NRL Fantasy 2020 Part 5

Rabbits21 wrote:
I’m still doing drafts without Friend too, they change regularly.

JMK is high on my maybe list too.

This forum is so divided re Friend, some are adamant gets 70 mins plus and others think he won’t get more than 60mins.

I'd be concerned more about how many points he gets rather than minutes. There are plenty of players who score the same in 40 minutes as they do in 50 minutes. There are some who score much the same in 60 minutes as they do in 80 minutes. Minutes are important for opportunity, but don't be too obsessed with them.

Mulvy wrote:

I'd be concerned more about how many points he gets rather than minutes. There are plenty of players who score the same in 40 minutes as they do in 50 minutes. There are some who score much the same in 60 minutes as they do in 80 minutes. Minutes are important for opportunity, but don't be too obsessed with them.

Sure but Friend's scores in sub-60 minute games aren't amazing

Bethany_B wrote:

Sure but Friend's scores in sub-60 minute games aren't amazing

Sure, but if you take games over 50 minutes (because anything less is probably an injury game):

2015 - avg 52 in 69 min
2016 - avg 59 in 76 min
2017 - avg 53 in 75 min
2018 - avg 50 in 71 min
2019 - avg 77 in 69 min (yes only 3 games)

The point is, you don't need to play 80 to score well. Friend will do just fine in 65-70 like he always does. Would you not pick Haas because he doesn't play 80 and there are guys on the bench which limit Haas' minutes to 64? Even last year with injury concerns, if Friend was fit, he started and played big minutes. He's the co-captain in line for an origin spot. Verrils wastes a spot on the bench and there are a couple of other players who can briefly fill in if he needs a rest. I don't see the concern unless trials and TLT throw up something completely unexpected.

Wat Kins IN...

Thanks Welshy!

Any others I should consider?

multiple.scoregasms wrote:Ignoring positions would you rather A or B

Brimson or Jack Williams
Bateman or Tedesco
Lodge or Mahoney
Crichton or Tommy Turbo
Curtis Sironen or Michael Morgan
Xerri or JBrailey
Bird or Hughes
Marsters or Turpin
Brandon Smith or Mbye
Staggs or Gutherson
DWZ or Tetevano
Frizell or Wade Graham
Host or Lawrie

Interesting set MS!
Bolded my picks above and for most of them other than Siro and Morgan and Smith/Mbye, it wasn’t even close.

mattnz wrote:

I cant believe I keep seeing posts where many are seriously considering Carty. The guy was a borderline gun in 2016 and hasnt been close to showing the same kind of form ever since. No reason to expect that to change this season.

If he hasn't shown form since 2016, why am I considering him based on his 2019 stats?

Forum 9s fantasy

https://www.nrlfantasyfanatics.com/t1160-forum-9s-fantasy-draft-2020

Milchcow wrote:
For those who used the spreadsheets that Steve Nicholls created for renegades, I have updated his sheet with 2019 data

link here for anyone that wants it

https://www.mediafire.com/file/mxuesns6qcmu9qc/RFS_2014-19_Data_%28v1.0%29.xlsm/file

Thanks mate.

I dont think there is anyone else down here in Dunedin, but just in case, here are the details for Steve's funeral. Happy to catch up with anyone if they intend to go.

1.30pm on Thursday at Hope and sons in Mosgiel. It's a public funeral.

A few more fantasy related snippets from me about Steve too...

As someone posted, he was present here on this forum (cant recall the user name RNGD Analytics or something). I know he liked this place. A couple years back I recall him posting quite a bit. He had big respect for many people here but had specifically mentioned to me @Milch and @MTB for all the analytical work they do, and also among several others @verbal for his consistent performances over the last 2 years. @Pookus too, if Im not mistaken, was the person that pipped Steve by a point or two in the Rengades Cash league last year (is that right Pookus or have I got you confused with someone else?).

Also, as I mentioned the other day, Steve and I ran a joint team in SuperCoach last year, we went pretty poorly, partly because neither of us had played that comp before. I emailed Steve on Friday and was going to suggest we shift to VSDT (my favourite platform). Im still going to do that and am thinking of a way to include our forum members if they want to. See link below and join me there throughout the season.

