NRL Fantasy 2021 part 6 - Return of the Party

Bethany_B wrote:

what's next, shorting a fantasy index fund?

Being able to spend part of your cap at the beginning on put and call options for specified rounds in the season would certainly spice Fantasy up*.

(*ensure only about ten people played it)

rhinoceroo wrote:

Being able to spend part of your cap at the beginning on put and call options for specified rounds in the season would certainly spice Fantasy up*.

(*ensure only about ten people played it)

If Wallstreetbets and Fantasy had a baby...

Sat May 30, 2020 10:47 pm "Papy isnt the go to guy at Storm, like Ponga and Teddy are at their clubs. The go to guys are the ones that are getting more opportunities under the new rules. Papy has to create for himself."

Sat Jun 06, 2020 12:05 am "He may get the odd good score this season, but isn't an integral part of the Storm attacking structure the way that the top WFBs are."

So stop trying to say I wasn't saying it at the time, my observations were exactly correct and the trade out fully justified. The fact that the game plan changed after trading him out, doesnt make it any less valid a decision at the time.

mattnz wrote:


You had a mid ranger, clearly non-keeper that wasnt performing. Cut the losses and move the money elsewhere.

A clear non keeper with a floor of 30 in the most inconsistent position in fantasy who almost went large mutiple times actually went large eventually. Shock!

mattnz wrote:
I said it at the time that I traded him out that he wasn't involved in their structured attack. Just repeated what I said then again! You guys are trying to rewrite history as though you could tell they were going to suddenly change the way he was being used in attack. No reason to keep being silly about it.

Did they totally change the game plan for Papy after a few rounds  - Yes. Could anyone have picked that based on what we had seen - No.

You had a mid ranger, clearly non-keeper that wasnt performing. Cut the losses and move the money elsewhere.

You had a player averaging above where he started the season with zero almost attacking stats, everyone said this was his floor and it was rare for a WFB, when he added the attacking stats he was always going to go boom.

Question this year is does he maintain that high floor? and does the GK add to his average or just help sustain

Bethany_B wrote:

If Wallstreetbets and Fantasy had a baby...

Shuddering thinking how Fanhub would deal with this.

mattnz wrote:Sat May 30, 2020 10:47 pm "Papy isnt the go to guy at Storm, like Ponga and Teddy are at their clubs. The go to guys are the ones that are getting more opportunities under the new rules. Papy has to create for himself."

Sat Jun 06, 2020 12:05 am "He may get the odd good score this season, but isn't an integral part of the Storm attacking structure the way that the top WFBs are."

So stop trying to say I wasn't saying it at the time, my observations were exactly correct and the trade out fully justified.

How can you justify trading out a guy averaging 37 at trade out then finishing the season averaging 50?

It was the wrong call, own it.

Welshy wrote:

You had a player averaging above where he started the season

No, was the only player in my team that had lost money, I commented on it at the time as well.

mattnz wrote:
No, was the only player in my team that had lost money, I commented on it at the time as well.

Christ.

You start with Twal

He averages 53 to start season, you trade him out looking for more value. He finishes season averaging 60. Right or wrong call?

Imagine assuming the best coach ever would find a way to use his main attacking asset.

multiple.scoregasms wrote:

If you find a way to play him at centre let me know

In all seriously I don't like any of Isaako, Brimson or Edwards as fantasy options this year. Isaako has best chance of making cash, the other two are slightly below keeper territory

Exactly, which is why I don’t understand why Teddy isn’t an automatic. FB only has two that I’m interested in Teddy and Paps. I still don’t know who my third FB will be. It most certainly won’t be Moylan while he pkays 5/8.

Mattnz, I've made dozens of mistakes in fantasy. I'll drop it if you name three genuine ones of yours.

Welshy wrote:

Christ.

You start with Twal

He averages 53 to start season, you trade him out looking for more value. He finishes season averaging 60. Right or wrong call?

Depends on his minutes, role, bench, injuries. If he was getting 60+ minutes wrong call, if he was getting 50 minutes a game and after you trade him out Tamou and Ofa both get injured and he plays 80 minutes the rest of the season, it was the right call at the time and just bad luck.

No idea how you guys can't understand that decision making can only be made on known information at the time. Things that change after that decision are beyond your control.

@RandomSil fantasy unicorn avatar bet? For the whole of 2022 for whoever scores lower this year?

Let’s do a year a week seems too silly

Mulvy wrote:Mattnz, I've made dozens of mistakes in fantasy. I'll drop it if you name three genuine ones of yours.

Sun Jul 05, 2020 1:29 am Yeah probably doesn't work so well with the players we regret bringing in. I have tried to fix those kinds of regrets asap, they tend to get traded out the next week, if they don't actually stack up with the reason I had decided to bring them in initially. Has saved me a lot of pain this season so far.... guys like Knight, Levi, Magoulias

mattnz wrote:
Depends on his minutes, role, bench, injuries. If he was getting 60+ minutes wrong call, if he was getting 50 minutes a game and after you trade him out Tamou and Ofa both get injured and he plays 80 minutes the rest of the season, it was the right call at the time and just bad luck.

No idea how you guys can't understand that decision making can only be made on known information at the time. Things that change after that decision are beyond your control.

Because the majority of fantasy call are assumptions on the information you have at the time, you can't control injuries, suspensions to your player or players effecting your players.

It's all luck, getting lucky you don't have an injury, getting lucky an injury increases your players role etc etc etc

Sooner you realise you can't control these things the fantasy experience increases

mattnz wrote:
Depends on his minutes, role, bench, injuries. If he was getting 60+ minutes wrong call, if he was getting 50 minutes a game and after you trade him out Tamou and Ofa both get injured and he plays 80 minutes the rest of the season, it was the right call at the time and just bad luck.

No idea how you guys can't understand that decision making can only be made on known information at the time. Things that change after that decision are beyond your control.

I've just looked at your last Assistant Coach post, where you've picked up Simpkin about three minutes after hearing of him and say "he could be this year's Grant, if Liddle gets injured and Madge prefers him".

Fine, he might be a good pick (if he is then everyone will get him before he hits 300k anyway), but don't pretend your decision making is all on "known information at the time" ahead of "factors beyond your control."

mattnz wrote:

Sun Jul 05, 2020 1:29 am Yeah probably doesn't work so well with the players we regret bringing in. I have tried to fix those kinds of regrets asap, they tend to get traded out the next week, if they don't actually stack up with the reason I had decided to bring them in initially. Has saved me a lot of pain this season so far.... guys like Knight, Levi, Magoulias

Umm, so what were your mistakes?

Can we start a mistakes thread and move on please.

The Pascoe Fiasco wrote:Can we start a mistakes thread and move on please.

I'm good with not starting a mistakes thread and moving on anyway?