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    Post by multiple.scoregasms Tue Jun 02, 2020 11:26 am

    Rabbits21 wrote:Saw a bit of training this morning. Murray was at lock. Lowe left SR, Sua right SR and then Knight was defending with the bench.

    Mago was doing fitness so not looking likely to play. Roberts training with B team.

    Wasn’t there for more than 20 but its crazy how much better the team look with Murray in the middle. Hope this is what we see this week against Storm.

    From a guy at Souths training this morning.

    Regardless of team lists today starting pack looks like

    Tatola
    Cook
    Tom
    Su’a
    Lowe
    Murray

    Interchange:

    Knight 
    Nicholls
    Sironen 
    Amone

    That's the rotation Souths move to once Knight goes off and Lowe comes on..... Unless it was the start of training I wouldn't read too much into it, it's not like Murray has been playing 80 on the edge
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    Post by Milchcow Tue Jun 02, 2020 11:27 am


    Think I'm going to stay Haasless, and bring in Twal+Trbo or Mofo+Teddy (or maybe even Mofo+trbo+cash)

    Haas would be nice but 2 guns is better than 1.
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    Post by Milchcow Tue Jun 02, 2020 11:29 am

    mattnz wrote:Just thinking that if the game scoring stays this way and the magic number stays low, then cash generation for cows getting 30s will be slower than usual.

    Its not a big deal because the guns will be similarly effected, and are more likely to drop in price to be more affordable
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    Post by Guest Tue Jun 02, 2020 11:30 am

    Milchcow wrote:

    I am not sure Fogarty is going to be a great cow, but we can live in hope.

    Otherwise it looks OK, TLT dependent

    I think I'll pick up Fogarty. He didnt score well but there was a couple of glimpses I liked. Just one big score to get things moving.

    Although, I'm forced to look at his price point so I can get Ponga in.
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    Post by Rapture_NRL Tue Jun 02, 2020 11:32 am

    Verbal Kint wrote:

    I think I'll pick up Fogarty. He didnt score well but there was a couple of glimpses I liked. Just one big score to get things moving.

    Although, I'm forced to look at his price point so I can get Ponga in.

    Agree - His performance didn't end up being fantasy relevant but he looked hungry. If Titans can keep playing with intensity and improve their execution, he could go okay
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    Post by Honey Badger Tue Jun 02, 2020 11:37 am

    What are peoples thoughts on Isaako?
    Not an urgent trade I know but do we think the Broncos will struggle with all their injuries and suspensions? They've got Rooster and Manly next two games.
    Tempted to jump on Tommy T now before the price gaps gets too big
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    Post by my tv broke Tue Jun 02, 2020 11:39 am

    Honey Badger wrote:What are peoples thoughts on Isaako?
    Not an urgent trade I know but do we think the Broncos will struggle with all their injuries and suspensions? They've got Rooster and Manly next two games.
    Tempted to jump on Tommy T now before the price gaps gets too big

    Isaako scored 44 in a team that only had 20 completed sets for the entire game.

    I reckon he'll be fine bro

    Tommy T could just as easily score 35 this week.
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    Post by t43597 Tue Jun 02, 2020 11:41 am

    Ponga has a tough draw in the next 2 weeks but will probably still be value for money. My question is, do i complete the 3 muskateers (Teddy, Turbo, Ponga) or try to sure up a different position. I think i am pretty set on getting Cleary next round and i think Ponga will pump out some big scores after playing Canberra and Melbourne. Obviously he could score well in the next 2 rounds too. Issue is if i dont get Ponga now it will be hard to get him in 3 weeks time as im planning to be cashing in cows in that week.

    Anyway, ive been doing a million trades looking at pretty much every option i can think of. MoFo is a genuine option if i want to save some cash. That may give me option to upgrade in each of the next 3 weeks but i think if he only produces 50s ill probably have to trade him out again if i want a really loaded 17, that will be competitive with the top teams.


