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    NRL Fantasy 2020 Part 1 - Offseason Edition

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    Post by Mulvy Tue Jan 21, 2020 8:25 am

    multiple.scoregasms wrote:I'm still interested in Ryan James priced at 39.9

    That's pretty much his floor average as a second rower, if he moves to the middle he is 10-15 points under priced.

    It also doesn't hurt that their edge forwards (Proctor, Cartwright, Stone, Hipgrave, Peachey) are much better than their middle forwards outside of Arrow, Jwal and Fotuaika (Boyd, Latu, Whitbread)

    I was thinking about him on my walk this morning. Could be my Aiden Tolman this year, in that he's priced at 40, projected to score high 40's (more is a bonus) which is serviceable until he plays rd 12 before upgrading. DPP is nice too.
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    Post by my tv broke Tue Jan 21, 2020 8:30 am

    Fanhub would have no real control over the subjective pricing, that would be the guys from the NRL.

    I've said it before, but I really have no issue with it.
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    Post by No Worries Tue Jan 21, 2020 8:37 am

    my tv broke wrote:Fanhub would have no real control over the subjective pricing, that would be the guys from the NRL.

    I've said it before, but I really have no issue with it.

    How so ? I would have thought the NRL would have nothing to do other than cashing in the cheque for the naming rights.
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    Post by wolfking Tue Jan 21, 2020 8:40 am

    Alright, looks like I have a lot to catch up on lads. My preseason work schedule is absolute hell, so don't get a lot of time to plan as much as I would like, but was thinking about starting with Haas until his price dropped. Holy moly! Some interesting picks based on the prices we have so far;

    Payne Hass (maybe)
    David Fifita (seems like a great starting price)
    Ryan James (underpriced)
    Blayke Brailey (cow)
    Jack Williams (potentially if gets the lock role)
    Aaron Woods (Coach seems to like him and with Fifita last year, Woods could take the numbe 1 spot)

    And for the Bunnies, definitely looking at these 3;

    Liam Knight
    Ethan Lowe
    Jayden Sua

    Knight will be one of my first picked. Not much I like from the Dogs or Raiders. I don't think Bateman will be worth that price straight up.

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    Post by Rabbits21 Tue Jan 21, 2020 9:24 am

    Mulvy wrote:

    I was thinking about him on my walk this morning. Could be my Aiden Tolman this year, in that he's priced at 40, projected to score high 40's (more is a bonus) which is serviceable until he plays rd 12 before upgrading. DPP is nice too.
    Do you think he will play in the middle? I honestly have no idea but hope he does.
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    Post by robelgordo Tue Jan 21, 2020 9:27 am

    Rabbits21 wrote:
    Do you think he will play in the middle? I honestly have no idea but hope he does.

    All signs point to James playing edge I think - it’s where the Titans need the help. Maybe if Arrow goes he plays lock, but even then I think he serves them better playing wide.

    EDIT: just saw multiplescorgasms has already posted they need more help in the middle, and I’m saying the opposite hahaha. I think I’m right though. They need someone on the other side from Proctor the most IMO
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    Post by Rabbits21 Tue Jan 21, 2020 9:33 am

    wolfking wrote:Alright, looks like I have a lot to catch up on lads.  My preseason work schedule is absolute hell, so don't get a lot of time to plan as much as I would like, but was thinking about starting with Haas until his price dropped.  Holy moly!  Some interesting picks based on the prices we have so far;

    Payne Hass (maybe)
    David Fifita (seems like a great starting price)
    Ryan James (underpriced)
    Blayke Brailey (cow)
    Jack Williams (potentially if gets the lock role)
    Aaron Woods (Coach seems to like him and with Fifita last year, Woods could take the numbe 1 spot)

    And for the Bunnies, definitely looking at these 3;

    Liam Knight
    Ethan Lowe
    Jayden Sua

    Knight will be one of my first picked.  Not much I like from the Dogs or Raiders.  I don't think Bateman will be worth that price straight up.

    Talk is Souths are still gonna get Arrow, if that’s the case I see Arrow playing 50mins.

    Arrow coming would mean Knight get just 40-45mins rather than 55mins as Tom would take the other 35-40mins.

    So Knight for mine is all dependent on what happens with Arrow.
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    Post by Rabbits21 Tue Jan 21, 2020 9:34 am

    Well if James is on an edge and Knight doesn’t get as many mins if Arrow comes there out the window goes 2 props I wanted, back to square one lol.
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    Post by wolfking Tue Jan 21, 2020 9:36 am

    Rabbits21 wrote:
    Talk is Souths are still gonna get Arrow, if that’s the case I see Arrow playing 50mins.

    Arrow coming would mean Knight get just 40-45mins rather than 55mins as Tom would take the other 35-40mins.

    So Knight for mine is all dependent on what happens with Arrow.

