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    NRL Fantasy 2020 Part 8

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    Post by standard-issue Sun Feb 23, 2020 8:35 pm

    castlecrag sweethearts wrote:Made a team Haas, Smith and Friend. Makes it hard to have solid WFB/HLF but there is quite a bit a flexibility back there.

    9. Cameron Smith (perpetual upside)
    8. Payne Haas (I have come around I think. He is easily the best FRF. I think there is a chance he could average 70 or very close to it)
    10. Patrick Carrigan (no brainer if starting lock and in the leadership team)
    11. Jaydn Su'A (my pick of the South's 2RF to get 80 minutes)
    12. Jack Williams (I feel he will take Gallen's role and be remarkable value)
    13. Brandon Smith (I picked him at the start of the orf-season and Bethany reminded me of why. I have little doubt he will play a bigger minute than role and be great value)
    6. Jarome Hughes (I am sticking solid... if I had some more coin, I may consider G, Williams instead but it is a lock in for now. May also consider Dylan Brown depending on how the Eels trial goes)
    7. Ashley Taylor (certainly under-priced based based on not kicking for the first four games of last season, I think even if he comes only half-way good he will make good early cash)
    3. Braydon Burns (set and forget, I hope!.... He is a solid player)
    4. Mitchell Aubbuson (how could you not? Black Widow no longer. At least 12 points under-valued)
    2. Scott Drinkwater (Solid pick for his price. Will benefit greatly from homes)
    5. Alexander Brimson (If he stays at full back, I think I am convinced. I mean I have some doubts but he scores very well in this position)
    1. Ryan Papenhuyzen (I doubt the doubt. I believe there are some people trying to outsmart less experienced players. He will also benefit Hughes a lot)

    14. Jake Friend (Great POD in this position)
    15. Blayke Brailey (Solid choice without Cam King there. Will do his bench job well. Score reasonably, make cash, get upgraded)
    16. Jarome Luai (exactly what you want in a benchie. Exploit for rapid cash and then move on)
    17. Billy Magoulias (I am confident he gets a big enough role to generate cash and perhaps even more)

    Gotta take some risk to go with two massive guns and that is where the NPR comes in. Very TLT dependent. Players  will be selected for reliable cover in all positions and the potential to make cash. At the moment

    Curran Walters Leleisiuao & Crichton (If I could afford Shibasaki, I would have him instead of Crichton. I think he is a safer bet and more likely to play)


    Hmmm, the Ash Taylor pick is very interesting. I haven't looked at the correlation with when TRob is playing and not, so will that affect him? Is that why Taylor didn't kick much in the early Rounds? I haven't looked but assuming you've done a decent analysis.
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    Post by Guest Sun Feb 23, 2020 8:38 pm

    Teeth Eater wrote:

    Just seeing what I've seen of him and Lino, admittedly probably only over the previous two years, I find it completely inconceivable that a team would start Mann over Lino... but who knows, maybe other stuff I am not privy to as to why it's even a question, let alone looks like going the way of Mann rather than Lino.

    Anyway, completely random rookie question time again;

    So, for example, a player kicks from his 40m line, but the kick goes dead in goal, he still gets KM, I assume? But how many? Does he get points for 60m? Or because the ball gets brought back out for a 20m restart, does he only get points for 40m? Sorry for the stupid question, but I'm curious.

    I think he gets 0 km's if he kicks the ball out on the full or dead in goal
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    Post by code delta Sun Feb 23, 2020 8:42 pm

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    If you can give me some advice on my side I’ll give you advice on yours as I always do.

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    Post by castlecrag sweethearts Sun Feb 23, 2020 8:49 pm

    standard-issue wrote:

    Hmmm, the Ash Taylor pick is very interesting.  I haven't looked at the correlation with when TRob is playing and not, so will that affect him?  Is that why Taylor didn't kick much in the early Rounds?  I haven't looked but assuming you've done a decent analysis.

    Does not seem to be too much correlation. I assumed he was protecting an injury. I just think it is a risk worth taking. I don't thin the Fan Hub tax is big enough to be a downside. Make cash then ship out to higher value HLF. I think HLF is such a difficult one. I am liking the number of potentially undervalued HLF/WFB. This makes it easy to adjust the ship with minimal trades if required.
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    Post by robelgordo Sun Feb 23, 2020 8:50 pm

    MilfordTheMagician wrote:

    So, literally the same as 2019?