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    Post by Adrianoooo Tue Jun 02, 2020 11:41 am

    Verbal Kint wrote:

    I think I'll pick up Fogarty. He didnt score well but there was a couple of glimpses I liked. Just one big score to get things moving.

    Although, I'm forced to look at his price point so I can get Ponga in.

    I liked what I saw from him too. Got involved. Just need the titans to not play like shit for 80 minutes
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    Post by No Worries Tue Jun 02, 2020 11:47 am

    Adrianoooo wrote:

    I liked what I saw from him too. Got involved. Just need the titans to not play like shit for 80 minutes

    They have the Tigers this week. It's the kind of game the Tigers do everything to lose.
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    Post by L-Jimmy Tue Jun 02, 2020 11:47 am

    Adrianoooo wrote:

    I liked what I saw from him too. Got involved. Just need the titans to not play like shit for 80 minutes


    Woah, that’s ambitious. Lisone, Whitbread, Wallace, Boyd.... that pack is going to struggle most weeks - regardless of how gun Arrow and MoFo are.
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    Post by t43597 Tue Jun 02, 2020 11:49 am

    My philosophy at the moment is to transition to pure guns and cows within the next 3-4 weeks. What it means is ill have a loaded 13 and probably down to 15-16 or so. However, i wont have the best depth and will rely on a couple cows to produce decent numbers in the 15/16-17 slots. I will have a scarily good halves combo plus brilliant WFBs and 1-2 really good players sitting on my bench at the 14 and 15 spots. I think this will be my best strategy moving forward, however; it will leave my team susceptible to injuries and potentially dodgy cows.

    I think if im going to have a genuine shot at winning this thing, ill have to be aggressive and just hope that i get a bit of luck with regards to injuries. I dont want to get stuck with mid-rangers who arent getting great scores and arent increasing in value. Early in the season im happy i went with mid-rangers like. Drinkwater/Mann/Leilua but these types of players wont win my the comp.
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    Post by multiple.scoregasms Tue Jun 02, 2020 11:53 am

    t43597 wrote:My philosophy at the moment is to transition to pure guns and cows within the next 3-4 weeks. What it means is ill have a loaded 13 and probably down to 15-16 or so. However, i wont have the best depth and will rely on a couple cows to produce decent numbers in the 15/16-17 slots. I will have a scarily good halves combo plus brilliant WFBs and 1-2 really good players sitting on my bench at the 14 and 15 spots. I think this will be my best strategy moving forward, however; it will leave my team susceptible to injuries and potentially dodgy cows.

    I think if im going to have a genuine shot at winning this thing, ill have to be aggressive and just hope that i get a bit of luck with regards to injuries. I dont want to get stuck with mid-rangers who arent getting great scores and arent increasing in value. Early in the season im happy i went with mid-rangers like. Drinkwater/Mann/Leilua but these types of players wont win my the comp.

    Be careful about going too hard too early. Teams that don't generate enough cash burn out at the back end of the year as they get swamped by teams with extra guns. You need players scoring above their price to be competitive, which the likes of Drinkwater/Mann/Leilua will do for another 4-5 weeks atleast
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    Post by GreenMachine Tue Jun 02, 2020 11:55 am

    Milchcow wrote:

    I am not sure Fogarty is going to be a great cow, but we can live in hope.

    Otherwise it looks OK, TLT dependent

    Just as your post so rightly put again around trades, have to also appreciate that some of the cows you buy as enablers are not “cows” for your own team, but 18-21 Cashouts

    And that is fine too. They are just as important in gun 17 assembly. Especially at the price Averillo or Fogarty are at
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    Post by wolfking Tue Jun 02, 2020 11:59 am

    If you guys had Nodo, do you consider him a keeper? Started on a crazy purple patch, but after this week playing the Ttians, he easily can become Teddy. I'd love to keep him all year but don't see him keeping up the scoring he has. But saying that, the signs from him have been great.
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    Post by StormTrooper96 Tue Jun 02, 2020 11:59 am

    multiple.scoregasms wrote:

    Be careful about going too hard too early. Teams that don't generate enough cash burn out at the back end of the year as they get swamped by teams with extra guns. You need players scoring above their price to be competitive, which the likes of Drinkwater/Mann/Leilua will do for another 4-5 weeks atleast

    It is better to have trades in the pocket in the back end of the year. I was guns blazing up the ladder up until about R21 when I ran out of trades, those last 4 weeks I had injuries/suspensions and rocketed down the ladder to finish just outside the 1000. I am at 112 and still plotting the best way to make it up the ladder. ATM I think saving trades, and jumping off cows at the right time is key (think Walters and Kennedy this week).
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    Post by t43597 Tue Jun 02, 2020 12:00 pm

    multiple.scoregasms wrote:

    Be careful about going too hard too early. Teams that don't generate enough cash burn out at the back end of the year as they get swamped by teams with extra guns. You need players scoring above their price to be competitive, which the likes of Drinkwater/Mann/Leilua will do for another 4-5 weeks atleast

    Thats true, i think ill go hard for the next 2 weeks and then might reassess. Leilua will stay in my team and 1 of Drinkwater/Mann will probably stay too so i need to get the balance right. I think with the shorter season i have to go hard but you're right in that i need to be a bit careful and that means carefully assessing the cows, mid pricers and guns available and being able to manouevre through the ever changing Fantasy landscape, so to speak. What i will say is that i think im confident in my cows at 18 and 19 but my final 2 cows are the issue. Generally though, im going to look to be aggressive but ill keep my options open too. I have changed my mind and will probably use all 4 trades this round to get a genuine gun and then get a nice kitty to grab Cleary but like i said, once i do that ill step back and reassess.
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    Post by wolfking Tue Jun 02, 2020 12:00 pm

    Verbal Kint wrote:

    I think I'll pick up Fogarty. He didnt score well but there was a couple of glimpses I liked. Just one big score to get things moving.

    Although, I'm forced to look at his price point so I can get Ponga in.

    If he's garunteed to keep a spot, I may trade him in. I don't trust him and am not confident in him at all, but if he got that try awarded he'd be on his way to make some nice coin.
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    Post by GreenMachine Tue Jun 02, 2020 12:02 pm

    Honey Badger wrote:What are peoples thoughts on Isaako?
    Not an urgent trade I know but do we think the Broncos will struggle with all their injuries and suspensions? They've got Rooster and Manly next two games.
    Tempted to jump on Tommy T now before the price gaps gets too big

    Like him. Was a coinflip Isaako and cash vs TommyT for me last week.

    Coin fell the right way but hard to see Turbo getting a ton anytime soon if 72 is his score with 2 tries and 3 assists. Isaako looked good again and scored healthy in less pretty way... without much ball
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    Post by StormTrooper96 Tue Jun 02, 2020 12:02 pm

    t43597 wrote:

    Thats true, i think ill go hard for the next 2 weeks and then might reassess. Leilua will stay in my team and 1 of Drinkwater/Mann will probably stay too so i need to get the balance right. I think with the shorter season i have to go hard but you're right in that i need to be a bit careful and that means carefully assessing the cows, mid pricers and guns available and being able to manouevre through the ever changing Fantasy landscape, so to speak. What i will say is that i think im confident in my cows at 18 and 19 but my final 2 cows are the issue. Generally though, im going to look to be aggressive but ill keep my options open too. I have changed my mind and will probably use all 4 trades this round to get a genuine gun and then get a nice kitty to grab Cleary but like i said, once i do that ill step back and reassess.

    You have to also remembers guys like Yeo/Api/Capewell/Turbo/Haas/Teddy/McInnes won't score 80 plus every week. Old Joe Blow on your team who scored a nice 45 this week can easily pump out a 70+ score next week whilst Yeo falls back to earth with a mediocre 41.

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