NRL Fantasy 2021 - In my opinion, this is part 8

Oz Sport Mad wrote:

I like the idea of names on the jerseys but the thought of having random numbers, just willy nilly and all over the shop, is something I will never be on board with.
In fact, I wonder how you blokes can actually live your lives with such an obvious lust for anarchy and disorder???
I bet none of you arrange your pen's in obvious order of colour, size and usage.
Absolute savages.

But if you have names on jerseys, surely it makes sense to have the number remain constant too.

Are clubs expected to print different sets of jerseys every week based on what team gets named? Gotta change that Mbye 6 to Mbye 1 to Mbye 14 back to Mbye 1 again.

30 minutes into a game, 8 and 10 no longer reflect who the props are. Does it really matter if its different at kick off too?
I mean sometimes its hard to work out if the big strong bloke running straight at the defense is a prop or a halfback without seeing the number on hi sback, but I think most people are smart enough to work it out.

Milchcow wrote:

But if you have names on jerseys, surely it makes sense to have the number remain constant too.

Are clubs expected to print different sets of jerseys every week based on what team gets named? Gotta change that Mbye 6 to Mbye 1 to Mbye 14 back to Mbye 1 again.

30 minutes into a game, 8 and 10 no longer reflect who the props are. Does it really matter if its different at kick off too?
I mean sometimes its hard to work out if the big strong bloke running straight at the defense is a prop or a halfback without seeing the number on hi sback, but I think most people are smart enough to work it out.

For the average Joe, only having the identities of 2 x 14-17 to figure out sure beats the hell out of trying to work out who all 34 players are. NRL is a game that markets itself as all inclusive. Adding random numbers just confuses things for no benefit

Oz Sport Mad wrote:

I like the idea of names on the jerseys but the thought of having random numbers, just willy nilly and all over the shop, is something I will never be on board with.
In fact, I wonder how you blokes can actually live your lives with such an obvious lust for anarchy and disorder???
I bet none of you arrange your pen's in obvious order of colour, size and usage.
Absolute savages.

Showing my age and OCD (CDO?) but couldn't agree more. Milchy's link to Superleague game was all kinds of wrong.

ytsb wrote:

For the average Joe, only having the identities of 2 x 14-17 to figure out sure beats the hell out of trying to work out who all 34 players are. NRL is a game that markets itself as all inclusive. Adding random numbers just confuses things for no benefit

You're right I guess.

The average league fan is a lot dumber than the average AFL fan. Have to cater to their inability to count past 17

Surely you'd have 1-30 based on your squad and keep the number for the season?

AL wrote:

Showing my age and OCD (CDO?) but couldn't agree more. Milchy's link to Superleague game was all kinds of wrong.

Haha it certainly made me want to stick to numbers based on position.

Is jersey 51 still available?

Just think about the over-analysis you could put into pre-season squads.

Mitchell Aubusson has squad number 12 - definitely going to be first choice 2nd row

Mitchell Aubusson has squad number 3 - must avoid him

Mitchell Aubusson has squad number 7 - well he did win a Grand Final in that number, must be good luck.

Milchcow wrote:Just think about the over-analysis you could put into pre-season squads.

Mitchell Aubusson has squad number 12 - definitely going to be first choice 2nd row

Mitchell Aubusson has squad number 3 - must avoid him

Mitchell Aubusson has squad number 7 - well he did win a Grand Final in that number, must be good luck.

I guess it would help solve Lawrie v Host and Dearden v Croft.

Milchcow wrote:

But if you have names on jerseys, surely it makes sense to have the number remain constant too.

Are clubs expected to print different sets of jerseys every week based on what team gets named? Gotta change that Mbye 6 to Mbye 1 to Mbye 14 back to Mbye 1 again.

30 minutes into a game, 8 and 10 no longer reflect who the props are. Does it really matter if its different at kick off too?
I mean sometimes its hard to work out if the big strong bloke running straight at the defense is a prop or a halfback without seeing the number on hi sback, but I think most people are smart enough to work it out.

No, it makes no sense whatsoever....

Granted my idea of both set numbers and names creates a minor logistical challenge.....but they have to name team lists by Tuesday and have a new bloody jersey every week anyway.

Worst case scenario this generates an extra job for an assistant tailor and we are doing our bit for the economy, post Jobkeeper finishing up.

Oz Sport Mad wrote:

No, it makes no sense whatsoever....

Granted my idea of both set numbers and names creates a minor logistical challenge.....but they have to name team lists by Tuesday and have a new bloody jersey every week anyway.

