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    NRL Fantasy 2021 Part 66 - The quest for correct stats

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    Post by ytsb Mon Jun 14, 2021 11:27 am

    At risk of labouring the point here, but Crichton cops a grade two charge and misses Origin for barely touching Kelly and pulling out as soon as he saw he didn't have the ball, providing decent evidence at the judiciary, whereas Munster chucks a hissy fit and kicks two people in four days, and IPap drops a knee on someone's head and they get fines?

    Then there's the Sivo vs. Hetherington vs. Proctor discrepancy for similar incidents this week as well.

    NRL management has been taking the piss this season. Changing rules mid-season impacts the validity of the whole competition, never mind the intra-round discrepancy in how each game is refereeed
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    Post by filthridden Mon Jun 14, 2021 11:32 am

    Honeysett wrote:Accidentally hit someone high when trying to make a tackle, potential to miss weeks. Kick 2 different guys in two different games or knee someone in the head and pay what amounts to a coffee on their salary. Makes sense.

    To be fair, in isolation - there was nothing in Munster's kick on RTS. It was barely a kick. It's bad because the guy keeps doing the same fucking thing and hasn't learnt.
    Should cop a week for being a moron.

    There's also an argument that Ipap's knee was accidental... but that's the thing - it's an argument. Charge him and let him argue his point at the judiciary.
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    Post by Revraiser Mon Jun 14, 2021 11:33 am

    AL wrote:

    affraid

    Edit: no one has less than this surely? Will you still post in 3 weeks when they are all gone?

    I will have angered the 'bricks n mortar' of the fantasy community by revealing this!

    Don't fret, my insight and advice will continue even if I fall face flat into the wrong bedroom.

    I am all for it though, I mean no regrets on the trade path. It is 100% the reason I have been able to make a run from 11,775 to 1400's now. As well as holding particular players that some were starting to lose patience with (Moses/Fog)

    I've always openly said i'd much rather be proactive over reactive in the fantasy game. Rather stumble having a crack over ending with extra trades and a bunch of 'what if's' next week etc.


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    Post by Guest Mon Jun 14, 2021 11:38 am

    Is this week a 4 trade week?
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    Post by mrbrownstone Mon Jun 14, 2021 11:41 am

    Seems very lenient, but I'll take it.
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    Post by robelgordo Mon Jun 14, 2021 11:42 am

    Revraiser wrote:

    I will have angered the 'bricks n mortar' of the fantasy community by revealing this!

    Don't fret, my insight and advice will continue even if I fall face flat into the wrong bedroom.

    I am all for it though, I mean no regrets on the trade path. It is 100% the reason I have been able to make a run from 11,775 to 1400's now.

    I've always openly said i'd much rather be proactive over reactive in the fantasy game. Rather stumble having a crack over ending with extra trades and a bunch of 'what if's' next week etc.

    Good luck to you mate, awesome charge and you’re in a good spot.

    I think you need to go hard or conserve, that way you’re either near the front and in a position to hold on with some luck, or you have lots of trades to come home strong. Last year o went hard. This year I tried conserving but stuffed up my starting team and have ended up somewhere in the middle in no mans land Sad.
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    Post by Drifterspence Mon Jun 14, 2021 11:44 am

    Thoughts on Hynes to Simonsson then Simonsson to Pappy after dropping cash.

    Hear me out.

    Hynes plays rd 15 at 60 points and rd 16 and 18 at 18 points from the bench = 96 points and will be around $650K (best guess due to low scores)

    Simonsson 4 weeks lets say 40 average = 160 points and will be around $500k (best guess)

    If pappy plays rd 16 and 18 and gets 60 he will lose like $70k (best guess)

    So if I make the trade It will be Hynes ($740k) to Simmonson ($390k), then at round 19 Simmonson ($500k) to Pappy ($735k) banks $115k, and gets me an extra 64 points.

    Also, Dragons cannot defend Fullbacks.

    Thoughts?
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    Post by Chewie Mon Jun 14, 2021 11:48 am

    Drifterspence wrote:Thoughts on Hynes to Simonsson then Simonsson to Pappy after dropping cash.

    Hear me out.

    Hynes plays rd 15 at 60 points and rd 16 and 18 at 18 points from the bench = 96 points and will be around $650K (best guess due to low scores)

    Simonsson 4 weeks lets say 40 average = 160 points and will be around $500k (best guess)

    If pappy plays rd 16 and 18 and gets 60 he will lose like $70k (best guess)

    So if I make the trade It will be Hynes ($740k) to Simmonson ($390k), then at round 19 Simmonson ($500k) to Pappy ($735k) banks $115k, and gets me an extra 64 points.

    Also, Dragons cannot defend Fullbacks.

    Thoughts?
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    Post by Honey Badger Mon Jun 14, 2021 11:52 am

    Drifterspence wrote:Thoughts on Hynes to Simonsson then Simonsson to Pappy after dropping cash.

    Hear me out.

    Hynes plays rd 15 at 60 points and rd 16 and 18 at 18 points from the bench = 96 points and will be around $650K (best guess due to low scores)

    Simonsson 4 weeks lets say 40 average = 160 points and will be around $500k (best guess)

    If pappy plays rd 16 and 18 and gets 60 he will lose like $70k (best guess)

    So if I make the trade It will be Hynes ($740k) to Simmonson ($390k), then at round 19 Simmonson ($500k) to Pappy ($735k) banks $115k, and gets me an extra 64 points.