    I had him for a long period last season. He started off with some big scores, then it was horribly painful owning him for the next few weeks as he put up some awful scores.

    Inconsistent is a good word to sum him up.

    Well they have a better coach and won’t be changing their spine every few weeks. I’m not planning to get him, but if I was looking at the Williams/Croft/Flanagan range I would consider.
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    Post by standard-issue Sun Feb 23, 2020 8:56 pm

    castlecrag sweethearts wrote:
    standard-issue wrote:

    Hmmm, the Ash Taylor pick is very interesting.  I haven't looked at the correlation with when TRob is playing and not, so will that affect him?  Is that why Taylor didn't kick much in the early Rounds?  I haven't looked but assuming you've done a decent analysis.

    Does not seem to be too much correlation. I assumed he was protecting an injury. I just think it is a risk worth taking. I don't thin the Fan Hub tax is big enough to be a downside. Make cash then ship out to higher value HLF. I think HLF is such a difficult one. I am liking the number of potentially undervalued HLF/WFB. This makes it easy to adjust the ship with minimal trades if required.

    I'm going to give this a good look over the next few days.
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    Post by code delta Sun Feb 23, 2020 9:00 pm

    castlecrag sweethearts wrote:Some thinking out loud about Dylan Brown as one of those picks that may be gold in hindsight.

    At his price how much cash do you see him generating before trading him? Or do you see him as a season keeper?
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    Post by Bethany_B Sun Feb 23, 2020 9:11 pm

    Who do we think will score more?

    A: Burns + Luai (with the other instance I could take Luai out of my 17 but still keep him in my squad)

    B: Shibasaki + Brimson

    I really want Brimson in my side (45 avg. in 70+ min games at FB last year and priced at 32), but I also really rate Burns (44 avg in games he didn't get injured in, priced at 36) and it would help cover CTR instead of relying on Shitbasaki or whichever other rookie I pick there
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    Post by Fortitude Sun Feb 23, 2020 9:12 pm

    Have decided  (for this week) g.williams will be my punt to start the year. Pretty conventional outside of that.
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    Post by Drifterspence Sun Feb 23, 2020 9:23 pm

    Does anyone know if Matterson is playing on the same side as Moses, based on how Manu Ma'u went last year I would think whoever is on his side would be great value.
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    Post by Bethany_B Sun Feb 23, 2020 9:27 pm

    Drifterspence wrote:Does anyone know if Matterson is playing on the same side as Moses, based on how Manu Ma'u went last year I would think whoever is on his side would be great value.

    Pretty sure he is, with Lane staying on the left where he was last year
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    Post by wolfking Sun Feb 23, 2020 9:31 pm

    It's a shame what was looking like the most variation in starting teams in years has bottlenecked into all teams starting to look the same haha.

    Friend
    Haas Knight
    Fifita Lucy Guerra
    Moses Drinky
    Aubbs Watkins
    Papy Aekins Lomax

    Koro Brailey Carrigan Luai

    Mago Musgrove Crichton Keppie

    Not liking playing Laui at 17.  See what happens.  Will keep Guerra if he starts.  Don't think Crichton will dethrone Naden or Whare so will have to wait until TLT.  Wouldn't mind upgrading Watkins to Suli too.  Can downgrade Guerra if he doesn't start.  54K left with this squad, not bad.  I'm sad I have to get rid of Nofo but I just think it's too risky starting with him straight off the bat.

    EDIT: Just downgraded Guerra to Williams and Watkins to Suli.

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    Haas Knight
    Fifita Lucy Williams
    Moses Drinky
    Aubbs Suli
    Papy Aekins Lomax

    Koro Brailey Carrigan Luai

    Mago Musgrove Crichton Keppie
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    Post by Loomer Sun Feb 23, 2020 10:00 pm

    Fortitude wrote:Have decided  (for this week) g.williams will be my punt to start the year. Pretty conventional outside of that.

    I wouldn't get Wighton after absolute break out season priced almost the same let alone a new half from Superleague. Seems a bit of a gamble
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    Post by Rabbits21 Sun Feb 23, 2020 10:15 pm

    wolfking wrote:It's a shame what was looking like the most variation in starting teams in years has bottlenecked into all teams starting to look the same haha.

