NRL Fantasy 2019 Part 81

Rabbits21 wrote:
Only worry I have is Lolo’ lingering foot injury........

What’s your rank?

I'm around 180th.

filthridden wrote:

I'm around 180th.

Woweeeee, I’ve dropped from 455 to 747 last 3 weeks, a combo of a few players scoring poorly and poor captain picks, round 21 captained Cook v Storm, Round 22 captained Moses and Round 23 captained Haas.

Do you think Lolo gets through the last two matches unscathed, or with his foot injury is it safer I go Arrow to Klemmer instead of Arrow to Lolo?

Fortitude wrote:Has anyone done an evaluation on their looping to work out how much it has helped/hindered?

I think it has helped a lot especially lately with someone like Staggs. He is either low or high. I've taken his high score a few times looping him in.

Fortitude wrote:Has anyone done an evaluation on their looping to work out how much it has helped/hindered?

Around 42 point loss over the 3 times since round 18.

More if you factor in that when Staggs scored 65 in round 18, i was 50/50 between benching murray or matterson. I benched murray, he scored 82, playing matterson who scored low 40s. If i had picked correctly there i would have been 40 or so better off.

Rabbits21 wrote:
Woweeeee, I’ve dropped from 455 to 747 last 3 weeks, a combo of a few players scoring poorly and poor captain picks, round 21 captained Cook v Storm, Round 22 captained Moses and Round 23 captained Haas.

Do you think Lolo gets through the last two matches unscathed, or with his foot injury is it safer I go Arrow to Klemmer instead of Arrow to Lolo?

Re: Lolo.
“I want to see out this stadium, and I will do anything I can to get back out on to the field on Thursday.”
“Given the situation with Matt Scott (in hospital after a mild stroke), someone like himself who has put his body on the line numerous times for the jersey. If I am hurting, he is hurting worse, and there is no excuse to not tough it out.”
Good signs for those who still have Lolo, and are deliberating on playing him this week.

He will tough it out and beast it up like did the weekend just gone.

Eaglestar wrote:

I think it has helped a lot especially lately with someone like Staggs. He is either low or high. I've taken his high score a few times looping him in.

I reckon by season end, a conservative guess would be teams that looped systematically, planned for it etc would be 2-250 points better off. I have looped once, but I also never planned on it so my team structure is way different. You’re def disadvantaged not taking the opportunity. I just don’t care enough to learn to do it properly and to worried about Fucking it up. Currently ranked 120ish.

Fortitude wrote:

I reckon by season end, a conservative guess would be teams that looped systematically, planned for it etc would be 2-250 points better off. I have looped once, but I also never planned on it so my team structure is way different. You’re def disadvantaged not taking the opportunity. I just don’t care enough to learn to do it properly and to worried about Fucking it up. Currently ranked 120ish.

This year 1 time it did backfire but wasn't by much. Most times it generally pays off. Yeah everyone has to do it to increase ranks. I'm sure you would be top 100 easy if did it more often and got used to doing it.

Fortitude wrote:Has anyone done an evaluation on their looping to work out how much it has helped/hindered?

Had a quick look, I'm probably slightly better off, less than 30 points I'd say. Only a few times it really helped. HOWEVER there's been a few times this year (like when Crichton was first benched, or Fifita coming back from injury) where I put them at 18 in case they had a dud score. They didn't have a dud score so I took the score, but if loopholing didn't exist I would have played them anyway. eg. round 13, yes I took Xerri's 74, but I was never going to play a bench Rein/Brittain over him. So not really better off points wise but I liked having the insurance policy, because if they DID put up a dud score I could have avoided it.

Rabbits21 wrote:
Cheers mate that’s what I am gonna do, Lomax to Kahu and Arrow to Lolo, that’ll be my last two trades and I only have 8k to spare so I haven’t wasted too much.

Kahu is a good call, at least gives you some cover if one of the centre goes down. 20 pts might make a difference!

Fortitude wrote:Has anyone done an evaluation on their looping to work out how much it has helped/hindered?

At the start of the season I wasn’t even updating my lineups for late mail across the weekend. I think it has to help in the long run though.

Rabbits21 wrote:
Woweeeee, I’ve dropped from 455 to 747 last 3 weeks, a combo of a few players scoring poorly and poor captain picks, round 21 captained Cook v Storm, Round 22 captained Moses and Round 23 captained Haas.

Do you think Lolo gets through the last two matches unscathed, or with his foot injury is it safer I go Arrow to Klemmer instead of Arrow to Lolo?

I reckon Lolo will be fine. If it's a plantar issue then it's unlikely he makes it worse, just about managing the pain.
Lolo is one of best scorers in the game, he's worth the punt for two rounds.

Rippin and Tearin wrote:And the number of regular posters on here drops by a few more - waste of fucking time reading this forum sometimes!

Well, lookie here. The resident sook who has called for my banning on more than one occasion because he obviously has problems and is brain addled, Yet here he is...gobbing off again

And once again, we have posters coming here in droves. Posting 20 times a day. Even peanuts like chrome dome Templar, the school ‘teacher’ and Mooseface have crawled out from under their rocks like spiders.

Record numbers of posters for this time of the year.

You all know the reason why.

The fabulous Rabbit.

It is now must be as obvious as the cheating in fantasy scoring, and has been for over a decade, that this forum needs the most intelligent, overtly successful, well hung, multi talented, and possibly the most ever popular poster in the history of Sportal and this joint......that the forum needs Rabbit, more than Rabbit needs any forum, including this one

Just face facts. And bow down

Thank you in advance and up the Bunnies.