VSDT Otago Ocelots RIP

They haven’t added points for strips have they? Really should be +2 for a strip and -2 for getting stripped

Mulvy wrote:

It irks you for the same reason it would irk me. I'm not sold on Croft. Burns could potentially be a rd 12 playing season keeper at a big discount. He was in all my early drafts until I fell in love with my new forward pack. Croft will probably be a trade eventually.

Agree here Pookus. Hold tight! I am also a Burns fanboy and he is staying in my side. Potential cut price gun centre in a tricky position v potential 2nd-tier-gun Half that will need to be traded for a final team.

7 games of 80mins in 2019 for a 44.7 average. Priced at 34. Shhhhh

Bagpipe wrote:Can anyone really trust an Englishman who isn't a forward? Somebody has to break the mould but it feels kinda like hoping the Warriors come good

Hey hey now. They're the best NRL team in New Zealand

Gone 1 night and I miss 12 pages. To save anyone else in a similar position here is the result:

MS played a weird coin toss game with players names
There's a list of players getting a failhub discount
Big reveal 4 trades are round 15 this year
Carty party is back baby
Post your age to satisfy the fantasies of a new poster
Mulvy's still fucking up posts
Welshy's in denial that Wales isn't part of England
Everyone's team relies on TLT

As for the age thing, I've seen Newtown play top flight footy at Henson Park.
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My contribution to current proceedings is take Grant out of your team now to save you time later. Rumour is NRL have it in the too hard basket and wont be approving it.

Mulvy wrote:But for some reason I don't like the idea of trading him in after six rounds, out again for origin and back in afterwards, 3 trades. He's a must have for final 17.

I did this for Ponga, Tedesco, and Cook last year, worked out alright  

Admittedly, bringing Ponga back with my very last trade was a shocker.

castlecrag sweethearts wrote:

If they put Bird at fullback during the season what does that mean for everyone who has chosen Isaako?

https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-premiership/teams/broncos/darius-boyd-to-play-centre-as-jack-bird-named-as-fullback-for-brisbane-broncos-trial-game/news-story/a2a7d87bdd1540ba4a67175c14fc7a80

If Bird ends up at fullback during the season, then Isaako's form must have been terrible, and whoever had him would have traded him out by then anyway.

Mulvy wrote:I'm not sold on Croft. Burns could potentially be a rd 12 playing season keeper at a big discount. He was in all my early drafts until I fell in love with my new forward pack. Croft will probably be a trade eventually.

If you're starting with Croft then you're probably expecting nearish keeper scores, yeah? Good enough to have in your side up until, or after, origin. You looking for high 40's, and I imagine if he's giving you that, then you're not too worried about upgrading him until later on in the season.

You're not really buying him if you think he will average low 40's, although that would be servicable enough.

Goodnight Kiwi wrote:

Agree here Pookus. Hold tight! I am also a Burns fanboy and he is staying in my side. Potential cut price gun centre in a tricky position v potential 2nd-tier-gun Half that will need to be traded for a final team.

7 games of 80mins in 2019 for a 44.7 average. Priced at 34. Shhhhh

I woke up with Burns back in my side. Facilitated by Chewie's news from Newcastle.

Easy E, Burns and Stimson in my 17 outscores and makes more money than A Fifita, Capewell and Luai (who goes back to npr). Possibly gives me one or two extra rd 12 players also.

my tv broke wrote:

If you're starting with Croft then you're probably expecting nearish keeper scores, yeah? Good enough to have in your side up until, or after, origin. You looking for high 40's, and I imagine if he's giving you that, then you're not too worried about upgrading him until later on in the season.

You're not really buying him if you think he will average low 40's, although that would be servicable enough.

Exactly right, I've got him about mid 40's which is not quite enough to make cash or keep until origin. If you're picking him it's because you think he'll get at least high 40's which makes cash and is serviceable until the byes BUT with the upside that gun scores aren't out of the question also. He could totally be one I regret. I just feel like Burns has a higher chance of elite gun scores in his position than Croft does in his position.