Worst case scenario this generates an extra job for an assistant tailor and we are doing our bit for the economy, post Jobkeeper finishing up.

I think the easiest way to do it is...

#1-30. So at the start of the year teams name their top 30 and then that player gets that number for the year. If a player comes over mid year he takes the players number in which he was swapped for. Let's say Ponga is #1 for the Knights and Tex is #16... The whole year Tex will be #16, no matter what position he plays... so based on injuries, guys making team on merit, etc. a team could end up from 1-17 like this

16
2
3
14
5
6
7
15
9
10
11
13
12

17
21
18
30

I think either do it this way or don't do it at all; otherwise, it would create too much work with team lists changing all the time.

Home jersey
Away Jersey
Indigenous jersey
Women in league jersey
Anzac jersey
Mardi gras week jersey
Cultural awareness jersey
Pansexual inclusive jersey
Junior League Round jersey
Magic round jersey

They have a different jersey on every week as it is, so keeping the numbers and changing the names would not be that big a financial impost on the clubs. 
As that I have intimate relations with a woman who takes the jersey orders for a Sydney based club, they are getting new jerseys every round. May be not the whole set but a fair chunk. They  don't all get thrown into the centre of the dressing room at the end of the game and this week it's JWH's turn to take them home to his mum to wash and bring them back next week.

Players having a set jersey for the season would be a good way to ensure they dont put on weight either. Would look a bit silly with an undersized jersey on the field

StormTrooper96 wrote:

I think the easiest way to do it is...

#1-30. So at the start of the year teams name their top 30 and then that player gets that number for the year. If a player comes over mid year he takes the players number in which he was swapped for. Let's say Ponga is #1 for the Knights and Tex is #16... The whole year Tex will be #16, no matter what position he plays... so based on injuries, guys making team on merit, etc. a team could end up from 1-17 like this

16
2
3
14
5
6
7
15
9
10
11
13
12

17
21
18
30

I think either do it this way or don't do it at all; otherwise, it would create too much work with team lists changing all the time.

I think it seems like an ok idea until you see it written down. That's horrendous. Especially when you add a similarly chaotic list next to it for the other team. Like a mad dog's breakfast - all over the shop.

Positions in League and Union have numbers, and hopefully continue to do so.

mattnz wrote:Players having a set jersey for the season would be a good way to ensure they dont put on weight either. Would look a bit silly with an undersized jersey on the field

maybe gen pop needs this

Good compromise would be to adopt something similar to the NFL, where players can choose from a set range of numbers based on their position:

1–9: quarterbacks, kickers, and punters
10–19: quarterbacks, kickers, punters, and wide receivers
20–39: running backs and defensive backs
40–49: running backs, defensive backs, linebackers, and tight ends
50–59: linebackers, defensive linemen, and centers
60–79: offensive linemen and defensive linemen
80–89: wide receivers and tight ends
90–99: linebackers and defensive linemen

That way, you get used to certain numbers being a position e.g. #87 is usually a TE: Gronk, Kelce etc. But there's is also room for the number to become synonymous with a player i.e. Tom Brady 12, Pat Mahomes 15 etc.

Bottom line - it would boost jersey sales which has to be good for the clubs/NRL.

my tv broke wrote:

maybe gen pop needs this

If you are a bloke post about 30 odd and you don't keep a few optimistic medium (or large....) items of apparel.........you are probably lying.

Oz Sport Mad wrote:

If you are a bloke post about 30 odd and you don't keep a few optimistic medium (or large....) items of apparel.........you are probably lying.

Ambition jeans? Yep, got a few. They’ll be right into rotation one i get off the booze and back on the bike.

Starting tomorrow. Tuesday latest. Definitely starting April.

mattnz wrote:Players having a set jersey for the season would be a good way to ensure they dont put on weight either. Would look a bit silly with an undersized jersey on the field

Might enforce this at five a side for comedy value given we only have one player below 35.

L-Jimmy wrote:

Ambition jeans? Yep, got a few. They’ll be right into rotation one i get off the booze and back on the bike.

Starting tomorrow. Tuesday latest. Definitely starting April.

I weighed myself for the first time in years the other day. I'm about 20kg heavier than I was when I was in my early 20s (85kg vs 65kg). I'm by no means overweight now - but I look at that and think how insanely underweight I must have been then.

I wore the same shirt that I wore on my wedding day (15years ago) on our aniversary last year - still fit pretty well, but I had to give my suit pants to Vinnies years ago - not only am I never going to be a 29in waist again, but I can't even get my legs into the super-skinny style that was in fashion at the time