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    Post by standard-issue Mon Feb 03, 2020 9:32 pm

    Anyone else stay up for Cas/Wolfpack? $BW seems to be copping it but personally thought he slotted in okay. Standing and offloading in tackles like he'd never left League. A couple of Errors but that is part and parcel of the Toronto gameplan.
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    Post by mattnz Mon Feb 03, 2020 9:35 pm

    Camo123 wrote:Any reason why Leleisiauo isn’t in the game yet. He is in Titans top 30 in nrl’s official contract list yet players like Gebbie and Niu who are in development squads are included. Would he just be added on TLT if named

    Was going through his NSW cup stats but it takes ages because he’s not on the system anymore because I think Wenty Magpies aren’t in 2020 NSW cup so have to go through game by game.

    Check him out here https://www.nswrl.com.au/stats/

    Linebreaks - 3rd equal
    Post Contact Meters - 1st
    Tackle Breaks - 1st (almost double 2nd place and more than double 3rd place)
    Offloads - 1st equal
    Runs - 1st
    Run Meters - 1st
    Kick Return Meters - 2nd

    BEAST!! Reads like Bateman's stats in super league which made me pick him to start round 1 last year.

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    Post by SoylentGreen Mon Feb 03, 2020 9:35 pm

    Rabbits21 wrote:
    How the hell did you fit both Taumalolo and Fifita in? (I assume you must’ve went lighter on elsewhere eg other half and hooker etc....)

    I've got those same 5 players. Koro hooker, Mann second half, and ugly ctrs. Got Holmes in WFB too
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    Post by Mulvy Mon Feb 03, 2020 9:41 pm

    I think Cleary is as good a value as Moses. They're both keepers at HLF. Cleary may ultimately average more, but is priced a couple of points more and is a higher risk of playing origin. Cleary indeed could be anything with Maloney gone but I wouldn't want to overstate upside for the reason that HLF's no matter how good and dominant and goalkicker etc, rarely average more than high 50's (priced at 54), so there's a bit of a glass ceiling there. Glass ceilings are made to be broken I suppose......
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    Post by standard-issue Mon Feb 03, 2020 9:46 pm

    Fanatics Magic Weekend meet up link all, shaping up to be a great turn out:

    https://www.nrlfantasyfanatics.com/t1129p20-4th-annual-nrlff-meetup-magic-weekend#351337
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    Post by Milchcow Mon Feb 03, 2020 9:46 pm

    Mulvy wrote:I think Cleary is as good a value as Moses. They're both keepers at HLF. Cleary may ultimately average more, but is priced a couple of points more and is a higher risk of playing origin. Cleary indeed could be anything with Maloney gone but I wouldn't want to overstate upside for the reason that HLF's no matter how good and dominant and goalkicker etc, rarely average more than high 50's (priced at 54), so there's a bit of a glass ceiling there. Glass ceilings are made to be broken I suppose......

    If it wasn't for origin i'd take Cleary in a heartbeat. With no Maloney he'll do a bunch of work, and has a higher floor than Moses.
    with origin factored in, Moses may be the higher total points scorer (they averaged about the same last year, but Moses got an extra 130 points due to 2 extra games)

    Him and Moses both have potential to bust out the 80+ monster scores as well.

    Might end up with neither and place faith in somone like Croft. We'll see how it goes.
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    Post by mattnz Mon Feb 03, 2020 9:46 pm

    Mulvy wrote:I think Cleary is as good a value as Moses. They're both keepers at HLF. Cleary may ultimately average more, but is priced a couple of points more and is a higher risk of playing origin. Cleary indeed could be anything with Maloney gone but I wouldn't want to overstate upside for the reason that HLF's no matter how good and dominant and goalkicker etc, rarely average more than high 50's (priced at 54), so there's a bit of a glass ceiling there. Glass ceilings are made to be broken I suppose......

    Games without Maloney the last 2 seasons 66, 79, 77, 80. A low of 66 and the rest 77+ is insane.
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    Post by standard-issue Mon Feb 03, 2020 9:48 pm

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    Post by mattnz Mon Feb 03, 2020 9:49 pm

    Has anyone confirmed with the organizer of celebrity teams that we will have an entry again this season?
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    Post by Rabbits21 Mon Feb 03, 2020 10:00 pm

    mattnz wrote:

    Games without Maloney the last 2 seasons 66, 79, 77, 80. A low of 66 and the rest 77+ is insane.
    How many of those games did he score tries in though? I’ll guess 2.
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    Post by Mulvy Mon Feb 03, 2020 10:03 pm

    mattnz wrote:

    Games without Maloney the last 2 seasons 66, 79, 77, 80. A low of 66 and the rest 77+ is insane.

