NRL Fantasy 2021 Part 2 - Backdoor Entry

sgdragons10 wrote:no one has mentioned cody ramsey from dragons, coaches talking him up alot. will definitely start on wing possibly start at FB, TB galore with his step

Is that why Dufty hasn’t been offered a contract for 2022 onwards as Ramsey may take over at fullback?

I can’t seem him starting fullback round 1 unless Dufty is injured this year.

If he’s on the wing my concern is he will rely on tries to be fantasy relevant and when he goes a month without a try he may have a few sub 20 scores.....

Finger Puppet Mafia wrote:

Mate is Gosi gets named to start on the edge I would be worried. Check out his stats on games aged last year for 40+ (which you would expect as a starting edge) and it doesn't read for happy reading. Off the top of my head when I had a look late last year he scored a 9 from 60min which included a try.

*** I couldn't help myself had to got back and look at stats. 7 games for 2020 with minutes over 40+ averaged 25 points.

As hilarious as that score is, I think he moved to CTR for injuries during that game

If Gosiewski got spot I would probably avoid (some sub 30 scores as starting 2RF with try)

Rabbits21 wrote:Milford in contention for Broncos captaincy, Kevvie Walters says

https://coupler.foxsports.com.au/api/v1/article/amp/nrl/nrl-premiership/teams/broncos/nrl-2021-brisbane-broncos-kevin-walters-anthony-milford-next-broncos-captain-alex-glenn-payne-haas/news-story/949f8c3f36acaa37415a7d139e26f7bf?__twitter_impression=true

Anyone buying him at 427k

Only 3 months off the pace. Are you buying him ?

https://wwos.nine.com.au/nrl/anthony-milford-brisbane-broncos-future-nrl-news/8776c77d-7b31-4575-98b1-3d5249a0d282

Gosi is a MT machine along the likes of Host.

Will be on a 24 score at the half and miss the next 7 tackles and finish game on 21

Gosiewski also managed a 0 in 33 minutes.

His scores as 60+ minutes 2nd rower are better, but he is not exactly fantasy gold. Anything over 30 would be good. But as he is priced at 21 that could be enough

Wont surprise me if Dufty isnt fb at all. The Dragons arent going to line up the same as last year. The new coach isnt just going to do what got the old coach sacked

No Worries wrote:

Only 3 months off the pace. Are you buying him ?

https://wwos.nine.com.au/nrl/anthony-milford-brisbane-broncos-future-nrl-news/8776c77d-7b31-4575-98b1-3d5249a0d282

Not at this stage but I may change my mind it’s tempting. He does have a career average of 45 at 5/8 and he’s priced at 32. In 2016 & 17 he avg 46 at 5/8, 51 avg in 2018, 54 avg in 2019 and only 33 avg last year. Surely he can’t be that bad again. If he’s made captain I think he will lift under Kevvie. Question is how much upside is there? What can he create in attack?......

Are you buying him?

Camo123 wrote:

I reckon Ponga injury will turn exactly like Jurbo/AFB last preseason where all news was missing the first month and then they just start on TLT

If Ponga isn't fit R1, Hoy is probably even bigger trap as he'd get 2-3 games max

The first grade bubble has limited my access to the first grade squad but we are working with cup and SG ball so see how I go

Rabbits21 wrote:

Not at this stage but I may change my mind it’s tempting. He does have a career average of 45 at 5/8 and he’s priced at 32. In 2016 & 17 he avg 46 at 5/8, 51 avg in 2018, 54 avg in 2019 and only 33 avg last year. Surely he can’t be that bad again. If he’s made captain I think he will lift under Kevvie. Question is how much upside is there? What can he create in attack?......

Are you buying him?

I'm a no. I don't see his work ethic changing enough to make a footy difference let alone a fantasy difference. Like so many, he was a boom rookie who will never reach his media hyped potential. 40 is what you should expect. It takes a truley great player to step up when given the captaincy and not be burden by the responsibility and pressure and he certainly doesn't have that demeanour. Hayme had similar averages and more accolades in the same period of time, he's now facing goal tiime for chewing off a chicks clit. I'd be locking up my daughters if I was a cab ride from Brisbane.

Jeez, this place is well up and running again. Got a lot of catching up and reading to do. Just wanted to pop in and say hi to all.

Been so pre-occupied pretty much since the moment Fantasy finished in 2020, but taken notes as every team guide has dropped over the last fortnight or so. Initial concerns are there's about 30 or 40 cheap to cheap-ish guys I want to take a punt on and it's going to be such a lottery picking the ones that actually fire. Last year I went in hard with a guns/cows strategy and it paid off handsomely, but initial temptations this year are to pretty much go in with almost 21 cows, though admittedly hoping some of those become keepers. But of course I won't do this.

Anyway, just my initial thoughts but I'm going to have a good read over what y'all been talking about and no doubt that will alter my thinking a tad.

Good to be back, hope you're all well and looking forward to doing this thing again.  

filthridden wrote:

My God you're right. He's taken over from Ropati who was a special for this but the other way around, not in terms of tries but just form.