    Also, Dragons cannot defend Fullbacks.

    Thoughts?

    I thought a straight swap Hynes to Papy would be the go
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    Post by Moanaman Mon Jun 14, 2021 11:54 am

    Drifterspence wrote:Thoughts?

    In theory it's a good trade but the Fantasy Gods never work that way.
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    Post by Drifterspence Mon Jun 14, 2021 11:55 am

    Honey Badger wrote:

    I thought a straight swap Hynes to Papy would be the go

    Pap has a 103 BE which concerns me, and also concerned they might take minutes of Pap to start with to ease him back, I mean with Hynes playing so well why wouldnt you
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    Post by TheWeapon Mon Jun 14, 2021 11:56 am

    Revraiser wrote:

    I will have angered the 'bricks n mortar' of the fantasy community by revealing this!

    Don't fret, my insight and advice will continue even if I fall face flat into the wrong bedroom.

    I am all for it though, I mean no regrets on the trade path. It is 100% the reason I have been able to make a run from 11,775 to 1400's now. As well as holding particular players that some were starting to lose patience with (Moses/Fog)

    I've always openly said i'd much rather be proactive over reactive in the fantasy game. Rather stumble having a crack over ending with extra trades and a bunch of 'what if's' next week etc.

    Totally agree mate. The year I almost won, I think I had about 5 trades left post-origin (but my team was pretty spot on) and just hoped for some luck on the injury front
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    Post by Honey Badger Mon Jun 14, 2021 12:03 pm

    Drifterspence wrote:

    Pap has a 103 BE which concerns me, and also concerned they might take minutes of Pap to start with to ease him back, I mean with Hynes playing so well why wouldnt you

    True. Your only danger is if Simmonson has a low score for whatever reason and doesn't make enough cash in the time you need
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    Post by Liverpool_Bulldog Mon Jun 14, 2021 12:05 pm

    Drifterspence wrote:

    Pap has a 103 BE which concerns me, and also concerned they might take minutes of Pap to start with to ease him back, I mean with Hynes playing so well why wouldnt you
    Do you still own Pappy?

    Oh you meant, all good
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    Post by Mulvy Mon Jun 14, 2021 12:08 pm

    Honey Badger wrote:

    I thought a straight swap Hynes to Papy would be the go

    Pappy has a break even of 104. I'll likely give him a game or two to drop cash before getting him (assuming I get him). I'll probably trade Hynes to a gun in another position before getting Pappy via someone else. And in the mean time play Teddy, Walsh and either Laurie/Simmo (although probably selling Laurie this week), or half thinking of getting RTS also.
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    Post by mrbrownstone Mon Jun 14, 2021 12:13 pm

    Didn't watch yesterday's game - did AFB look like being a pick up, or a few weeks to get back up to speed?

    He should drop to around 590k with that with a high break even still, will be hard to ignore once he's bottomed out.
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    Post by Mulvy Mon Jun 14, 2021 12:17 pm

    Drifterspence wrote:Thoughts on Hynes to Simonsson then Simonsson to Pappy after dropping cash.

    Hear me out.

    Hynes plays rd 15 at 60 points and rd 16 and 18 at 18 points from the bench = 96 points and will be around $650K (best guess due to low scores)

    Simonsson 4 weeks lets say 40 average = 160 points and will be around $500k (best guess)

    If pappy plays rd 16 and 18 and gets 60 he will lose like $70k (best guess)

    So if I make the trade It will be Hynes ($740k) to Simmonson ($390k), then at round 19 Simmonson ($500k) to Pappy ($735k) banks $115k, and gets me an extra 64 points.

    Also, Dragons cannot defend Fullbacks.

    Thoughts?

    Mulvy wrote:

    Pappy has a break even of 104. I'll likely give him a game or two to drop cash before getting him (assuming I get him). I'll probably trade Hynes to a gun in another position before getting Pappy via someone else. And in the mean time play Teddy, Walsh and either Laurie/Simmo (although probably selling Laurie this week), or half thinking of getting RTS also.

    I guess what I'm doing is similar to you except I intend to keep Simmo as my back up WFB. But I don't mind your idea. People often talk about sideways trading over origin for extra points. If you can arrange those sideways trades so they make you 100k in the process I'm all for it. Just need to hope the fantasy gods let the plan run smoothly.
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    Post by StormTrooper96 Mon Jun 14, 2021 12:20 pm

    RTS is sub 600K! Is Walsh expected to go into the halves now CHT season likely over? RTS could be a steal!

    Also when is next DPP update? Hope if this happens he has time to get dpp


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    Post by Drifterspence Mon Jun 14, 2021 12:21 pm

    Mulvy wrote:



    I guess what I'm doing is similar to you except I intend to keep Simmo as my back up WFB. But I don't mind your idea. People often talk about sideways trading over origin for extra points. If you can arrange those sideways trades so they make you 100k in the process I'm all for it. Just need to hope the fantasy gods let the plan run smoothly.

    Im doing it - Cheers
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    Post by Liverpool_Bulldog Mon Jun 14, 2021 12:24 pm

    StormTrooper96 wrote:RTS is sub 600K! Is Walsh expected to go into the halves now CHT season likely over? RTS could be a steal!

    Also when is next DPP update? Hope if this happens he has time to get dpp
    That’s the big hope.

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