NRL Fantasy 2020 Part 8

Mulvy wrote:

Cheers mate. Any ideas if these times are local, AEDT or Qld time?

I believe the entire list is in AEDT, as Sydney is the centre of the universe and it would make no sense at all for the graphic artist to actually clarify that on the image..

EDIT: lol just  noticed at the very bottom it confirms all times AEDT

Chewie wrote:

I've had Haas and Lolo in my recent drafts, but the concern I have is that it limits my choice of cash cows to unknown cheapies or players like Su'a whose stats and job role does not really excite me. If I leave Lolo out, I've got a bit more cash to play with and it will give me a bench that is a bit more promising.
However, if TLT gives us a few more bargain price starters, I'll probably be able to run with the Wrecking Ball combo

Yeah hopefully. I mean last year without checking, there was Garrick, Sivo, Sele, Ravalawa, Burr, Katoa, probably a couple of bench forwards I can't remember, that's on top of Nikora and almost cheapies like Bird, Kahu, Lawrie. A few should pop up hopefully.

StormTrooper96 wrote:Re-did my team today and I don't really like it. Not sure why just not a fan. Can't seem to pick that extra POD in my team. I feel like I am missing something. Too cookie cutter.

Start with a backrow of Arrow Murray Matterson, and a gun halves pairing of DCE and SJ/Munster and build around that.

There you go bud, completely anti-template... entirely guns

my tv broke wrote:

I believe the entire list is in AEDT, as Sydney is the centre of the universe and it would make no sense at all for the graphic artist to actually clarify that on the image..

EDIT: lol just  noticed at the very bottom it confirms all times AEDT

whoops! so they are

For those looking at Ramien he got charged with grade 1 dangerous contact to head/neck on Ponga. He'll likely take early plea so he doesn't miss a week but he'll then be starting season with 75 carryover points (assuming he doesn't have any previous carryovers) which would be quite risky as any minor infringement would see him miss a week which would be a nuisance as it wouldn't be enough for a trade and leave you with 560k in EMG

Cam Murray has never really got any more than 60mins a game and has never let us down for many less than 60pts.

If Wayne the senile old bastard is moving the most talented lock in Australia to an edge to give
us more of him, I think we need to re-think him not being part of the fanatics template

GreenMachine wrote:Cam Murray has never really got any more than 60mins a game and has never let us down for many less than 60pts.

If Wayne the senile old bastard is moving the most talented lock in Australia to an edge to give
us more of him, I think we need to re-think him not being part of the fanatics template

I'm just guessing like everyone else... but it would seem to me that he is going to play 80 mins fairly regularly, with a little bit of that spent in the middle.

I can't really see why he would play a large part of the game on an edge, but still only play 60 ish mins. Maybe he has a 5 to 10 min break during the second half. No way he gets subbed in the first half if he starts the game out wide. No starting 2rf gets subbed in teh first half except for Franky Winterstein  

He will still get heavily involved while on an edge because he's just that type of player, he's in everything.

I guess the CS might give us an indication, but we've been led astray by the CS in the past.

Priced at 55 though, he could average 60, but is that really worth it?

GreenMachine wrote:Cam Murray has never really got any more than 60mins a game and has never let us down for many less than 60pts.

If Wayne the senile old bastard is moving the most talented lock in Australia to an edge to give
us more of him, I think we need to re-think him not being part of the fanatics template

He'll likely have less base stats from lower RM/tackles while on the edge but could have higher chance of attacking stats in higher mins

I just think for 800k when he's probably not a reliable captain at 70k less than Lolo you're better off paying for Lolo

Even at lock last year his highest score without a try was 64

my tv broke wrote:

I'm just guessing like everyone else... but it would seem to me that he is going to play 80 mins fairly regularly, with a little bit of that spent in the middle.

I can't really see why he would play a large part of the game on an edge, but still only play 60 ish mins. Maybe he has a 5 to 10 min break during the second half. No way he gets subbed in the first half if he starts the game out wide. No starting 2rf gets subbed in teh first half except for Franky Winterstein  

He will still get heavily involved while on an edge because he's just that type of player, he's in everything.

I guess the CS might give us an indication, but we've been led astray by the CS in the past.

Priced at 55 though, he could average 60, but is that really worth it?

I agree. I look at that pack and just see 80mins.