    I'm basing that on Arrow not coming this year. Even if Arrow does, depending on his price, there still could be some upside, but potentially not worth the punt if Arrow does suit up for us.
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    Post by wolfking Tue Jan 21, 2020 9:42 am

    Rabbits21 wrote:Well if James is on an edge and Knight doesn’t get as many mins if Arrow comes there out the window goes 2 props I wanted, back to square one lol.

    If Arrow stays at Titans I think James plays edge also. Just a punt though. Even on the edge, I think he's still underpriced. Whether he's underpriced enough to start with remains to be seen.
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    Post by Mulvy Tue Jan 21, 2020 9:45 am

    wolfking wrote:Alright, looks like I have a lot to catch up on lads.  My preseason work schedule is absolute hell, so don't get a lot of time to plan as much as I would like, but was thinking about starting with Haas until his price dropped.  Holy moly!  Some interesting picks based on the prices we have so far;

    Payne Hass (maybe)
    David Fifita (seems like a great starting price)
    Ryan James (underpriced)
    Blayke Brailey (cow)
    Jack Williams (potentially if gets the lock role)
    Aaron Woods (Coach seems to like him and with Fifita last year, Woods could take the numbe 1 spot)

    And for the Bunnies, definitely looking at these 3;

    Liam Knight
    Ethan Lowe
    Jayden Sua

    Knight will be one of my first picked.  Not much I like from the Dogs or Raiders.  I don't think Bateman will be worth that price straight up.


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    Post by Iron Mike Tue Jan 21, 2020 9:46 am

    If Arrow goes and James is on an edge, I will bypass Knight/James and get Fotuaika.

    He is a beast - played with Hass and Mikeale at school in the FRF rotation.

    Fotuaika will be this years AFB - might get him regardless.
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    Post by Mulvy Tue Jan 21, 2020 9:49 am

    Rabbits21 wrote:
    Do you think he will play in the middle? I honestly have no idea but hope he does.

    Probably not hence the high 40s guesstimate rather than 50s, but there is potential upside if he does spend time there. He could spend part time there as part of the bench rotation, or otherwise only one injury away from being back in the middle full-time. So I would plan on being 5-8 points undervalued but hope for more. Last year I planned for Tolman being 7-8 points under and got over 10 iirc.
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    Post by Rabbits21 Tue Jan 21, 2020 9:56 am

    Mulvy wrote:

    Probably not hence the high 40s guesstimate rather than 50s, but there is potential upside if he does spend time there. He could spend part time there as part of the bench rotation, or otherwise only one injury away from being back in the middle full-time. So I would plan on being 5-8 points undervalued but hope for more. Last year I planned for Tolman being 7-8 points under and got over 10 iirc.
    If they play Rein, Cartwright, Boyd and Hipgrave off the bench, James I’d say would definitely spend some time in the middle.
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    Post by Welshy Tue Jan 21, 2020 9:59 am

    Sure James average playing wide is around the 42 mark, not sure he would be worth the risk

    His MT rate shoots up when playing on the edge and obviously less work there
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    Post by StormTrooper96 Tue Jan 21, 2020 10:02 am

    Welshy wrote:Sure James average playing wide is around the 42 mark, not sure he would be worth the risk

    His MT rate shoots up when playing on the edge and obviously less work there

    Maybe Holbrook prefers to play through the edges? Never know?
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    Post by Welshy Tue Jan 21, 2020 10:06 am

    StormTrooper96 wrote:

    Maybe Holbrook prefers to play through the edges? Never know?

    Check out the old team planners, I’d do the digging on my work pc but recently had it wiped so lost all old data Milch used to compile.

    priced already at 40 I think there will be far better value, if he plays prop I’ll be all over him though
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    Post by StormTrooper96 Tue Jan 21, 2020 10:16 am

    Welshy wrote:

    Check out the old team planners, I’d do the digging on my work pc but recently had it wiped so lost all old data Milch used to compile.

    priced already at 40 I think there will be far better value, if he plays prop I’ll be all over him though

    Kind of stupid to put someone who was literally just shy of an Origin debut (got cut for Matt Prior....) into his non-preferred position. He made rep teams off of his merit as a forward, and the Titans go and try make him an back rower.... scratch
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    Post by Welshy Tue Jan 21, 2020 10:16 am

    Years ago would of snapped Kallum Watkins up at current price without blinking but his form has steadily declined last few years with Leeds, serious injury then but someone who is hugely talented if he can find some pre 2018 form.

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    Post by Welshy Tue Jan 21, 2020 10:17 am

    StormTrooper96 wrote:

    Kind of stupid to put someone who was literally just shy of an Origin debut (got cut for Matt Prior....) into his non-preferred position. He made rep teams off of his merit as a forward, and the Titans go and try make him an back rower.... scratch

    Pretty sure James started as an edge back rower with GC many moons ago mate, turned fantasy elite when he got moved to lock/prop 2016

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