    Yeah I get it. Sample of four over two seasons though...... Even if Cleary is the top scoring avg at half, I'd be surprised if his avg was over 60 (only because it hardly (never?)) happens. And even if he did, he might not score the most total points. I'm not knocking the pick, I think it's a good one, just dampening expectations.
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    Post by mattnz Mon Feb 03, 2020 10:05 pm

    Rabbits21 wrote:
    How many of those games did he score tries in though? I’ll guess 2.

    Interestingly, the 2 games in 2018 (77 and 80) had 0 tries and 0 try assists. The 2 games in 2019 (66 and 79) 2 tries and 2 try assists.
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    Post by mattnz Mon Feb 03, 2020 10:15 pm

    Mulvy wrote:

    Yeah I get it. Sample of four over two seasons though...... Even if Cleary is the top scoring avg at half, I'd be surprised if his avg was over 60 (only because it hardly (never?)) happens. And even if he did, he might not score the most total points. I'm not knocking the pick, I think it's a good one, just dampening expectations.

    Its a pretty well tested theory though. The exact same happened when you had Maloney without Cleary in 2018, Maloney went from scores of -4, 14, 27 (average of 12) the first 3 rounds, to averaging 50 the next 7 rounds that Cleary was out.
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    Post by Rabbits21 Mon Feb 03, 2020 10:16 pm

    Tbh I don’t think I’m gonna make my round 1 side based on round 12, for the people that do I think injuries and shit is gonna happen anyway before it gets to that point.

    I am gonna worry about getting the strongest team I can for round 1 and even if that only means I have say 6 players out of my 21 at that point playing round 12 so be it.

    Once we get to say round 6, 7 and 8 once some guys have peaked and need upgrading or going down to another cash cow at that point I’ll then worry about my round 12 preparations.

    I just don’t wanna fall too far behind at start of season having a starting team based around round 12 carrying an extra 2-3 guys that play that round over another 2-3 guys who don’t play round 12 but will score better to start with etc.....
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    Post by Rabbits21 Mon Feb 03, 2020 10:18 pm

    mattnz wrote:

    Its a pretty well tested theory though. The exact same happened when you had Maloney without Cleary in 2018, Maloney went from scores of -4, 14, 27 (average of 12) the first 3 rounds, to averaging 50 the next 7 rounds that Cleary was out.
    Geez mate you are tempting me big time to jump back on the Cleary train!
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    Post by Mulvy Mon Feb 03, 2020 10:20 pm

    mattnz wrote:

    Its a pretty well tested theory though. The exact same happened when you had Maloney without Cleary in 2018, Maloney went from scores of -4, 14, 27 (average of 12) the first 3 rounds, to averaging 50 the next 7 rounds that Cleary was out.

    Don't remind me. I was set to trade Cartwright to Maloney but got drunk and forgot about it Bang
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    Post by maffufu Mon Feb 03, 2020 10:33 pm

    Does anyone know if robson will get a starting role, or will granville get the first crack?
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    Post by mattnz Mon Feb 03, 2020 10:34 pm

    Its interesting comparing some of the halves combinations and the scoring of dominant halves.

    Examples of Strong / Weak halves combinations the last couple of years:
    DCE/any of them next to him have been weak
    Milf/any of them next to him have been weak
    Moses/It took Norman leaving to make him a strong dominant player

    Their strong scoring tends to be because the guys next to them are weaker. Cleary has been scoring at that same level as these guys, despite having a strong halves partner in Maloney next to him. This season he takes full control and takes things to the next level.
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    Post by Mulvy Mon Feb 03, 2020 10:38 pm

    maffufu wrote:Does anyone know if robson will get a starting role, or will granville get the first crack?

    No idea, most cows fans want Robson but are expecting Granville, to start the year at least.
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    Post by standard-issue Mon Feb 03, 2020 10:39 pm

    maffufu wrote:Does anyone know if robson will get a starting role, or will granville get the first crack?

    Cotter ahead of Robson maybe?

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