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    NRL Fantasy 2020 Part 28 - too many guns

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    Post by Camo123 Tue Jun 02, 2020 5:55 pm

    Had a look at last year with Taumalolo foot injury, only missed one game with that plantar fascia injury
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    Post by Regulator Tue Jun 02, 2020 5:57 pm

    Early thoughts are

    Brailey
    Walters

    For

    Clark
    Turbo

    Yes Brailey and Walters still have money to make, but these two will do the same, get a keeper in the process, and avoid the risk that Turbo goes and gets a hundred.

    Very tempted to just swap Taumalolo for Mcinnis or Cook. Will need to find money for them eventually anyway, so instead I'll just find it for Taumalolo down the line. Costs me one trade but at least one round of a big extra score if not more.
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    Post by eyipftwari Tue Jun 02, 2020 6:01 pm

    lolo drinkwater sua
    to
    ponga yeo katoa

    I have had lolo from the start and with a short season and my faith in yeo to match in scores i decided to trade plus it allows me to bring in ponga

    thumbs up for good trade down for not worth it
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    Post by GreenMachine Tue Jun 02, 2020 6:03 pm

    Regulator wrote:Early thoughts are

    Brailey
    Walters

    For

    Clark
    Turbo

    Yes Brailey and Walters still have money to make, but these two will do the same, get a keeper in the process, and avoid the risk that Turbo goes and gets a hundred.

    Very tempted to just swap Taumalolo for Mcinnis or Cook. Will need to find money for them eventually anyway, so instead I'll just find it for Taumalolo down the line. Costs me one trade but at least one round of a big extra score if not more.

    Tracey onto the bench is prob not great for Brailey.
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    Post by t43597 Tue Jun 02, 2020 6:04 pm

    Wrt Lolo, if he misses 2 weeks and comes back in top form im happy having held him. If he comes back after a week or 2 and struggles for a few weeks im not so happy having held him. I'm trying to say that if it was guaranteed that he comes back at his best id hold him much longer than if he was coming back early and was still feeling the effects of his injury.

    Realistically id probably even hold him for 3 weeks if it was guaranteed he'd come back and fire but obviously even if they announced that it was a 3 weeker you cant assume he comes back at his best thus its an easy decision to trade. That is what is on my mind, how does he perform first/second/third week back? That said, even if i expected him to return poorly id hold him this week. If i heard he'd definitely miss 2 games and no more, id probably hold.

    However, i fully understand that it is a big decision. It is significant because that much money tied up in a player who is out or performing at a level equivalent to say 100k+ below his price, is very detrimental to your team. That said, i will hold for now. I'm hoping that he is such a beast that he comes back in a week or 2 and scores a nice 80+ but i understand the doubt and if i heard someone was trading him i would reserve judgement.
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    Post by Revraiser Tue Jun 02, 2020 6:07 pm

    t43597 wrote:Wrt Lolo, if he misses 2 weeks and comes back in top form im happy having held him. If he comes back after a week or 2 and struggles for a few weeks im not so happy having held him. I'm trying to say that if it was guaranteed that he comes back at his best id hold him much longer than if he was coming back early and was still feeling the effects of his injury.

    Realistically id probably even hold him for 3 weeks if it was guaranteed he'd come back and fire but obviously even if they announced that it was a 3 weeker you cant assume he comes back at his best thus its an easy decision to trade. That is what is on my mind, how does he perform first/second/third week back? That said, even if i expected him to return poorly id hold him this week. If i heard he'd definitely miss 2 games and no more, id probably hold.

    However, i fully understand that it is a big decision. It is significant because that much money tied up in a player who is out or performing at a level equivalent to say 100k+ below his price, is very detrimental to your team. That said, i will hold for now. I'm hoping that he is such a beast that he comes back in a week or 2 and scores a nice 80+ but i understand the doubt and if i heard someone was trading him i would reserve judgement.

    Needs a TLDR.

    I'm trading LOLO, not copping another hit so early.
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    Post by Welshy Tue Jun 02, 2020 6:08 pm

    Revraiser wrote:

    Needs a TLDR.

    I'm trading LOLO, not copping another hit so early.

    Reckon I'm going same way mate, already holding Cleary
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    Post by Welshy Tue Jun 02, 2020 6:10 pm

    Really want Crichton but no confidence he maintains that 80 minute edge role
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    Post by mattnz Tue Jun 02, 2020 6:11 pm

    t43597 wrote:Wrt Lolo, if he misses 2 weeks and comes back in top form im happy having held him. If he comes back after a week or 2 and struggles for a few weeks im not so happy having held him. I'm trying to say that if it was guaranteed that he comes back at his best id hold him much longer than if he was coming back early and was still feeling the effects of his injury.

    Realistically id probably even hold him for 3 weeks if it was guaranteed he'd come back and fire but obviously even if they announced that it was a 3 weeker you cant assume he comes back at his best thus its an easy decision to trade. That is what is on my mind, how does he perform first/second/third week back? That said, even if i expected him to return poorly id hold him this week. If i heard he'd definitely miss 2 games and no more, id probably hold.

    However, i fully understand that it is a big decision. It is significant because that much money tied up in a player who is out or performing at a level equivalent to say 100k+ below his price, is very detrimental to your team. That said, i will hold for now. I'm hoping that he is such a beast that he comes back in a week or 2 and scores a nice 80+ but i understand the doubt and if i heard someone was trading him i would reserve judgement.
    For me it is all about what I can do with the money. $924k gives me so many options that I don't have otherwise, allows me to trade in 4 players that are all great value, increasing in value and going to plan, all 4 will be season keepers, so trading out 1 injured keeper to bring in 4 its a no-brainer.