Yeah I have a spreadsheet for Nearly Sport going back to 2014 - not scored the same as fantasy but RTSs best years are 2015, 2017, 2019... 2021?

I think it coincidence but if you like signs...

Id have to check but I think Taumalolo is similar, so possibly an even bigger year incoming for Vaai.

my tv broke wrote:

Same. Havent logged in yet. I am still enjoying my freedom

I logged in but just Autofilled

I’m too into EPL fantasy at the moment, will try and focus on one sport as long as possible.

Milford is an interesting one if you ask me.  If you start with him, you're expecting basically a mid range player to turn into a outright gun.  He's not a gun, not a cow and a big ask for him to get back to form after last year's disaster.  People will definitely get sucked in by past performance and scores.

Saying that, there's so much potential there for low dollars.  Worse comes to worse, he doesn't fire then you cash him out for the next cow.  At the moment he just seems like a mid ranger that you'll get stuck with for too long.  I think if he loses the base stats in kick metres, then he could be in for a few low scores early on.  He doesn't fit the cow/gun strategy I want to go with, but taking a punt on him isn't the silliest move.

robelgordo wrote:

I logged in but just Autofilled

I’m too into EPL fantasy at the moment, will try and focus on one sport as long as possible.

Haha, I too logged in and auto-filled. Trying to pace myself this year. Not a bad autofill though. Cleary on the bench!

People have seemed to move away from a hooker heavy team this year. Currentlu have McInnes, Brailey & Grant but mybench sacrifices a mid range cow

wolfking wrote:Milford is an interesting one if you ask me.  If you start with him, you're expecting basically a mid range player to turn into a outright gun.  He's not a gun, not a cow and a big ask for him to get back to form after last year's disaster.  People will definitely get sucked in by past performance and scores.

Saying that, there's so much potential there for low dollars.  Worse comes to worse, he doesn't fire then you cash him out for the next cow.  At the moment he just seems like a mid ranger that you'll get stuck with for too long.  I think if he loses the base stats in kick metres, then he could be in for a few low scores early on.  He doesn't fit the cow/gun strategy I want to go with, but taking a punt on him isn't the silliest move.

I don't mind it at this stage. As you say he's crazy cheap. Mid 40s will make money and there is a chance he and the Broncos return to form. He has two seasons where he averaged 50+. He still seems to kick even when playing with Dearden, looking at the stats. And has a tremendous ceiling which could supercharge price rises. Given most of us have a red dot most weeks, he's also handy for looping. (Assuming it's still the Friday night Broncos, haven't checked).

Having said that, there's some value at half this year, Moses, Brooks, Munster, Lam, CHT and others.

wolfking wrote:Milford is an interesting one if you ask me.  If you start with him, you're expecting basically a mid range player to turn into a outright gun.  He's not a gun, not a cow and a big ask for him to get back to form after last year's disaster.  People will definitely get sucked in by past performance and scores.

Saying that, there's so much potential there for low dollars.  Worse comes to worse, he doesn't fire then you cash him out for the next cow.  At the moment he just seems like a mid ranger that you'll get stuck with for too long.  I think if he loses the base stats in kick metres, then he could be in for a few low scores early on.  He doesn't fit the cow/gun strategy I want to go with, but taking a punt on him isn't the silliest move.

He could be a cow though. Way I look at it is for a cow I want them to average 10 points above what they’re priced at.

So if Milford can average 42-43 or there about then he should make 130-150k.

But I know what you mean in that he’s not gonna go from mid ranger to gun but he will make some money.

wolfking wrote:Milford is an interesting one if you ask me.  If you start with him, you're expecting basically a mid range player to turn into a outright gun.  He's not a gun, not a cow and a big ask for him to get back to form after last year's disaster.  People will definitely get sucked in by past performance and scores.

Saying that, there's so much potential there for low dollars.  Worse comes to worse, he doesn't fire then you cash him out for the next cow.  At the moment he just seems like a mid ranger that you'll get stuck with for too long.  I think if he loses the base stats in kick metres, then he could be in for a few low scores early on.  He doesn't fit the cow/gun strategy I want to go with, but taking a punt on him isn't the silliest move.

I don’t think he needs to be a gun. Priced at 32 if you think he can get 45-50 he’s easily worth it as a cow IMO. And then, that might even be gun enough for 3rd/4th keeper in the halves.

I’m just not convinced he scores like 2016-19

No Worries wrote:People have seemed to move away from a hooker heavy team this year. Currentlu  have McInnes, Brailey & Grant but mybench sacrifices a mid range cow

My 2nd draft had Cook, McInnes, J. Brailey, Egan, Liddle and Watson lol...

IMO Milford will average 45+ by seasons end but hes always going to be up and down through out the year. Ill see how I feel closer to round 1 if I think he might have a hot start to the year.

Dearden is still super young and he isnt suddenly going to take all the kick metres. Milford has a much better boot, so he shoukd still have an OK base if we arent losing by 30+ every other week again. Kevy is basically pinning his hopes on milford and pangai being our key players, as a Broncos fan it will be interesting to see. I dont think Kevy is the saviour but Im confident Milford is better without Siebolds strict game plans/structural ideas, and stubborness to change.