to play Ponga at WFB and have Burns as 18th man. Burns also covers centres so you won't need Xerri for centre coverage.
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    Post by Milchcow Tue Jul 23, 2019 10:45 pm

    Individual wrote:Sorry bout the downvote ozymandias. Accident.

    Doing a loopehole 4 the first time and not too sure how the whole thing works..
    So if i leave fifi in frf and put taupau on the bench does that mean that taupau automatically moves into his space and i can choose the highest scorer out of the emg?

    Or is that up the pole...

    You can post in the loophole thread for specific advice. But don't get your hopes up about being able to look at all your emergency scorers and picking the highest.
    Generally you can look at the score of someone who plays early in the round, and then decide whether to count that score, or take a punt on a 2nd choice player instead
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    Post by Ben Marlin Tue Jul 23, 2019 11:03 pm

    I promised that I will do an in-depth post explaining why Cook is the best captaincy option, here it is. I will go through the other captaincy options later (Smith, McInnes, Haas, Taumalolo)

    Cook is up against Dragons this week.
    In 2019, starting hookers PPM against the dragons is 0.719
    The same hooker’s seasonal PPM averages out to be 0.697
    That means that starting hookers PPM increases by 3.44% when playing against the dragons.
    If Cook’s PPM increased by 3.44% then it would become 0.82, giving him a score of 67 over 80. minutes

    The last 5 games, starting hookers PPM has been 0.854
    The same hookers seasonal PPM averages out to be 0.672
    That means that in the last 5 weeks, starting hookers PPM increases by 28% when playing against the dragons.
    If Cook’s PPM increased by 28% then it would become 1.02, giving him a score of 82 over 80 minutes

    In the last 3 games, starting hookers PPM has been 0.957
    The same hookers seasonal PPM averages out to be 0.677
    That means that in the last 5 weeks, starting hookers PPM increases by 43.08% when playing against the dragons.
    If Cook’s PPM increased by 43.08% then it would become 1.14, giving him a score of 91 across 80 minutes

    If I weight the games so that the more recent a game the high the weight and the earlier the game the less the weight (there are too many numbers to fully explain, if you want to know how I did it than I can tell you later) hookers PPM increases by 4.33% when playing against the dragons

    Here is a graph of the progression is the percentage higher (or lower) a players PPM is against the dragons compared to their seasonal PPM. If the difference is positive then their PPM against the dragons was higher than their seasonal PPM. If the difference is negative than their PPM against the dragons was lower than their season average
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    The equation of this graph is y = 1.3241x - 10.833
    The X axis is the number of games. This week is the 18th game. If I substitute 18 into that equation it comes out as y = 23.8338 - 10.833
    That means y = 13.0008
    If Cook’s PPM increased by 13% then it would become 0.899, giving him a score of 72 over 80 minutes

    In conclusion.
    Hookers PPM increases by 3.44% against the dragons over the season
    In the last 5 games there is an increase of 38%
    In the last 3 games there is an increase of 43.08%
    The weighted average for hookers against the dragons is 4.33%
    The equation of the graph predicts that there will be an increase of 13%
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    Post by The Whittler Tue Jul 23, 2019 11:11 pm

    sajjos wrote:

    I would probably look at Moses or Milf closely.

    Moses's average is hard to go past, I'm worried about Milf dropping back a bit when Dearden comes back as he'll lose KM.

    Ben Marlin wrote:
    Maybe Xerri > DCE
    You will then be able to play Ponga at WFB and have Burns as 18th man. Burns also covers centres so you won't need Xerri for centre coverage.

    I like that idea, I didn't consider shipping out Xerri.  It uses most of my bank but gives me a better 14-17. That also brings Cleary/Reynolds/Munster into the picture, hard to pick which one.
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    Post by Pain Tue Jul 23, 2019 11:37 pm

    Is this the week we see a Twal NRL try?
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    Post by Welshy Tue Jul 23, 2019 11:39 pm

    Ben Marlin wrote:I promised that I will do an in-depth post explaining why Cook is the best captaincy option, here it is. I will go through the other captaincy options later (Smith, McInnes, Haas, Taumalolo)

    Cook is up against Dragons this week.
    In 2019, starting hookers PPM against the dragons is 0.719
    The same hooker’s seasonal PPM averages out to be 0.697
    That means that starting hookers PPM increases by 3.44% when playing against the dragons.
    If Cook’s PPM increased by 3.44% then it would become 0.82, giving him a score of 67 over 80. minutes

    The last 5 games, starting hookers PPM has been 0.854
    The same hookers seasonal PPM averages out to be 0.672
    That means that in the last 5 weeks, starting hookers PPM increases by 28% when playing against the dragons.
    If Cook’s PPM increased by 28% then it would become 1.02, giving him a score of 82 over 80 minutes

    In the last 3 games, starting hookers PPM has been 0.957
    The same hookers seasonal PPM averages out to be 0.677
    That means that in the last 5 weeks, starting hookers PPM increases by 43.08% when playing against the dragons.
    If Cook’s PPM increased by 43.08% then it would become 1.14, giving him a score of 91 across 80 minutes

    If I weight the games so that the more recent a game the high the weight and the earlier the game the less the weight (there are too many numbers to fully explain, if you want to know how I did it than I can tell you later) hookers PPM increases by 4.33% when playing against the dragons

    Here is a graph of the progression is the percentage higher (or lower) a players PPM is against the dragons compared to their seasonal PPM. If the difference is positive then their PPM against the dragons was higher than their seasonal PPM. If the difference is negative than their PPM against the dragons was lower than their season average
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    The equation of this graph is y = 1.3241x - 10.833
    The X axis is the number of games. This week is the 18th game. If I substitute 18 into that equation it comes out as y = 23.8338 - 10.833
    That means y = 13.0008
    If Cook’s PPM increased by 13% then it would become 0.899, giving him a score of 72 over 80 minutes

    In conclusion.
    Hookers PPM increases by 3.44% against the dragons over the season
    In the last 5 games there is an increase of 38%
    In the last 3 games there is an increase of 43.08%
    The weighted average for hookers against the dragons is 4.33%
    The equation of the graph predicts that there will be an increase of 13%

    This is awesome.

    Nek minit Cook 5 HIA after 12 tackles.


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