NRL Fantasy 2021 Part 35 - Cheers, Slug

StormTrooper96 wrote:2019 (Payne Haas)
Everyone: "Holy fuck how has someone averaged 67.8 for the whole year"

2020 (Nathan Cleary)
Everyone: "Holy fuck how has someone averaged 73.3 for the whole year"

2021 (Nathan Cleary)
Nathan Cleary: "Hold my chin!" - 97.8 average

2016 (Cameron Smith)
Everyone: "Holy fuck how has someone averaged 66.6 for the whole year"

FalconSloth wrote:If there is higher scoring across the round does that mean

a) player that get higher than their BE go up more and players that get below their BE drop more
b) player that get higher than their BE go up more and players that get below their BE drop less
c) player that get higher than their BE go up less and players that get below their BE drop more
d) player that get higher than their BE go up less and players that get below their BE drop less

C

Players can even score higher than their BE and go down in price if the scoring is higher than expected

my tv broke wrote:Momo looking at a suspension

Paul Momirovski Paw prints PEN
Grade 2 Dangerous Contact (head/neck) on Tom Dearden
Base penalty 300pts
Guilty / no contest = 300 points (3 matches)
Guilty - early plea = 225 points (2 matches)

Seems harsh but missed the replay.

multiple.scoregasms wrote:

C

Players can even score higher than their BE and go down in price if the scoring is higher than expected

So if I want to gap between Haas and Riki to close more I would want a highscoring round because Haas scored a lot lower than his BE than Riki scored higher

wolfking wrote:

Seems harsh but missed the replay.

It is harsh. Initial contact was shoulder which slid up and then he made contact with the head. Would've been happy with 1 week, two weeks minimum is overboard.

Nathan Cleary would need to average less than 46 for the rest of the year to not exceed last years average

FalconSloth wrote:
What's the price rise and BE equation?

It's stickied in the fantasy section under fantasy resources. Post no 4 and 5 by the great one.

https://www.nrlfantasyfanatics.com/t128-fantasy-resources

FalconSloth wrote:
So if I want to gap between Haas and Riki to close more I would want a highscoring round because Haas scored a lot lower than his BE than Riki scored higher

The proportions should stay the same since when the magic number changes so does the break evens for everyone

Haas scored ~19 under his breakeven with Riki scoring ~4 points over his. If it was a higher scoring round and true breakevens for everyone moved 5 points Riki would be 1 point under his and Haas 24 under his. Price change for each point under break even stays pretty much in line with magic number so this won't change.

Basically the difference between them is locked in,while the dollar figures may change

The discussion about scoring and 1-on-1 tackling is interesting and reminds me a bit of debates about PPR scoring in NFL fantasy. Basically, whether or not you get a point for catching a pass, something that has a wide range of value to a REAL team in a game (ie. a short pass for negative yardage still gets you a point). Super flex is another example, where you can play two quarterbacks (not a thing in real NFL) but raises the value of quarterbacks in fantasy to be equal to their real life value

My only takeaway is that the value of the play to the team cannot be the strict measuring point for how many points should be given. The game really has to be mostly based around individual performance (and this will naturally overlap with value to the team in real life), but it is also a balancing act to make all positions interesting and valuable. CTR being a sad wasteland year after year is a reflection of fantasy scoring, not the NRL

StormTrooper96 wrote:Nathan Cleary would need to average less than 46 for the rest of the year to not exceed last years average

Who won our Haas avatar bet mate?

multiple.scoregasms wrote:

The proportions should stay the same since when the magic number changes so does the break evens for everyone

Haas scored ~19 under his breakeven with Riki scoring ~4 points over his. If it was a higher scoring round and true breakevens for everyone moved 5 points Riki would be 1 point under his and Haas 24 under his. Price change for each point under break even stays pretty much in line with magic number so this won't change.

Basically the difference between them is locked in,while the dollar figures may change

Yeah it's all relative between players. I guess where high or low scoring rounds might have more of an effect is on the relative value of cash in the bank. And by extension, the value tied up in red dots whose price doesn't change.

Liverpool_Bulldog wrote:

Who won our Haas avatar bet mate?

I forgot about that!! Pretty sure I did. I will scour the web today to find a fitting reward

Let's set the penalty at a week?

StormTrooper96 wrote:

I forgot about that!! Pretty sure I did. I will scour the web today to find a fitting reward

Let's set the penalty at a week?

Sweet as mate. Yeah I think you had under 60 yeah.
1 week is acceptable

my tv broke wrote:Momo looking at a suspension

Could be interesting as I noticed a lot of the top teams are running Momo and someone else without cover

On the big increase in scores over the last couple of years I've am convinced that they're trying to turn fantasy into supercoach to attract new players. I've always preferred fantasy because it was more difficult to play & you had to earn your points so you had to do your research which was the fun part for me. Previously cracking 900 was a great effort but now it seems 1050+ is the new 900.

What the hell! That’s harsh on Momo.

Fuck this not centres again! I am a Momo, Jet and Niu owner only 10k spare this is bad, very bad!

White Lightning wrote:On the big increase in scores over the last couple of years I've am convinced that they're trying to turn fantasy into supercoach to attract new players. I've always preferred fantasy because it was more difficult to play & you had to earn your points so you had to do your research which was the fun part for me. Previously cracking 900 was a great effort but now it seems 1050+ is the new 900.

This is a great point. I guess keeping the squad sizes at 21 still keeps it a little more competitive as I am sure a lot of people would have started with guys like Blore, Simpkin, Walker, Hola, etc... Knowing these blokes will find their way into a starting spot at some point this year.

my tv broke wrote:Momo looking at a suspension

Paul Momirovski Paw prints PEN
Grade 2 Dangerous Contact (head/neck) on Tom Dearden
Base penalty 300pts
Guilty / no contest = 300 points (3 matches)
Guilty - early plea = 225 points (2 matches)

Is no contest just accepting the full freight points so you don't have carryover?

Rabbits21 wrote:What the hell! That’s harsh on Momo.

Fuck this not centres again! I am a Momo, Jet and Niu owner only 10k spare this is bad, very bad!

So you broke him!! Grrrrr

Will be an interesting development to keep an eye on

Also David Klemmer with 145 tackles so far this year and 1 missed. Crazy ratio

According to fox sports lab that is