NRL Fantasy 2020 Part 1 - Offseason Edition

James is great option imo
The last 2 seasons James has started on the edge and then switched back to the middle after a few games (where he is a 50+ player)
He is still underpriced playing on the edge and he has the bonus of playing Round 12

I dunno if James really has the mobility to play edge. If I was the Titans I'd want him in the middle

Cartwright or Peachey are possibles there, both very average.. but if either could fulfill potential/expectations under the new coach, then they are probably better options

Ben Marlin wrote:James is great option imo
The last 2 seasons James has started on the edge and then switched back to the middle after a few games (where he is a 50+ player)
He is still underpriced playing on the edge and he has the bonus of playing Round 12

maybe a few points underpriced if he plays pure edge and 80 but can find the same predicted output for less $$ from edge fantasy edge rowers which come along fairly regular

Like I said if he plays middle, good value

Fotuaika is a shout, if he gets minutes kid is a fucking monster, might be 6-10 points underpriced

Mulvy wrote:

Welcome back Wolfy!

Thanks mate!

Wasn't James' big breakout year when he was like 192K and playing on the edge for most the year?

wolfking wrote:Wasn't James' big breakout year when he was like 192K and playing on the edge for most the year?  

From memory he made plenty of money (because started so cheap) but didn't score great. Didn't help that he gave up six penalties a game.

my tv broke wrote:Fanhub would have no real control over the subjective pricing, that would be the guys from the NRL.

I've said it before, but I really have no issue with it.

No Worries wrote:How so ? I would have thought the NRL would have nothing to do other than cashing in the cheque for the naming rights.

No Worries is correct. NRL don't do anything on the technical side of fantasy.

Chris Kennedy has mentioned on Twitter he doesn't know the pricing formula

Welshy wrote:
maybe a few points underpriced if he plays pure edge and 80 but can find the same predicted output for less $$ from edge fantasy edge rowers which come along fairly regular

Like I said if he plays middle, good value

Fotuaika is a shout, if he gets minutes kid is a fucking monster, might be 6-10 points underpriced

I think James is 6-10 points underpriced on the edge let alone the middle

I agree that there’s better value in the 2nd row but there isn’t as much value in the front row which is where you would most likely be playing James.

rhinoceroo wrote:

From memory he made plenty of money (because started so cheap) but didn't score great. Didn't help that he gave up six penalties a game.

Yeah, maybe I'm confusing his money making potential that year with fantasy scores.

Milchy wrote:




No Worries is correct. NRL don't do anything on the technical side of fantasy.

Chris Kennedy has mentioned on Twitter he doesn't know the pricing formula

CK would say that though, to keep the twitter masses off his back

Ryan James

2015 Avg 40.5 from 19 games at 2nd row (mostly 80 min, removing his one injury game) five tries
2016 Zero games starting from 2nd row. Avg 60.6 at prop.
2017 Zero games starting from 2nd row. Avg 47.8 at prop.
2018 Avg 44 from 5 games starting 2nd row, one try (one game was reduced minutes though)
2019 First two rounds starting 2nd row for scores 25 and 42. Pretty sure he was rotated through the middle before being subbed off at 60 and 71 minutes respectively.

So if playing middle he's value, if edge only some value but maybe not enough.

Milchy wrote:




No Worries is correct. NRL don't do anything on the technical side of fantasy.

Chris Kennedy has mentioned on Twitter he doesn't know the pricing formula

Yeah but are fanhub responsible for the input data?

I assumed they are relying on footy people for variables, or adjustment factors, for stuff like “Isaako is likely to change position and score more points”. Basically my assumption would be they are programmers/methodologists, but not subject matter expert enough to be tweaking prices. Although I guess they’d only need to contract one RL person on a PT basis to do that part as well.

Mulvy wrote:Ryan James

2015 Avg 40.5 from 19 games at 2nd row (mostly 80 min, removing his one injury game) five tries
2016 Zero games starting from 2nd row. Avg 60.6 at prop.
2017 Zero games starting from 2nd row. Avg 47.8 at prop.
2018 Avg 44 from 5 games starting 2nd row, one try (one game was reduced minutes though)
2019 First two rounds starting 2nd row for scores 25 and 42. Pretty sure he was rotated through the middle before being subbed off at 60 and 71 minutes respectively.

So if playing middle he's value, if edge only some value but maybe not enough.

Sounds too risky to me to be starting with James.

I've got Haas & Knight pencilled in as FRF with Carrigan on the bench (hopefully he starts at Lock for the Broncos and gets DPP)... that's more than enough money spent on the Front Row

robelgordo wrote:

Yeah but are fanhub responsible for the input data?

I assumed they are relying on footy people for variables, or adjustment factors, for stuff like “Isaako is likely to change position and score more points”. Basically my assumption would be they are programmers/methodologists, but not subject matter expert enough to be tweaking prices. Although I guess they’d only need to contract one RL person on a PT basis to do that part as well.

It's all data and stat driven. There's no NRL tragic on the books who works as a SME. Input likely team / average fullback Vs Average winger, up Isaako by the difference (among all the other variables). It's all formulaic

Who is everyone's 3 back rowers?

Chewie wrote:

Sounds too risky to me to be starting with James.

I've got Haas & Knight pencilled in as FRF with Carrigan on the bench (hopefully he starts at Lock for the Broncos and gets DPP)... that's more than enough money spent on the Front Row

If Arrow stays in the GC this year that sounds like a very juicy FRF pack. Carrigan has had all the wraps this off season "Future Captain", "Great Leader" along with being bumped into the senior squad. The man is bound for more minutes.

Lone Scout's comments RE the altering of player prices:

"In reference to questions about price bumps for some players (eg B.Brailey), a few of the most obvious cash cows have had their prices increased based on their expected larger roles this season to encourage more variety among teams.

It will make picking a starting squad more of a challenge, but nobody is really disadvantaged (the prices are the same for all Fantasy coaches after all).

Brailey is still a bargain with a break even of about 27, he just won't be in 100% of Fantasy teams now "

KingTeddy wrote:Who is everyone's 3 back rowers?

Too spoilt for choice to pick just three right now..

So much value around;
Garner
D.Fifita
Williams
Stimson
Lowe
Su'a
Tapine
Crichton

Then you have your usual suspects
N.Brown
Harris
Murray
RyMatt
Tolo
Bateman
JFH
Taupau

I physically cannot pick 3 right now

StormTrooper96 wrote:

If Arrow stays in the GC this year that sounds like a very juicy FRF pack. Carrigan has had all the wraps this off season "Future Captain", "Great Leader" along with being bumped into the senior squad. The man is bound for more minutes.

Yeah I expect Carrigan to become one of the Fantasy must haves at the start of this season.

SandroTilocca wrote:Lone Scout's comments RE the altering of player prices:

"In reference to questions about price bumps for some players (eg B.Brailey), a few of the most obvious cash cows have had their prices increased based on their expected larger roles this season to encourage more variety among teams.

It will make picking a starting squad more of a challenge, but nobody is really disadvantaged (the prices are the same for all Fantasy coaches after all).

Brailey is still a bargain with a break even of about 27, he just won't be in 100% of Fantasy teams now "

I LOVE THIS! Means our starting squads will have maybe 4,5 even 6 different players instead of just 1 or 2 like most years. Love the variety and decision coaches will be now forced to make.