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    Post by multiple.scoregasms Tue Jun 02, 2020 6:12 pm

    Welshy wrote:Really want Crichton but no confidence he maintains that 80 minute edge role

    I'm taking the gamble mate. Close to 10 points under valued while starting and one of the few players that can go 100+
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    Post by Honeysett Tue Jun 02, 2020 6:13 pm

    mattnz wrote:
    For me it is all about what I can do with the money. $924k gives me so many options that I don't have otherwise, allows me to trade in 4 players that are all great value, increasing in value and going to plan, all 4 will be season keepers, so its a no-brainer.

    Just playing a little Devils Advocate here, but didn't you have that choice at the start of the year as well? I mean I think it makes sense as long as you think the 4 you get in will out score the rest of the season.
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    Post by Revraiser Tue Jun 02, 2020 6:13 pm

    Welshy wrote:

    Reckon I'm going same way mate, already holding Cleary

    It will reflect people's playing style won't it, to trade or not to trade.
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    Post by multiple.scoregasms Tue Jun 02, 2020 6:14 pm

    mattnz wrote:
    For me it is all about what I can do with the money. $924k gives me so many options that I don't have otherwise, allows me to trade in 4 players that are all great value, increasing in value and going to plan, all 4 will be season keepers, so trading out 1 keeper to bring in 4 its a no-brainer.

    Didn't you do something similar last season and trade out Cook to chase value?

    I understand why a few are getting rid of him, but I'm holding. With trades so limited it's hard to trade out guys you want in your final 17
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    Post by Enchanted Glossy Flamingo Tue Jun 02, 2020 6:15 pm

    Welshy wrote:Could be a season swinger this Taumalolo news.

    95% will hold this week. Most who hold this week will hold next week if he misses again.

    But with shortened season, are his money and points missing too big a factor?

    I'm interested because already suffering weeks with big value players missing multiple weeks Ponga, Cleary, Aubbs (high value CTR) and now Taumalolo. Is it too much to gain back missing those sort of points with that value tied up on the pine?


    I feel echoes of Burns from last year to be honest. I'm tempted to trade him out just because having that 900k of cash scoring points and earning money is a bigger deal when even a single week is a bigger percentage of the entire season. Certainly seems like a less dumb decision than blowing trades on rubbish, dart-throw cash cows at least
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    Post by t43597 Tue Jun 02, 2020 6:15 pm

    mattnz wrote:
    For me it is all about what I can do with the money. $924k gives me so many options that I don't have otherwise, allows me to trade in 4 players that are all great value, increasing in value and going to plan, all 4 will be season keepers, so its a no-brainer.

    Absolutely what you can do with the money comes into it but if you plan on getting Lolo back you do have to plan slightly for that. I.e you have to accept that you need "x" amount in the future to get him back. I will play around with combinations of trades but either way its a tricky decision to make.
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    Post by mattnz Tue Jun 02, 2020 6:15 pm

    Honeysett wrote:

    Just playing a little Devils Advocate here, but didn't you have that choice at the start of the year as well? I mean I think it makes sense as long as you think the 4 you get in will out score the rest of the season.
    Start of the season Twal and Yeo weren't 80 minute middles, Capewell and Mofo both werent playing and have since both shown great form.
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    Post by Welshy Tue Jun 02, 2020 6:16 pm

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    I'm taking the gamble mate. Close to 10 points under valued while starting and one of the few players that can go 100+

    Not sure the early Thursday teamlists will help to much moving forward. Cordner has one edge locked up and I think Aubbs will be back starting either this week or next

    Agree on his value and would be in now if I was confident he locked it down
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    Post by multiple.scoregasms Tue Jun 02, 2020 6:17 pm

    Welshy wrote:

    Not sure the early Thursday teamlists will help to much moving forward. Cordner has one edge locked up and I think Aubbs will be back starting either this week or next

    Agree on his value and would be in now if I was confident he locked it down

    I've got two sets of trades lined up. If Aubbo is on the bench, Crichton comes in for me. If Aubbo misses the 17 I'll probably grab Matterson until we get more certainty
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    Post by Welshy Tue Jun 02, 2020 6:19 pm

    multiple.scoregasms wrote:

    I've got two sets of trades lined up. If Aubbo is on the bench, Crichton comes in for me. If Aubbo misses the 17 I'll probably grab Matterson until we get more certainty

    Who does Aubbo spell if he comes onto the bench you reckon mate? Not worried about that potential then next week Aubbs starting and Crichton back on pine? I'd rather see Aubbs starting so I can play him and get in another gun in 2RF and not worry about the failed trade. I just like you really want Crichton in
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    Post by mattnz Tue Jun 02, 2020 6:22 pm

    t43597 wrote:

    Absolutely what you can do with the money comes into it but if you plan on getting Lolo back you do have to plan slightly for that. I.e you have to accept that you need "x" amount in the future to get him back. I will play around with combinations of trades but either way its a tricky decision to make.
    Unlikely to get him back in, unless I have spare cash at the end of the season and no better options available. Next for me will be getting the top WFBs, rest of the team is pretty much where I need it for now, especially with Cleary back next week. Just need all my cows and mid-rangers to gain in value then harvest them.

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    Yeo Carrigan Katoa
    Moses Cleary
    Crichton Capewell
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