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    NRL Fantasy 2021 - Part 9 - ‘Twas the weekend before TLT

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    Post by The Pascoe Fiasco Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:37 pm

    I just dropped Averillo to 18 as I need a half back up. I’ve got Bird at centre now. I have never been more nervous with a starting player. I’m hoping he moves to the forwards soon enough. It was a choice of Bird or Moylan and I just can’t bear to have Moylan in my 21. Which one get’s injured first?
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    Post by Rabbits21 Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:39 pm

    Mulvy wrote:

    That's how I see it with Host. Also, I'm quite proud of that fact that I picked Lawrie in the now famous debate and don't want to tarnish my image picking Host now Very Happy

    I went Host Finger Bang Bang
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    Post by The Pascoe Fiasco Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:41 pm

    rhinoceroo wrote:Got c.500k for final bench spot. Position doesn't massively matter.

    Options:

    1) Hodgson. POD. New rules, ball steal etc. Guaranteed 80 other than blow-outs, CS9-style. Will play handling lock if Starling comes on, stay hooker if Havilli. Misses tackles but KMs, TAs etc.

    2) Tupounuia. Underpriced from partial bench role last year. Improving player. Next to best attacking half in comp. Rollercoaster scores.

    3) Milford. Gamble on return to form discussed here already.

    4) Lodge. Boring pick for more predictable scores and early price rises. Uncertainty on role from Rnd 4 on but money left in bank gives more options for trading.

    Thoughts?
    Is Hodgson able to play 80 anymore? Canberra will without doubt have a HOK on the bench. I don’t want any, but 2 would be the only one I would consider!
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    Post by The Pascoe Fiasco Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:43 pm

    Rabbits21 wrote:

    I went Host Finger Bang Bang
    I too went host, but he becomes Davey if he jags the starting spot at Manly!
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    Post by Mulvy Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:43 pm

    mattnz wrote:
    The difficulty is finding value in CTR that have the potential to become a keeper.

    So why bother? Not everyone has to be a sub gun (midranger) POD. Centre sucks. Stop looking for a keeper, they don't exist unless they're a dpp forward. Save the money and figure it out later I say.
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    Post by Cookie Monster Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:45 pm

    Revraiser wrote:@Cookie Monster u quoted my post that mentioned TBO but it was empty, now im curious as to what u meant to post ??



    My mum taught me that when you don't have something nice to say about someone.........         well you know the rest Wink












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    Post by The Pascoe Fiasco Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:47 pm

    Okay, this is my final play with my team until 4:01PM on Tuesday! Titans v Tigers! I need one Edge and one Mid. Which two of these 4 Tino (Mid) D Fifita (Edge) Twal (Mid) or Lucy (Edge)
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    Post by mattnz Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:48 pm

    Mulvy wrote:

    So why bother? Not everyone has to be a sub gun (midranger) POD. Centre sucks. Stop looking for a keeper, they don't exist unless they're a dpp forward. Save the money and figure it out later I say.
    There arent any decent cheap options either. If I can set and forget, without spending a lot, I am ahead of everyone else. Keep in mind we value a trade around $150k. Makes a huge difference to get it right to start with and center is a position that you can fill without it costing tonnes to get a potential keeper.


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    Post by Welshy Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:50 pm

    Mulvy wrote:

    You've banged on enough times about not captaining a back, that I call, Malarkey. You heard me, Malarkey. I captained Teddy in rd 1 once, didn't end well......
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    Post by Rabbits21 Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:51 pm

    The Pascoe Fiasco wrote:I just dropped Averillo to 18 as I need a half back up. I’ve got Bird at centre now. I have never been more nervous with a starting player. I’m hoping he moves to the forwards soon enough. It was a choice of Bird or Moylan and I just can’t bear to have Moylan in my 21. Which one get’s injured first?

    Couldn’t fit in Hopoate? He’s 21k more than Bird and has DPP Centre/WFB....

    I got him into my draft a few mins ago draft 30 that was!
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    Post by Welshy Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:53 pm

    mattnz wrote:
    There arent any decent cheap options either. If I can set and forget, without spending a lot, I am ahead of everyone else.
    At least find one where his stats back up some value, and not hoping for an increase
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    Post by mattnz Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:01 pm

    Welshy wrote:
    At least find one where his stats back up some value, and not hoping for an increase
    When new roles  are being created, there are no existing stats for them. It is like when Milf had a hybrid fullback / half role, was playing fullback in attack, receiving the ball from the opposition, and getting almost all the kicking meters. This is the same, getting the best of the stats for center and wing, with a player known for tackle busts getting more opportunities with ball in hand and making more tackles.
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    Post by Mulvy Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:07 pm

    rhinoceroo wrote:Got c.500k for final bench spot. Position doesn't massively matter.