    Friend
    Haas Knight
    Fifita Lucy Guerra
    Moses Drinky
    Aubbs Watkins
    Papy Aekins Lomax

    Koro Brailey Carrigan Luai

    Mago Musgrove Crichton Keppie

    Not liking playing Laui at 17.  See what happens.  Will keep Guerra if he starts.  Don't think Crichton will dethrone Naden or Whare so will have to wait until TLT.  Wouldn't mind upgrading Watkins to Suli too.  Can downgrade Guerra if he doesn't start.  54K left with this squad, not bad.  I'm sad I have to get rid of Nofo but I just think it's too risky starting with him straight off the bat.

    EDIT:  Just downgraded Guerra to Williams and Watkins to Suli.

    Friend
    Haas Knight
    Fifita Lucy Williams
    Moses Drinky
    Aubbs Suli
    Papy Aekins Lomax

    Koro Brailey Carrigan Luai

    Mago Musgrove Crichton Keppie
    Looks good. Hopefully Knight plays in the CS on Saturday otherwise he will be underdone.

    Suli is a roller coaster ride and can score a 50 and then a 9 or 10.

    Are you predicting him to become a bit more consistent?

    I think he’s priced at 26, so what do you see him averaging? Usually he averages about 30.
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    Post by Chewie Sun Feb 23, 2020 10:30 pm

    Bethany_B wrote:Who do we think will score more?

    A: Burns + Luai (with the other instance I could take Luai out of my 17 but still keep him in my squad)

    B: Shibasaki + Brimson

    I really want Brimson in my side (45 avg. in 70+ min games at FB last year and priced at 32), but I also really rate Burns (44 avg in games he didn't get injured in, priced at 36) and it would help cover CTR instead of relying on Shitbasaki or whichever other rookie I pick there

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    Post by Chewie Sun Feb 23, 2020 10:36 pm

    standard-issue wrote:

    Hmmm, the Ash Taylor pick is very interesting.  I haven't looked at the correlation with when TRob is playing and not, so will that affect him?  Is that why Taylor didn't kick much in the early Rounds?  I haven't looked but assuming you've done a decent analysis.

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    Does not seem to be too much correlation. I assumed he was protecting an injury. I just think it is a risk worth taking. I don't thin the Fan Hub tax is big enough to be a downside. Make cash then ship out to higher value HLF. I think HLF is such a difficult one. I am liking the number of potentially undervalued HLF/WFB. This makes it easy to adjust the ship with minimal trades if required.

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    I'm going to give this a good look over the next few days.

    AT did carry a leg injury early last season, wasn't in a great mental state either, expect scores around the 40-45 mark from him, he does have a bit of an injury history though...
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    Post by Rabbits21 Sun Feb 23, 2020 10:37 pm

    Bethany_B wrote:Who do we think will score more?

    A: Burns + Luai (with the other instance I could take Luai out of my 17 but still keep him in my squad)

    B: Shibasaki + Brimson

    I really want Brimson in my side (45 avg. in 70+ min games at FB last year and priced at 32), but I also really rate Burns (44 avg in games he didn't get injured in, priced at 36) and it would help cover CTR instead of relying on Shitbasaki or whichever other rookie I pick there
    A, but not by much.
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    Post by Rabbits21 Sun Feb 23, 2020 10:42 pm

    Well for the fact Tyrone Roberts is carrying an Achilles injury and is in strong doubt for round 1 wouldn’t that mean Ash Taylor gets the goal kicking too?

    If he’s partnered in the halves with Peachey well he will be doing all the kicking Taylor.

    Don’t think he will be in my team though.
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    Post by rhinoceroo Sun Feb 23, 2020 10:55 pm

    Managed to shoehorn Friend, Haas, Tolo, Difita, Moses and TTrbo into a side, but it requires EIGHT sub-250k players, and even with a kind TLT that seems like asking for trouble with trades.

    Back to the drawing boards, where it looks like 90% of people's teams are the same.

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    Post by Rabbits21 Sun Feb 23, 2020 10:56 pm

    Stats have updated in the last few hours for the Dragons and Knights trial. Minutes are still stuffed though.

    Lomax is updated to having scored 39 points. From memory he played 60mins.

    4 goals, 2 try assists, 12 for 102 metres, 2 tackle breaks, 1 line break assist, 3 tackles with 1 missed. He did make 1 error though and they took that off which is wrong, so he actually scored 37 points in.
    60mins.

    I think Lomax is priced at 27. If you are going with him you’d hope he can average as close to 35 as possible.

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