Fortitude wrote:Has anyone done an evaluation on their looping to work out how much it has helped/hindered?

Since round 17 I've gained 59 points from looping. This is only including the points I've taken from players I would have otherwise not put in my 17.

Rabbit wrote:

Well, lookie here. The resident sook who has called for my banning on more than one occasion because he obviously has problems and is brain addled, Yet here he is...gobbing off again

And once again, we have posters coming here in droves. Posting 20 times a day. Even peanuts like chrome dome Templar, the school ‘teacher’ and Mooseface have crawled out from under their rocks like spiders.

Record numbers of posters for this time of the year.

You all know the reason why.

The fabulous Rabbit.

It is now must be as obvious as the cheating in fantasy scoring, and has been for over a decade, that this forum needs the most intelligent, overtly successful, well hung, multi talented, and possibly the most ever popular poster in the history of Sportal and this joint......that the forum needs Rabbit, more than Rabbit needs any forum, including this one

Just face facts. And bow down

Thank you in advance and up the Bunnies.

I can’t quite put my finger on why I like this. Minus the bunny part of course. Would have prefer a fuck the broncos sign off. Beggars can’t be chooses

Ben Marlin wrote:How would you describe NRL Fantasy to somebody that's never played before and knows nothing about NRL in a paragraph?

Just the simple game outlines, goals, objectives, how it works etc.

A stockmarket where you buy football players instead of shares.
You make a team of players and their value rises or falls according to their real world performances.

This is my usual spiel when I am forced to explain how huge a nerd I am to people
(But I always make sure I flex my gym-honed guns as I tell them)

Fortitude wrote:

I reckon by season end, a conservative guess would be teams that looped systematically, planned for it etc would be 2-250 points better off.

I'm not convinced you would be that much better off. Firstly, as MTB unfortunately pointed out it often backfires. Secondly, there aren't as many good opportunities to do it as you might think due to the draw. Thirdly, half the time (again because of the draw) the bloke you loop in you would have played anyway in the absence of a loop hole. Finally, if you started the year with a red dot, that a player not earning any money. Even if you did a mattnz and took Xerri from the start for looping purposes, yes that worked well for him but he had a red dot for three weeks. A good cash cow can make 150k in three weeks. How many points over the year is that worth? Also it increases your risk of not having coverage for a late out.

So in summary, I spend a lot of time thinking about the loophole and I'm an avid user of it. But I think the advantage is modest at best.

filthy looping:

Round 4: Looped Sivo's 24 in over Waddell's 5 = +19
Round 5: Kept CHT's 42 at 18 over Okunbur's 15 = +27 (+46)
Round 6: Kept CHT's 34 over Okunbur's 11 = +23 (+69)
Round 7: Kept CHT's 57 over Okunbur's 43 however Garner's late out meant I got Okkie's score in my 17 anyway = counting this as net zero (+69)
Round 8: Looped Lawrie in for 58 after Xerri only scored 30 = +28 (+97)
Round 9: Looped Okunbur in for 10 after Waddell only scored 29 (FAIL) = -19 (+78)
Round 10: Looped Waddell in for 29 after Marin only scored 31 (FAIL) = -2 (+76)
Round 11: Kept Waddell's 38 over Xerri's 63 (FAIL) = -25 (+51)

Round 20: Kept Brooks's 64 over Burns's 34 = +30 (+81)

Net gain of 81 points through the year, assuming I would've picked the correct highest scorer had I not looped, so in reality, probably more than that.

80 free points for the year? Nothing to be scoffed at. Currently ranked 182nd. Minus 80 points puts me around 260-270th.

filthridden wrote:filthy looping:


80 free points for the year? Nothing to be scoffed at. Currently ranked 182nd. Minus 80 points puts me around 260-270th.

Well done mate. Yeah my gut feel is that would be about par for looping benefit.

filthridden wrote:

I reckon Lolo will be fine. If it's a plantar issue then it's unlikely he makes it worse, just about managing the pain.
Lolo is one of best scorers in the game, he's worth the punt for two rounds.

I’m also loving the fact I’m only 2 points behind Rabbit now too, even though I’ve got him on ignore which makes this place much more readable without dribble it’ll be great to overtake him and I’ll have the last laugh which is often the case, be rude to someone and have a go at them and I’m a big believer in it pretty much always comes back to bite you in the arse!

UP BUNNY BOY BROTHERS OVER THE GUMBIES or whatever his team is called

Mulvy wrote:

I'm not convinced you would be that much better off. Firstly, as MTB unfortunately pointed out it often backfires. Secondly, there aren't as many good opportunities to do it as you might think due to the draw. Thirdly, half the time (again because of the draw) the bloke you loop in you would have played anyway in the absence of a loop hole. Finally, if you started the year with a red dot, that a player not earning any money. Even if you did a mattnz and took Xerri from the start for looping purposes, yes that worked well for him but he had a red dot for three weeks. A good cash cow can make 150k in three weeks. How many points over the year is that worth? Also it increases your risk of not having coverage for a late out.

So in summary, I spend a lot of time thinking about the loophole and I'm an avid user of it. But I think the advantage is modest at best.

Yeah this about what I was thinking. I might be over estimating the benefits though. I def think that I’ve done well because I haven’t mucked around with looping and red dots.