    Options:

    1) Hodgson. POD. New rules, ball steal etc. Guaranteed 80 other than blow-outs, CS9-style. Will play handling lock if Starling comes on, stay hooker if Havilli. Misses tackles but KMs, TAs etc.

    2) Tupounuia. Underpriced from partial bench role last year. Improving player. Next to best attacking half in comp. Rollercoaster scores.

    3) Milford. Gamble on return to form discussed here already.

    4) Lodge. Boring pick for more predictable scores and early price rises. Uncertainty on role from Rnd 4 on but money left in bank gives more options for trading.

    Thoughts?

    Don't like any of them. I'm considering Milford for the same (presumably) 14-17 role.
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    Post by robelgordo Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:08 pm

    rhinoceroo wrote:Got c.500k for final bench spot. Position doesn't massively matter.

    Options:

    1) Hodgson. POD. New rules, ball steal etc. Guaranteed 80 other than blow-outs, CS9-style. Will play handling lock if Starling comes on, stay hooker if Havilli. Misses tackles but KMs, TAs etc.

    2) Tupounuia. Underpriced from partial bench role last year. Improving player. Next to best attacking half in comp. Rollercoaster scores.

    3) Milford. Gamble on return to form discussed here already.

    4) Lodge. Boring pick for more predictable scores and early price rises. Uncertainty on role from Rnd 4 on but money left in bank gives more options for trading.

    Thoughts?

    Interesting question!

    1 if Havili on bench rather than Starling. He is one of approximately 10 dummy halves Im looking at.

    Otherwise 3
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    Post by Jumping Marlin Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:13 pm

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    Post by Mulvy Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:20 pm

    mattnz wrote:
    There arent any decent cheap options either. If I can set and forget, without spending a lot, I am ahead of everyone else. Keep in mind we value a trade around $150k. Makes a huge difference to get it right to start with and center is a position that you can fill without it costing tonnes to get a potential keeper.

    Remember how many trades were wasted on centre last year? $150k per centre trade adds up to lots. So if you said to me, Mulvy, I'm picking Cotric because he's got good job security and a lack of injury history and I couldn't be arsed wasting all that money and trades in the wasteland centre position and I've got a good gut feeling about the guy, I'd buy it 100%. The whole if you take a and minus b and times it by c analysis is where you lose me and dare I say everyone else. Like all your other sub gun PODs, if they all pay off, you'll be killing it. Good luck with that.
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    Post by RandomSil Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:20 pm

    Whats the Brimson hype. I love Brimson as a player and havr been on board with him since he started, but starting price of 50 he has to be consistent Tedesco levels.
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    Post by Finch Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:22 pm

    Jumping Marlin wrote:With thanks to Milch's spreadsheet and MTBs data, here's my current pre TLT take on Hookers.

    Projected scores are my estimates.  The players are listed in order of points / cash upside based on that.

    The column "risk" is a my current take on certainty - eg job security, injury, new coach etc.

    [And duals who have HOK listed as their second position are excluded].

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    Post by mattnz Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:23 pm

    Mulvy wrote:

    Remember how many trades were wasted on centre last year? $150k per centre trade adds up to lots. So if you said to me, Mulvy, I'm picking Cotric because he's got good job security and a lack of injury history and I couldn't be arsed wasting all that money and trades in the wasteland centre position and I've got a good gut feeling about the guy, I'd buy it 100%.  The whole if you take a and minus b and times it by c analysis is where you lose me and dare I say everyone else. Like all your other sub gun PODs, if they all pay off, you'll be killing it. Good luck with that.
    Job security and injury history are definitely part of it, but only worthwhile if also outperforming their cost. The funny analysis last season was that Darius Boyd would have been one of the very best centers to have started with, for those reasons.
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    Post by Jumping Marlin Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:27 pm

    mattnz wrote:
    Job security and injury history are definitely part of it, but only worthwhile if also outperforming their cost. The funny analysis last season was that Darius Boyd would have been one of the very best centers to have started with, for those reasons.

    If I’d had Darius I’d have done a heck of a lot better last year.

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