He’s a legit contender to Tlolo slot with me. Not sure can squeeze them both in

Camo123 wrote:

He'll likely have less base stats from lower RM/tackles while on the edge but could have higher chance of attacking stats in higher mins

I just think for 800k when he's probably not a reliable captain at 70k less than Lolo you're better off paying for Lolo

Even at lock last year his highest score without a try was 64

Confirmation bias of the worst kind.

I’m not sure why on earth you would subtract tries with a player like cam Murray?

Right back at ya... he had 3 sub 80min games where he scored 80pts*


*yes includes tries

GreenMachine wrote:

Confirmation bias of the worst kind.

I’m not sure why on earth you would subtract tries with a player like cam Murray?

Right back at ya... he had 3 sub 80min games where he scored 80pts*


*yes includes tries

It's not subtracting tries it's more saying you don't know when/how many tries he could score if you were to captain him. Would you be going off match-up? With 2 try-scoring games against 2019 top 8 would you captain him with early draw where they face 5 2019 top 8 teams in opening 7 rounds

Also technically didn't score 80 points on 2 of those occasions in 2019 (it was 79 and 78 )

The 64 points without a try is what I was saying is his possible ceiling if he doesn't score. He could be playing 80 which would increase that but again the time spent on the edge may decrease the base stats compared to lock (while offering up a possible increased chance of attacking stats)

Wouldn't the most reasonable comparison of Murray playing 80 min edge be Crichton 2018 season? Averaged 54.6 with lowest mins 69. Murray priced at 55

GreenMachine wrote:Cam Murray has never really got any more than 60mins a game and has never let us down for many less than 60pts.

If Wayne the senile old bastard is moving the most talented lock in Australia to an edge to give
us more of him, I think we need to re-think him not being part of the fanatics template

I've only made one team all off season and Murray was in it right up til last night when I had another tinker. I don't buy into the not being a reliable captaincy choice. If I can guarantee that I get 120pts outta my captain on a weekly basis I'm fine with that, that being said I'll also run Haas.

The only reason I have against having Murray as a season long keeper is SOO. He's locked and loaded for that.

Looking forward to Knight and Carrigan getting DPP

Chewie wrote:Looking forward to Knight and Carrigan getting DPP

As has been said before with the lack of good FRF options available them getting DPP doesn't improve things much

If you think Murray is going to average 60 you absolutely have to start with him. Keeper level scores at a discount are gold

Personally I think the change in role will not meaningfully change his scores

Loomer wrote:

As has been said before with the lack of good FRF options available them getting DPP doesn't improve things

Doesn't help at the start of the year but could help round 3

Example: Gun second rower (Taumalolo/Bateman) cop a 3 week injury or suspension. Too much cash to have sitting on the pine. Flip to Haas and shuffle Carrigan/Knight down to 2rf

Loomer wrote:Wouldn't the most reasonable comparison of Murray playing 80 min edge be Crichton 2018 season? Averaged 54.6 with lowest mins 69. Murray priced at 55

Not directly pointing at you here Loomer, just quoted you to continue the Murray convo. Not 100% sure why we care what a keeper is priced at at the beginning of a season except for the way it impacts building your initial team.

I'll have that many cows in my team to make me money that I shouldn't need to rely on keepers to do that. I'm not buying Haas to try and make coin, in fact I anticipate he'll lose a rather large chunk of his starting money initially. Come the end of the season tho I feel he'll be one guy I definitely want in my top 17. I also think Murray is likely to be one of the top 5 2RF's. Therefore, I get him now or I get him later but either way you'll likely be getting him.

This is just my thinking/opinion and in no way, shape or form reflects upon Fanatics.

Just did a draft with Lolo and Haas in it... Boy was hard to fit in enough viable players... Mind you I also still had Friend, Burns, Fifita.

My thinking this year is

HOK: Load up on midrangers
FRF: Haas Carrigan (Locked in and won't be changing, unless TLT says otherwise)
2RF: Mid Range Heaven
HLF: Gun Midranger
CTR: Gun Cow
WFB: Mid Range Heaven

BENCH: Mid Range Heaven
EMG: Cows

multiple.scoregasms wrote:If you think Murray is going to average 60 you absolutely have to start with him. Keeper level scores at a discount are gold

Personally I think the change in role will not meaningfully change his scores

I guess that's the question right? I personally don't see him being under 55 mark. He may not also average over the 60 mark but which other second rowers do we expect to? His consistency is too hard to ignore.

For interests sake MS, who would be your top 5 and what do you expect em to average over the season?

Id think Lolo, Murray, Jurbo will all be up there, rounded out by two of Fifita, Matterson, Brown and Bateman (depending on how he returns from injury).